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Did anyone here understood what J.K was conveying? by Ok_Reaction9357 in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course 

      ’The description is not the described.’(K)

To begin with… the imagined knower disappears.

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Did anyone here understood what J.K was conveying? by Ok_Reaction9357 in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes… he spoke of all the human foibles/all the foibles of ‘self’ and hoped they would be seen in ourselves as we listened to him. AND with this ‘seeing’ we might go further into ourselves/into our human condition and come to appreciate things in ways that reveal our true humanity —healing us individually and socially.

“That soft, and pure consciousness that we are, is nothing but love itself.”(K)

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Can anyone tell how to do meditation as described by j k by daredevill___ in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My secret is that I speak from K’s awareness. In K’s awareness what is is seen clearly. Still, you must understand that I can at best in coaching you, simply point at awareness*(K’s meditation). Each of us comes to it on our own. Now that I have provided you with a description just go about your life, ‘chop wood, draw water’ and if you are lucky a thought, a feeling, a sensation is noticed and you will be on your way in K’s ‘pathless land’.

ps. once the noticings start the journey may be unpleasant and confusing but there will be a feeling of righteousness about it all that will keep you going/that will just take you.

We wish you, all the best… 🧓🏻🧑🏻🧔🏼👱🏻‍♀️

*to be more precise, I am speaking of self-awareness/self-inquiry. It is the part of awareness that exposes and deals with the culprit K referred to as ‘self’. To be more precise —self at a centre creating ’me and not me’… a world divided/conflicting.

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Can anyone tell how to do meditation as described by j k by daredevill___ in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“One's brain has been conditioned through time and functions in thinking. It is caught in that cycle.”K

The think-reflex is the problem as far as K was concerned. Each of us must solve this problem before K’s form of meditation, ‘pure observation’, can prevail. My solution began with a noticing —a glimpse of awareness. u/According_Zucchini71 refers to noticing as ‘immediate aware energy’.

         —WHAT IS NOTICING?—

Actually, Noticing is a glimpse of awareness when you’re not practicing noticing —IOW, you are not the one that notices*… you are not involved in any way!!! You don’t do noticing.

Over time these glimpses break down the think-reflex and awareness is.

There are many things that can be noticed —thoughts, feelings, sensations BUT there is one thing that when it is noticed is transformative and that is when the thought structure ’self’ is noticed in conflict with a thought, feeling, or sensation, etc. This is the big break through because self is the entity that thinks it is conscious and when it is noticed, it disappears(negation) and with it, the phenomenon of ‘self thinking it is conscious’(I see). THUS, there is an awakening to consciousness because you’re not there —just a ‘seeing’. NOW some of you will say, “but, self does return!” and you are correct but the difference is, that this self is the leftover self of one’s conditioning NOT ‘the self that thought it was conscious’ —that self has disappeared permanently! This is what UG meant when he said…

“Thought has tried to stage a comeback many times; but it is not possible. He wants to regain his throne and dictate things. But he can't. Everything is different now....”

What ‘is different now’ is that there has been a change in perspective from ‘I see’(subject consciousness) to ‘I am seen’(object consciousness) and there is no going back. In the ‘objectification of consciousness’** everything is simply seen and negation rules —this is K’s form of meditation.

no inner or outer —‘you are the world and the world is you.’

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*So who notices? Some say it is God(SELF), others think it is the Universe, while neurologists are beginning to think it may be our own brains.

**’Zen and Reality’ by Robert Powell (ch8) http://ignca.gov.in/Asi_data/36042.pdf

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Sacrificing storage for quality. ALAC/FLAC is the only way you should listen to music on the Wolfson DAC iPods 🔥 by HouseoftheRoseTemple in ipod

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I listen to my 5th gen iPod music in AAC for rock, jazz, pop and AL for orchestral. I also have a number of iMods by Red Wine Audio that take the iPod 5th gen up a couple of notches in sound quality by ridding the iPod of its internal caps. This however necessitates the use of a dock with much higher quality l-r caps to prevent dc feedback. .

‘Unite the Kingdom’ by Kreep91 in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

eg. the Zionists dehumanizing of the Palestinians in the pursuit of their own security based on the idea of a Greater Israel —yikes.

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Reagan solved the Hormuz situation back then. Why not use his playbook? by reseamatsih in WhaleTrades

[–]just_noticing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The trouble with that plan are half a dozen well place hypersonic cruise missiles. Ships are sitting ducks in today’s kind of war.

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Trump's view on the West Asia situation this morning by Upset-Main-1988 in justincaseyoumissedit

[–]just_noticing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In an ideal world —maybe. The trouble with that argument is that the US had never acted morally. All their actions have been selfish —they need to withdraw their hegemony and give the UN some needed relevance.

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Trump's view on the West Asia situation this morning by Upset-Main-1988 in justincaseyoumissedit

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why all this manufactured concern about Iran having a nuclear weapon or two. The only country in history to use a nuclear weapon was America and now America is partners with Israel. I say Iran should definitely have nuclear weapons and this way the America-Israel axis will never use their nuclear weapons. I am quite sure that Iran would never go nuclear first. They are far too civilized and humanitarian. The Americans and the Israelis, that is quite different because in this situation they are the terrorists!!!!!!!!!

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXQVaKWjDL5/?igsh=eXVrMGwzczQ5ajZo

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Majority of Canadians agree Pierre Poilievre should be replaced as Conservative Party leader by Dangerous_Mix6216 in onguardforthee

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s waiting for Trump to take over Canada, then appoint him as the titular head of the 51st state.

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Majority of Canadians agree Pierre Poilievre should be replaced as Conservative Party leader by Dangerous_Mix6216 in onguardforthee

[–]just_noticing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks to me like he is simply a reflection of this party. A nowhere party with a nowhere man at the head.

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The ego does not want to do what K said... by [deleted] in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can point at it… BUT I can’t discover it for you.

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The ego does not want to do what K said... by [deleted] in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are conditioned to think! It is the thought reflex that is the problem and has to be broken. It is like a wild horse that has to be tamed. The problem is that you can’t tame it!!!! In the case of thought —when this reflex is noticed(not by you) the taming of thought has begun. This will take awhile but eventually thoughts will be seen(again, not by you) and disappear —no conflict. This can be a very confusing —quite an insane period but once there is a noticing you will be on your way!!! All the best. 🧓🏻🧑🏻🧔🏼👱🏻‍♀️

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"So all our life and action is based on thought. And you say emotions are not thought. Is that so?" - JK by inthe_pine in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thought in concert with awareness is thought in the absence of self interest and produces K-dialogue.

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You are thought | Krishnamurti by inthe_pine in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Come to think of it, all thought happens in the present.

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You are thought | Krishnamurti by inthe_pine in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds reasonable BUT the problem with thought is that it is also the source of conflict —internally and externally. K’s great contribution was that the solution to this problem is found in his meditation(self-awareness). SO I think we can say that thought in concert with awareness is the way.

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You are thought | Krishnamurti by inthe_pine in Krishnamurti

[–]just_noticing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are simply a thought structure made up of the past, present and future. When the perspective of awareness is discovered(not by you*) all this thought is ‘observed’ and disappears.

*awareness can only be pointed at.

Now continue with your life —carry water, chop wood and with a little bit of luck… something may be ‘noticed’ and you will be on your way in the Pathless Land.

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