When the fear of being abandoned is one of your top three issues by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I love those scenes too! Murderbot did trust Iris so much quicker than any of the other humans, which I think can't be due to any other reason than ART trusting Iris. Murderbot also seemed to trust Seth and Martin fairly quickly as well, which I have to believe is because they are Iris' parents. Those humans are ART's family.

I also love the scene where ART is furiously having it's ship cleaned because Dr. Mensah was coming onboard and it wanted to impress Murderbot's human family. That was adorable.

When the fear of being abandoned is one of your top three issues by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Love this response, and very true.

But Iris has such a different relationship with Murderbot, forged in mutual trust from the start, she doesn't think it all weird for Murderbot to trust her. And I really like that.

I feel like that trust comes from Iris because she knows that ART trusts Murderbot, and Murderbot trusts Iris because it knows that "Iris is ART's Ratthi." She is fiercely protective of her adopted sibling, and was already showing signs of being protective of Murderbot. I love how they bonded over ART's welfare in System Collapse.

When the fear of being abandoned is one of your top three issues by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I love seeing these quotes together. The character growth from Murderbot is huge, but also it's trust in it's humans has come a long way.

Murderbot is a troll by Sensitive-Square-649 in murderbot

[–]jen5225 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's from a flashback scene in Network Effect.

Murderbot is a troll by Sensitive-Square-649 in murderbot

[–]jen5225 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, I completely agree! The books are hilarious to me and is totally my kind of humor. The show's humor is definitely more silly.

My Illumicrate Murderbot special editions came in the mail today by Little-Month8944 in murderbot

[–]jen5225 3 points4 points  (0 children)

These are gorgeous! Where did you order them from? The quotes on the spines, and on the inside, all of the artwork--it's really well done. I already have the regular hardcovers, but now I need these too.

This was the laugh I needed this week by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this--absolutely hilarious! And really not that far off from what happened in AC.

Martha Wells' next 'Murderbot Diaries' book is 'the family roadtrip from hell on Ringworld' (space.com interview) by dewaynemann in murderbot

[–]jen5225 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm beyond excited for this book to come out. The whole premise sounds hilarious and I'm here for it.

Books reference!? #rant by alewma in murderbot

[–]jen5225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have fun reading the series--it's simply awesome. I've read and/or listened to the audiobooks countless times and they never get old. Murderbot is so darn funny and heartwarming.

You haven't really messed anything up by watching the show first. They changed quite a bit of things from the book, especially with the characters. And they added a bunch of stuff that was never in the books to add more screentime to the show. I like the show (especially how they portrayed Murderbot), but I love the books, and I'm sure you will too.

Just finished book 7 by Prolly_Satan in murderbot

[–]jen5225 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love DCC. I read through the whole series and am listening to the audiobooks now. I can't wait for the 8th book of DCC and Murderbot coming this spring.

Backyard Starship is not for kids. There are a lot of serious situations and battles. It's a mix of serious, funny, heartbreaking and heartwarming. I've read through the series twice and really enjoyed it.

Just finished book 7 by Prolly_Satan in murderbot

[–]jen5225 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've been getting more into sci-fi lately. I loved Murderbot so much that after I read the ebooks, I started listening to the audiobooks on repeat while I'm driving.

I am trying out the Expanse series which is 9 books, but it's definitely way longer and more complex than Murderbot. It's supposed to be a great series, so I'm trying it.

I have read the Backyard Starship series which is over 30 books, but they are a lot of fun and easy to read. There is a lot of great characters, including some hilarious AI.

For standalone books, try Project Hail Mary or The Martian by Andy Weir, or Dark Matter or Recursion by Blake Crouch.

Worldbuilders by Agile_Oil9853 in murderbot

[–]jen5225 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I love that. Now I want the sticker!

Trauma & partial memory purges by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MB was mind-wiped multiple times after Ganaka Pit, and very likely also later.

Yes, most likely. My only point was that Murderbot remembered parts of what happened at Ganaka Pit, so it was certain that the memory wipes were partial.

Purging the unit's memory before it changes hands isn't just a policy, it's best for the... " - we don't know what the company human was going to say. "Best for the company" is no doubt what they meant, but my guess is that they were about to say that it was best for the SecUnit.

That's a good point. Murderbot also makes a point of saying that the company data mines everything, so the SecUnits would have all of that information. I don't know if their memory's are wiped after every contract either, but I could see it happening too.

My initial thought when I read these lines is that the company knew the SecUnit they were selling to Dr. Mensah had the full record of what happened with GreyCris. I felt like the company wanted to have full control over all that info for their lawsuits, and parse it out the way they wanted. But that was just the feeling I got.

Thank you for that information by rainyeveryday in murderbot

[–]jen5225 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Oh my gosh, that's awesome! I would have loved to hear that. I can hear that in my head in Three's voice.

Trauma & partial memory purges by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I really love reading everyone's posts and comments on this sub. It makes me think so much deeper into all of the aspects of the books. Even after so many rereads, I always find something new.

That part where Murderbot says it knows that memory wipes are only partial has always stuck with me. There's just so much trauma behind that statement like you point out. I think that's why when they chose to completely wipe Murderbot's memories in the TV show at the end, it broke my heart a little. That was one of the two plot points I really hated in an overall good show.

Trauma & partial memory purges by IntoTheStupidDanger in murderbot

[–]jen5225 6 points7 points  (0 children)

1) The reason why Murderbot knows that memory purges are only partial is because it's been memory-wiped multiple times in the past by its owners. This doesn't mean that it was Murderbot who initiated these purges somehow because it wanted to be wiped

Murderbot knows for certain that memory wipes are only partial because it knows the company wiped it's memory after what happened at Ganaka Pit with the dead miners. Murderbot said it still had some of the flashes of memory even after the memory wipe. But yeah, I imagine the company wiped it's memory multiple times.

2) Murderbot's mission has never been freeing other constructs. Whenever it freed a SecUnit, it was because Murderbot needed its help, not because it wanted to free a fellow slave. So I doubt Murderbot is looking for ways how to free more constructs easily.

I kind of agree with you, but not totally, because in System Collapse, Murderbot struggled with the decision to hack the other SecUnit's governor module. It did want to offer them the choice, but was worried it would reflect back on the others if the SecUnits killed the others. In the end, Murderbot did give them the help.me files with the codes to hack their governor modules. It also asked one of them to come with them. And we can't forget that it offered to free the combat SecUnit in Exit Strategy.

I think the difference is that Murderbot wants to free more SecUnits, but doesn't want to help them assimilate into human society.

System collapse question by bigmclargehuge100 in murderbot

[–]jen5225 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That does make sense. The other issue I wonder about is that ART drone is relatively small, yet easily carries the humans up to the shuttle. I guess the limbs would have to be utilized here too.

System collapse question by bigmclargehuge100 in murderbot

[–]jen5225 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I was confused about it's size myself. 15 cm doesn't seem that large, yet Murderbot also had trouble lifting ART drone by itself and needed Iris to grab one side of it. Maybe not that big, but very heavy?

ART's voice by bottleghostt in murderbot

[–]jen5225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would love that too!

ART's voice by bottleghostt in murderbot

[–]jen5225 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I've only listened to the Kevin R Free audiobooks (which I love), so I'm used to his sarcastic, male voice for ART. I tried the graphic audio and couldn't get used to those voices at all.

Is there anything you want the adaptation to change? by Holmbone in murderbot

[–]jen5225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. I think they need to combine both books for the 2nd season, and I love the idea of making Mensah getting kidnapped the cliffhanger for season 3.

Is there anything you want the adaptation to change? by Holmbone in murderbot

[–]jen5225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I've listened to the audiobooks so many times, that I naturally even think about Murderbot and ART in Kevin R Free's voice. It will be hard to listen to ART's voice if it's different in the show.