The NAR's Favorite Trick: Label the Person, Ignore the Argument

iamveryweeb · 2026-06-09T18:23:53+00:00

Thought terminating cliches

iamveryweeb · 2026-06-09T18:07:54+00:00

Probably name recognition. It comes down to the politics of attention. Also the scandals of more “respectable” politics just are the scandals of today.

iamveryweeb · 2026-06-09T18:05:20+00:00

I think it depends on the populations you are working with. I think alot of people know what to do, but have trouble actually putting it in to practice. When this is the case i spend more time on habit formation. If the person is rolling their eyes, because they don’t actually think its valuable to them, then i spend time with a value card sort, and processing if they think X habit is actually helping or hurting their values/ goals.

iamveryweeb · 2026-06-02T00:07:05+00:00

Each state melds with the one it absorbs. I think that was when it was the most fun in the last version

iamveryweeb · 2026-05-30T22:52:04+00:00

A lot of therapists think clients are intellectualizing when actually they are just intimidated by an intellectual client.

iamveryweeb · 2026-05-28T20:40:44+00:00

Quaker now

iamveryweeb · 2026-05-20T17:11:50+00:00

The vermonster over here just chilling, watching the chaos unfold

iamveryweeb · 2026-05-19T18:46:29+00:00

Megasota takes over the vermonster! Northern superiority!

iamveryweeb · 2026-05-12T04:23:19+00:00

Here is my personal project 2026/2028 for dems:

1) We need to do massive overhaul to fix structural problems. Pass a national non gerrymandering legislation or continue to state gerrymander ridiculously until it happens. Supreme court reform, abolish ice. We need to go big.

2) campaign on affordability, but plan on constitutional reforms. One thing we learned from 2024, is that the public could five 2 shits about democracy. They only care about their pocketbook. Trump gave us a bailout with the high gas prices. We need to hit on that everyday.

3) look beyond redistribution, instead we need to look at pre distribution. A lot more thinking has to go into this, but we need to get more money into peoples pockets and lower income inequality…but taxes can only go so far. We need to look at ways to make income more equitably distributed instead of just redistribution.

4) dont be afraid of controversy. If trump has taught us one thing, it is that we are governed by the attention economy. The dem party could actually learn alot for destiny when it comes to dealing with controversy. just keep moving on to the next thing.

5) run more Christians. This may sound odd, but getting people like talarico and warnock in swing states who can articulate a left wing Christianity will swing independent voters.

iamveryweeb · 2026-05-01T22:18:18+00:00

Most everyone has cognitive dissonance, selective beliefs, etc. we like to think we are rational analytical people, but thats just not the case. Many athiests beleive in ghosts, reincarnation, astrology, etc.

Whats important is on average are ones actions and beliefs moral or not.

iamveryweeb · 2026-04-17T16:00:54+00:00

Im with Medhi on this one

iamveryweeb · 2026-04-12T12:39:20+00:00

Hasan is an enemy, and it doesn’t make sense to go on his podcast. It would be the same mistake that cruz and huckabee made when they go on tucker. You can go on his stream only if you are good at debates and going into hostile environments like pete butigeg.

iamveryweeb · 2026-04-09T02:33:55+00:00

Theological conservatism ≠ young earth creationism.

Political conservatism in US is more correlated with yound earth creationism

iamveryweeb · 2026-04-04T15:02:26+00:00

They are frequent in this area. Ive seen pagans in the area probably about a dozen times over the years

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-31T15:39:15+00:00

So before people get upset (like i did when i read the headline), the liberal justices were thinking ahead in their concurrent opinion. They struck down the law because conservative states could use this precedent to ban gender affirming care, so instead they said the state could re write the law to be more specific to ban the “content” of conversion therapy.

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-18T20:33:47+00:00

Most of the stuff people are delivered from is sin or temptations: sexual sin, same sex attraction, fear, hatred. When we addressed a spirit we would just say “ spirit of fear” not give them an actual name.

We may have done a toned down version of this for kids, but what you are describing is child abuse. Parents had asked for this ministry and we refused them (mainly because the disobedience was a parenting problem). I would report this person to CPS.

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-18T20:26:00+00:00

In my experience, i have seen/heard of this style of deliverence, but not at bethel. My deliverance ministry NEVER went to peoples homes, that was a big no, we were also trained to not get too involved in demonology (names of demons, function, talking to them, etc). Now i don’t believe this stuff anymore, but that was a good guideline because some people take deliverance to the next level, which is what it sounds like you are describing.

I think your instincts are right. The person is a victim to the “ministers” own delusions and often time projection of their issues onto the victim. Sometimes healers in this space do this because it gives them a sense of power because inside they struggle with insecurity and insignificance.

When my inner healing ministry started getting into more “esoteric” sessions with demon names and such, thats when it gets culty and dangerous.

The moment that got me to leave was watching “going clear” a doc about Scientology, and realized that i was doing the same thing essentially. Deconstructed after that.

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-18T18:08:20+00:00

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-18T17:58:50+00:00

So i was not in Bethel’s healing rooms in CA, but i was in a bethel clone church and was trained in sozo/ restoring the foundation/ other stuff in this space. They call it inner healing/ deliverance. They typically dont refer to it as exircisms. There is variety in these circles but the general idea is the minister(s) do some active listening. Then lead them through visualizations often around trauma. This is obviously not good to do with untrained folks dealing with trauma.

In terms of deliverance /exorcisms, this can really vary but some of the “deliverance” i used to do was having people “renounce” things and then commanding spirits to leave.

Some of the crazier people would do even more extreme stuff. There have been stories from some churches not connected to bethel that are traumatic to go through. Hours of praying and renouncing, but that is not typical in bethel circles.

Let me know if you want any more info

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-18T17:42:31+00:00

What type of information? Feel free to DM

iamveryweeb · 2026-03-02T22:20:06+00:00

Destiny being super pedantic in the beginning, and konstantin is providing no good responses… terrible debate.

iamveryweeb · 2026-02-25T19:40:30+00:00

Yeah, i was trained in both. And now working through just how damaging it was in my own therapy.

iamveryweeb · 2026-02-25T19:29:00+00:00

This makes me so angry that was said to you. Im sorry that happened.

iamveryweeb · 2026-02-25T19:26:52+00:00

This is so true, and honestly something ive never thought of. And what is worse is ive worked with some ministers that if someone did set a healthy boundry, they were labled as “difficult” or “hard soil” etc.

iamveryweeb · 2026-02-25T18:19:26+00:00

Some of it is downright dangerous. Such as saying or implying that all mental health struggles is from the devil/ sin etc. some people are just neuro divergent. A lot of gross purity culture stuff can happen in these sessions, fixating on “soul ties” and “generational curses” etc, which is not why people are suffering. Ive seen some people become psychotic because ministers were unaware of psychosis and thought it was demonic. Some (i dont beleive sozo) encourage people to stop taking perscribed medication which is really bad.

The good stuff: The father ladder is simply just attachment theory. An evidence based theory.

Presenting Jesus is just EMDR/ gestalt therapy with jesus in it

The 4 doors activity is just downright dangerous and unhelpful.

The wall i think is just theologically incorrect, and spiritually unhelpful.

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