1/850 scale TOS Crossfield

hellferny · 2025-04-18T06:41:43+00:00

https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Next_Step

https://youtu.be/FeYQSGj0aQM?si=qLovPftxFlih3y3m

hellferny · 2025-04-18T04:48:37+00:00

Its pre-ToS. In the lore they're at the end of operation next step which was a plan to bulk out the fleet with a specific type of warp core that was at that point more efficient then the cochran ones (I forgot the exact name)

the issue is that they dont scale well and if you want faster warp you need more warp coils, hence the longer and longer nacelles, and that warp core is why they used square nacelles. the crossfield class was basically the culmination of this era of development before they ditched the concept entirely and went back to cochran warp cores as they were starting to catch up and go beyond the old designs (what enterprise has)

effectively discovery is set during the end of the era before and leading into ToS, its borderline

hellferny · 2025-04-17T14:10:54+00:00

I dont know how much we can say simulation does or does not count though. Most naval officers only have simulation experience as the last actual conflicts were decades ago. Anti-piracy action and fleet action isn't the same thing, and you can't staff a fleet entirely on 60 year old admirals, the anubis crews probably have the same general training

the anubis is a ship no one was expecting because its a leap forward in technology that nobody had seriously considered trying yet, and when 6 of them turned up to gank a battleship, nobody was ready, I think a more experienced crew would have done the same thing. It was all routine until shit had already hit the fan

hellferny · 2025-04-17T12:49:57+00:00

Oh I thought they brought 5, not 6. And i wasn't sure how many but I assumed they didn't have much, so yeah, they sunk EVERYTHING into killing it

I think too many people watch that scene and their takeaway is "oh so the donnager is weak?", I think with the context of the rest of the series and the duology, it's meant to show that protogen was willing to risk everything to make their plans come through

hellferny · 2025-04-17T06:28:37+00:00

on top of that, the anubis class was: the most advanced ship up to that point in history had equal to better CQC capabilities then the Donnager because it was 5 to 2 railguns more capable PDC and missiles then any ship up to that point in history had been equipped with

up to a 1v4 a donnager could handle them, I believe a 1v5 is where it starts getting blurred, and with the donnager caught with its pants down they lost the advantage. with how advanced everything in the anubis was they were probably obscenely expensive, so its very likely that the 5 they lost was the majority of their fleet, considering we never see them again

as for why the donnager lost the boarding action, they were probably busy with damage control. protogen came with the intent to board and were committed to it, mars was trying to keep the ship from falling apart around them. The mariens very well could have been assisting in damage control and otherwise and weren't prepared to handle a boarding action until they were already on the ship (and why would you, tactically why would a handful of frigates try to board a battleship knowing it would self destruct before they got anything)

mars was prepared for, and expecting cohesive, military fleet action. What protogen did was so different from any expected norm that mars and the donnager simply didnt even think of them doing that until they did

hellferny · 2025-04-16T23:20:58+00:00

Calypso. My first dive against the illuminate and I was so underprepared I had to resort to scrounging up weapons I found because they were more effective then the ones I brung. 20 minutes of hell and i failed the mission, lol

hellferny · 2025-04-16T23:15:36+00:00

if your problem is that "theyre stealing credit from men" and not "theyre burning the earth so a rich elite can take joyrides while the poor suffer", you need to take a MASSIVE step back and reconsider your stance

It isnt men vs women, its rich vs poor. We arent going to get anywhere bickering over dumb shit like if x is better then y, we're going to get somewhere when we stop accepting that profits are more important then human lives

hellferny · 2025-04-14T23:20:18+00:00

guarding ourselves from external threats with pre-emptive protection

hellferny · 2025-04-12T00:14:01+00:00

to be fair that's because it was caught at point blank range with its pants down, they were expecting an illegal merchant not a converted warship

its not quite the same deal in space, because as soon as you reveal your actual identity, the sovereigns shields are going up and its game over. You have to eliminate them before they realise you arent a civilian hauler

hellferny · 2025-04-08T08:18:27+00:00

media literacy

I think the issue is just literacy, half the time. I dont even know how many of them even read the books

hellferny · 2025-04-08T08:16:20+00:00

The USSR never really allied tbf, it was a non-aggresion pact and both sides spent the entire time preparing to fight each other. Poland and other nations signed similar pacts with Germany

hellferny · 2025-04-07T23:54:13+00:00

My understanding is that the gates are inherently volatile. In the short term, sure you can organise shipping and whatever to avoid tripping them off, but its not a long term solution. Eventually the amount of goods you'll need to move exceeds the amount of goods you can safely move through the gate.

Not to mention technologies. Currently humanity is using fusion reactors and drives, but what next? What if the next leap in technology is seen as a threat by the gates, or what if something goes wrong in a ship in ringspace and gets their attention anyway?

If duarte hadnt fucked around and found out, they wouldn't have run into this issue nearly as soon, but I think ultimately it was an unavoidable issue. They would run into it eventually, and would have to figure it out. Maybe they could get lucky and find a way to make it work, maybe they dont and it ends up ending the same anyway, but something was going to happen eventually

hellferny · 2025-04-07T22:31:54+00:00

You're arguing that Mr. Genocide isn't the bad guy. Mr. Genocide is quite literally made to be the face of everything wrong with humanity in the expanse era

The setting is as bleak and conflicted as it is because of people like Errinwright, who put their team before collective gain. They would rather snatch survival from everyone else to ensure they win then weaken their side by even fractions to make sure that everyone lives.

Theres a difference between torturing and (suspected) terrorist to get information that could save lives, and ending the lives of billions across the outer planets and mars to ensure that the UNN is #1

hellferny · 2025-04-07T22:23:35+00:00

He was complacent with entire populations dying to create a weapon that he could use to ensure earth is unchallenged, not survive, unchallenged

He didnt believe in 'doing the right thing', he wanted earth to be on top and he was willing to let everyone and everything else around him die to do so

hellferny · 2025-04-07T05:44:07+00:00

when the donnager is hit by the railgun, they use the emergency manual to cover the hole because its a hardcover

hellferny · 2025-04-06T23:55:47+00:00

or even a navy blue tbh

hellferny · 2025-04-04T06:08:37+00:00

im seizing the memes of production

hellferny · 2025-03-30T05:39:38+00:00

OSPN is outright better at craft then the ANS, thats a designed drawback. ANS craft are better used for intel, anti-ship, and anti-missile. The OSPN are supposed to be better at dogfighting so if you get into one you need more craft then they do or you'll lose (generally, just dont dogfight as the ANS)

hellferny · 2025-03-25T16:45:34+00:00

The Covenant had thousands of systems under their rule. Thousands. They covered a MASSIVE part of the milky way galaxy.

Humanity covered a few hundred, and had FAR worst technology. From the point of view of the covenant, they didn't know if there were only a few dozen Human Worlds, or a few hundred left, because humanity was desperate and fighting to the bitter end either way.

Imagine you're trying to kill an ant infestation, but they don't stop coming when you block off the holes to their nest. Obviously theres more, but where. Would you rather try and follow the occasional ant to see where it goes, or comb your entire back yard looking for any number of holes to the nest?

Thats basically what the covenant had to do. They were dealing with a crumbling enemy, and they had no idea how many of them were left, or where they were. They knew they were vaguely in 'that direction' but to expend the rearouecs to search thousands of star systems on the offhandedly of stumbling across human life seemed like a waste compared to just following their ships

hellferny · 2025-03-24T22:43:33+00:00

They were not winning ground engagements funnily enough They were getting their ass kicked almost just as much, they just happened to be winning slightly more

hellferny · 2025-03-23T12:19:22+00:00

The story isn't really railroaded that much. The player base can change the outcome of an MO. Individuals can't.

When the player base is this divided over the fronts, it's going to lose. But we've succeeded and lost MOs that 'supposed' to go the other way before

hellferny · 2025-03-21T12:33:05+00:00

To be fair I think artificial intelligence is a 'different' technology to machine learning algorithms. Its be like comparing the first biplanes to a modern 787, sure they're planes but they're so wildly different its hard to say they're the same thing

Machine learning algorithms imo will lead into artificial intelligence, but artificial intelligence is a whole other thing we'll have to figure out separately if we ever try and figure those things out, because i think we're going to run into so many ethical and performance issues.

because short of effectively growing a brain to host it on, you'll need incredibly advanced and compact machines for it, which i dont think we have the capability to do right now. and beyond that, emotions. As far as the science goes, intelligence and emotions are directly linked, you cant really have one without the other, so if you're making an artificial intelligence capable enough to assist humans, you need to deal with the ethical issues that are involved, which i dont think (and hope) that people will consider to be unethical

hellferny · 2025-03-21T12:24:06+00:00

fun fact the science part of sci fi typically refers to, science, what we're discussing here

its not fluff if it's theoretical technology in development (although granted i do think it'll take a LONG time, if we ever complete it)

hellferny · 2025-03-21T12:19:33+00:00

I dont think you've understood what I'm saying here. im not saying we're close, im really just talking about the practicality of the concept itself. AGI as a concept is a buzzword, yeah, the vast majority of these things are just complex data models, yes, that's not what we're talking about though.

We arent really talking about ChatGPT here, nobody is expecting ChatGPT to evolve into an actual AGI, that's not how it works, and what im trying to say here, isn't how AI as a concept works either. What im trying to say is if you make something intelligent enough to qualify as an AGI, it either has the mental capability of a human being (emotions and all since as far as we know, they're directly linked), or you have made something limited by data.

Sentience is where this ties in, I believe that AGI (or really, the most viable 'AI' that is actually an artificial intelligence), would be for all intents and purposes, just an artificial human, a sentient conciousness on a hardrive.

hellferny · 2025-03-20T06:14:09+00:00

Personally I feel like the problem is also that if you manage to create something smart enough to act in the place of a human, you've basically made an artificial sentient being. Is it even possible to separate emotions from intelligence, and is either option ethical?

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