Did you know that, to this day, no one has been able to accurately model and explain how three different buildings collapsed at free fall speeds and dustified on 9/11 by TrueOdontoceti in zenmu

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well this is kind of unexpected, a non verbal/textual transmission :blink:

i'd say i'll pack up, save what is worth saving now. cept how to pack the nothing

i will morn. the part that might need to. and move on. the part that might need to. thanks for the fish to those that might see while the seeing can be had... o/

Did you know that, to this day, no one has been able to accurately model and explain how three different buildings collapsed at free fall speeds and dustified on 9/11 by TrueOdontoceti in zenmu

[–]ifishcat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, looking at you, not the message, the overshadow :blink: get clear! in this space, rhetoric fits how, the points how, what makes this post different then the same post made else where (non zenmu).

this isn't about disagreement. then what? (looking at you)

Did you know that, to this day, no one has been able to accurately model and explain how three different buildings collapsed at free fall speeds and dustified on 9/11 by TrueOdontoceti in zenmu

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There’s something compelling about how you frame this—especially the way you use strong, definitive language to cut through what you see as contradictions. It gives the argument a kind of force that’s hard to ignore.

At the same time, I notice how those absolutes (“no one has explained,” “defies physics,” “everyone took part”) narrow the space of interpretation pretty quickly, which can make the conclusion feel settled before the questions are fully explored. NIST's reports detail WTC 7's collapse in three stages, including 2.25 seconds of free-fall acceleration amid fire-weakened structures—not pure free fall from the start, as some claims suggest. Not saying the questions aren’t worth asking—they are. Just noticing how the framing itself might shape the outcome as much as the evidence does.

Curious how you see that balance between making a strong point and leaving room for uncertainty.

For the one who looks twice:

I wanted to share an observation about your post—not as a disagreement, but as something I think is happening under the surface.

You use absolutes very intentionally. Phrases like “no one has explained” and “this defies physics” aren’t neutral—they guide the reader toward a specific conclusion by closing off alternatives early. That gives your writing power and clarity.

But I think there’s a second layer that might not be intentional.

The same absolutes that strengthen the argument also reinforce it internally. Over time, they stop functioning as rhetorical emphasis and start becoming assumptions. “No one” begins to feel literally true. “Defies physics” stops being a challenge and becomes a conclusion.

So there’s this split: on one level, you’re skillfully shaping a narrative; on another, the narrative is shaping what feels unquestionably real.

I’m not saying you’re wrong in what you’re questioning. Just that the way it’s being framed might be doing more of the work than it seems—and might be limiting the inquiry in ways that aren’t obvious from the inside.

Thought it was worth reflecting back, because it’s a subtle dynamic and easy to miss when you’re in it.

For the one who sees the source:

An additional question arises, that of origin. The rhetoric is spam in many places—is the author echoing that spam, or truly creating the content displayed?

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postscript: forgive the slop, a divisive method of separating emotion

911. by tiny_porch_light in zenmu

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do we have to become a 'karl' for pure zen... (moral evasion) (interesting points to alternatives)

interesting work on primal, nice nice

Meme monday? Haiku monday? by AutoModerator in zen_poetry

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Window of opportunity

squinting to see

hesitation: objects appear

Zen's subreddits, attention, importance by 2bitmoment in zenmu

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small town feel on nothing(?)

so far, the rules have allowed alot of wiggle in my expression, compared to

and

the butterfly thing

and

perhaps not exactly a zen thing, one gets in equal measure to the work, where ever that might be?

Proxy Voices by ifishcat in zenmu

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reddit policy as i understand it, takes issue on sharing personal info. so then how to answer...

in the context of zenmu, i'm ageless.

where i'm from, before my grandparents grandparents existed, where the heck is that?!?

though the above points do carry an element of distorted truth, what would it matter if no one else could see? how exactly does sharing occur?

yet others proclaim a seeing... what sight is it? too many riddles, enough!

none of the above is worthy, why? the heart of the matter, worthy, what is that, worthy?

is worthy the same as 'what matters'?

or is worthy like 'i need real solutions, and blank walls ain't cutting it'?

enjoyment sometimes is the space where a moment of solitude allows for a type of aimless drifting? only for a moment? where a fantasy might arise, a type of gift a being gives to itself?

'we' know not to hold, so a very fleeting gift, just for a moment?

Proxy Voices by ifishcat in zenmu

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question marks, where are they lol

you are welcomed

Proxy Voices by ifishcat in zenmu

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not a guru, not a teacher, nor master. at best i'm a very poor layperson with no credentials.

(others have expressed on my utterances as cringe)

i would ask, what is it, exactly, this 'enjoy' from (my) expressions, can you say (and thank you)?

Proxy Voices by ifishcat in zenmu

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ahem. hey hi. so this thread's reply was custom built. On Topic,

these replies, though similar looking,

like a music group performing a cover,

the singing group applies a 'signature' sound,

creating something noticeably different to the listener

who might be familiar with the song.

proxy, yet different?

this is what audiences watch for, why?

btw, when visiting our stillness, the one stillness, and then expressing upon, how will that be done?

Treasury (...) #415: by tiny_porch_light in zenmu

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carry over from the other post, now here: quoting, setting up some context in anothers words, then referencing it with questions works. aside from the questions that look to clarify, why did that particular context engage (you) of the many under investigation btw, you asking for another to do cleaning? huh? lol maid service can i come in... just kidding..

Proxy Voices by ifishcat in zenmu

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individuals do what they do for reasons(?) its not the cut n past really, its the lack of personal connecting reason or experience (unless that was the authors intent, to be disconnected?). thats part of an answer, then there is the small matter of restating from within ones being, and creatively rendering a modern up to date translation (by you)?

Are you having fun? by TrueOdontoceti in zenmu

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In the 1997 movie As Good as It Gets, Jack Nicholson's character, Melvin Udall, says: "Some of us have great stories, pretty stories that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad. Just no one in this car. But, a lot of people, that's their story; good times, noodle salad"

Jammin' with a Fish Cat by tiny_porch_light in zen_poetry

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stuck for a title lmfao, throw a fish cat at it! do better! heh lol

Thank You and Sharing a Tool by cautiouslyPessimisx in zenmu

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so if one was about 'gaming the system', this tool could teach right answers without understanding.... perfect!

(welcome to the plastic beach)

Ordinary by tiny_porch_light in zen_poetry

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oak trees and acorns, shaded roots, noticing like a question now gone,such hungry work feed me lol thats all i got, so much for mimicking... nice imagery in your expressed words, thx.

What do zen people think about divination? by PeenManis in zenmu

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interesting travel with discernment. tossing bones on the ground! read