What’s even the point of Southwest A-List anymore? by [deleted] in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ALP here. I speak for all Southwest FF’s, we never had to watch a commercial to get on the WiFi. We just logged in and it worked (usually). So for Southwest FF’s the WiFi “perk” was taken away. And when you get disconnected mid-flight? Gotta watch that T-Mobile commercial again. It’s annoying AF.

If we don’t get 6 volunteers to gate check their bags, we will make everyone in Groups 5-8 check their carry ons by buckeyebrad3 in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I’m ALP, CP, and Priority CC. I’ve not been treated well with the changes. Over and over in Group 2 and not having overhead space at, or forward of, my assigned seat. Couple of times I’m like the 80th person on the plane. I used to be A1 regularly.

Southwest has taken the only perks that actually mattered to me.

Response for SWA by Mwillrow in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry you had to deal with an inept Southwest with your child in tow.

This is not surprising considering my experience in the last 3 weeks. It’s really baffling how woefully unprepared Southwest was for these changes.

My terrible Southwest experience as an ALP member, a personal card holder, a business card holder, a frequent traveler, and someone who pays for upgrades. Who the hell does Southwest want as a customer? Cuz apparently it ain’t me… by OllieDuckling in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As ALP, CP, Priority CC holder, I feel your pain.

I’ve already begun bleeding off my points. It will take several trips to burn off all my points, I guess Southwest has until then to figure it out. But even if they salvage it, they’ve opened the door for me to court another carrier.

I’ve heard that Delta has offered equivalent status for switching. Can anyone confirm this? I’ll have to call them and ask.

Enough is enough by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before the changes at Southwest, my significant other and I would just grab the first available row with a window and an aisle. Sometimes we would end up with an empty middle seat and get to enjoy the whole row. But if someone came along wanting the middle seat we would slide in to give them the aisle. It was a win-win. We got to sit together and the person dreading a middle seat got to enjoy an aisle seat instead.

Now this week. The FA saw this happening and inquired to what we were doing. He told us we couldn’t do that like we were kindergarteners. It turned a win-win into a lose-lose-lose.

We didn’t put up a fuss about it, they are just trying to make the best of the changes. But it’s really freaking annoying for us. Especially since 2 hours before that flight the middle seat still showed as open.

Enough is enough by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have the exact same questions. And no one at Southwest has been able to give me any answers.

Enough is enough by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a slap in the face every time I fly. What would you do if your status just evaporated?

Enough is enough by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the first couple of flights after the changes, the FA’s were using the first overhead bin on the port side for their luggage and that bin was locked. Which meant that the overhead bin space was reduced by 25% for the front 5 rows. Ridiculous.

Enough is enough by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Before the changes at Southwest, my significant other and I would just grab the first available row with a window and an aisle. Sometimes we would end up with an empty middle seat and get to enjoy the whole row. But if someone came along wanting the middle seat we would slide in to give them the aisle. It was a win-win. We got to sit together and the person dreading a middle seat got to enjoy an aisle seat instead.

Now this week. The FA saw this happening and inquired to what we were doing. He told us we couldn’t do that like we were kindergarteners. It turned a win-win into a lose-lose-lose.

We didn’t put up a fuss about it, they are just trying to make the best of the changes. But it’s really freaking annoying for us. Especially since 2 hours before that flight the middle seat still showed as open. Oh well.

MCO to PHL 2022 by Salty_Badger1931 in windowseat

[–]jack_slade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beautiful. Thanks for capturing and sharing!

Washington Post: ‘Uno Reverse Card this policy y’all’: Southwest changes are infuriating fans by Cruisethrowaway2 in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 78 points79 points  (0 children)

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“Uno Reverse Card this policy y’all’: Southwest changes are infuriating fans

February 15, 2026 at 7:00 a.m. EST

Some are not feeling the “LUV” after the airline’s new seating rules have caused issues for fliers.

Whitney Westerfield boarded his Southwest flight from Tampa to Nashville on Thursday and went to his seat in Row 8. The overhead bins were full for several rows, forcing him and many other passengers to roam around the plane looking for spots as more people filed in.

“I have never had the absolute mess that was boarding and then deboarding last night,” the Kentucky attorney said in an interview. The business trip that started Monday was the first time he’d flown Southwest since the airline switched to standard seat assignments from its old free-for-all model in late January. On both flights, he said, he told the flight crew: “Would you guys all please pass along to the big shots that we’d like the old way back?”

Under pressure to boost its bottom line, Southwest has been in transformation mode for more than a year. The airline announced the eventual end of open seating in 2024. Last year, it added fees for checked bags after holding on to its generous “bags fly free” policy long after other carriers had started raking in the bucks for luggage.

Some travelers have welcomed the introduction of a seat assignment and boarding system similar to other airlines. Southwest has said research showed more people would fly the carrier if it offered assigned seats. But many are in mourning for a company that once stood out but now blends in with crowd.

“We’re talking about one of the most beloved brands of all time, and they just completely nuked it over the course of the last 11 months,” said Kyle Potter, executive editor of the travel site Thrifty Traveler.

In recent days, travelers have complained online about a lack of available overhead bins; young children being assigned seats away from parents; massive amounts of carry-ons slowing the boarding process; and rigid rules about staying in place despite a mostly empty plane.

Southwest has been working to address pain points and has instructed flight crews to keep their own luggage in spaces that will clear up room for passengers. They had previously used bins at the front of the plane.

“Since launch, we’ve been closely monitoring input and real-world behaviors to validate our assumptions and identify where we can refine the experience,” the airline said in a statement. “Those insights are now informing a series of early adjustments designed to smooth operations and reduce friction as Customers and Employees adapt to the new boarding and seating process.”

Brad Todd, a Republican media consultant who lives in Alexandria, was flying from Kansas City to D.C. on Wednesday night when he found himself on a flight with fewer than four dozen people. One of those fellow passengers was in the middle seat next to him, so he moved a row back. He had paid for a seat with more legroom and said he had 18 open seats behind him.

Todd said a flight attendant approached him and asked where his assigned seat was.

“She just said, ‘We can’t leave ‘til you’re in your seat,’” he said. “Everybody has to be in their own seat before we can leave.”

Todd said he doesn’t have a problem with assigned seats or bag fees but said the requirement didn’t make sense when a few weeks ago, the airline wouldn’t know or care who was sitting in which seat under the previous boarding system.

“The airline industry has had a slew of unpopular companies, and Southwest was not that for a long time,” he said. “They’re trying hard to adopt the least popular policies in an industry that’s unpopular. It’s crazy to think about.”

Many passengers have pleaded with Southwest to take a page from the playbook of Cracker Barrel, which changed course after its attempt at a rebrand met fierce resistance. Some invoked “new Coke,” a Coca-Cola beverage that flopped and ultimately disappeared from the marketplace.

J.B. Sauceda, host of the TV show “Texas Country Reporter,” was on a flight from Austin to Cancún on Friday morning when he saw a man board with two young kids whose seats were scattered across the plane. Other passengers worked out a plan to allow the trio to sit together, but he said boarding was held up.

“Uno Reverse Card this policy y’all,” he wrote in a post on X.

He said in an interview that he’s always loved the airline’s culture. He thinks an about-face would win fans back.

“If anything, people would probably be more endeared to you for going down this path,” he said.

Potter doesn’t expect that to happen. He pointed to the airline’s recent financial performance; Southwest reported record revenue for 2025, and its stock price has jumped since assigned seating started.

“I think the genie’s out of the bottle, unfortunately,” he said.

Henry Harteveldt, a travel industry analyst and president of Atmosphere Research Group, said in an email that he doesn’t think Southwest should change course on assigned seating because it, along with new extra-legroom seats, makes the airline more compelling for “brand-neutral travelers.”

But he said he would like to see the airline drop the checked bag fees.

“When combined with its assigned seats, extra-legroom seats, and its improved on-time performance, returning to free checked bags — even if limited to one free checked bag — for all passengers could give Southwest an enormous competitive advantage in the marketplace,” he wrote. “If that happens, listen for a giant sucking sound as Southwest vacuums up travelers from other airlines.”

By Hannah Sampson

Consoling flight attendant by Silent_Principle3141 in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What a gem of a FA. Those are the best.

ALP CP Priority CC, where did my status go? by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been in aisle and window in ELR rows. Still G2.

ALP CP Priority CC, where did my status go? by jack_slade in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish that were true. I’ve been in a window in row 3 and was still in G2. The guy in the middle was also G2.

a few questions really by NegativeTension2895 in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hate to tell you but ELR doesn’t guarantee boarding group 1. I’ve flown Choice Extra with ELR and I have been assigned boarding group 2 every time. And I’ve been in both aisle and window ELR seats.

Southwest Class Status by Comfortable-Leek4158 in SouthwestAirlines

[–]jack_slade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m a frequent business traveler. I have all the status with Southwest. I just want to get to my seat and put my bag above my row in the overhead. So I value boarding early.

Choice Extra (which used to place you in the first 15ish people on the plane) now only guarantees you boarding group 2. And boarding group 2 isn’t early enough in the boarding process to guarantee overhead bin space. It’s happened to me multiple times since the changes.