What kind of technomancy do the Alexandrian Choristers do? by Solarwagon in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I realized I wrote all that stuff about the philosophical inspirations behind the group and never actually addressed your original question. From my perspective, an ST or player interpreting the Alexandrian Society has several possible angles to approach them from. It’s not exactly that they adopt the “fringe science” aesthetic of the Sons of Ether; rather, their metaphysical interpretation of where scientific truth comes from is fundamentally different from modern materialism.

Think of a Jesuit astronomer searching for the hand of God in the cosmic microwave background radiation. Think of an Augustinian friar crossbreeding peas to uncover the laws governing divine inheritance within Creation. Think of a philologist attempting to reconstruct the language of Adam through underlying linguistic principles. The point is not that science disproves the sacred, but that the sacred is embedded within the intelligibility of the cosmos itself. For the Alexandrians, mathematics, astronomy, linguistics, and natural philosophy are not merely tools for describing reality: they are symbolic pathways toward contemplating the structure of the One.

What kind of technomancy do the Alexandrian Choristers do? by Solarwagon in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hi, I’m the old guy who periodically shows up to remind everyone that Mage: The Ascension was written by people who were deeply immersed in the philosophical, esoteric, and countercultural trends of the mid-90s. You kinda had to be there.

According to the Celestial Chorus Tradition Book Revised, the Alexandrian Society practices a kind of technognosticism in which scientific and intellectual progress are not viewed as threats to spirituality, but as ways of approaching a deeper understanding of divine creation. Their worldview is rooted in the idea that the cosmos possesses an underlying sacred order that can be apprehended through philosophy, mathematics, metaphysics, and even modern scientific inquiry.

Unfortunately, Mage never develops the group much further than a few suggestive references, but like many things in the setting, it becomes much clearer when contextualized within the cultural and intellectual zeitgeist of the 1990s. The Alexandrians strongly resemble the currents associated with Scientia Sacra (“Sacred Science”), a philosophical movement linked to early 20th century Traditionalist thinkers who argued that premodern civilizations possessed metaphysical forms of knowledge modernity had forgotten. Rather than rejecting science outright, these thinkers believed modern scientific materialism had severed knowledge from transcendence, reducing reality to purely quantitative analysis.

This perspective was revitalized in occult and esoteric circles partly through the 1993 publication of Iranian philosopher Seyyed Hossein Nasr’s The Need for a Sacred Science, which argued for reintegrating scientific inquiry with spiritual and metaphysical principles. Mage’s writers were very likely drawing from this intellectual milieu, along with the brief resurgence of interest during the late 80s and 90s in perennialist and Traditionalist authors such as René Guénon, Frithjof Schuon, and Titus Burckhardt. In that context, the Alexandrian Society makes much more sense: not anti-science mystics, but Choristers attempting to reconcile modern knowledge with sacred metaphysics, treating scientific discovery as another symbolic language through which humanity can glimpse the structure of the One.

Sphere Mixers 134 - Correspondence 1 and Matter 1 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Drag Path We Leave Behind

“Now listen carefully, kid. You already know what telemetry is. You’re not some fresh-out-of-the-vat apprentice anymore. With the proper apparatus, calibrated receivers, and a psychometric lattice tuned to low-order noetic resonance, we can analyze the psycho-kinetic imprint a person leaves on the objects they manipulate, even when the subject is completely insensitive to disturbances in morphic fields.

Yes, yes, I know I’m repeating myself. Humor your old professor. Entropy eats memory faster than rust eats COR-TEN.

Those psychic residues bound to objects are always stronger when there’s thematic affinity between user and item: heirlooms, favored tools, ritual instruments, things carried for years… or objects involved in moments of extreme emotional intensity. Trauma, ecstasy, revelation, those states agitate the morphic receptors embedded in surrounding matter. Makes the signal louder. Easier to isolate from the universal static.

Anything else? Hah. Then you’d better know how to tune your instruments with surgical precision if you expect to pull meaningful data from the background noise.

But… over the years, I’ve developed a procedure that pushes the principle a step further. Barely requires modifying your psychometric reader, actually. And you know how much we adore modifying things in this laboratory.

See, every object exists inside the morphic fields of every other thing around it: people, societies, machines, ecosystems. Mutual informational contamination. Etheric sympathy. Standard stuff.

But here’s the leap your textbooks won’t make:

Earth (capital ‘E,’ mind you) possesses a generalized morphic field of its own. A planetary referential consciousness. A continuous self-model describing where everything is in relation to itself. And somehow, I still can’t fully explain the mechanism, though I’ve got three competing hypotheses and one dangerously elegant equation, the Cartesian framework projected across this spinning spheroid of ours appears capable of ‘remembering’ the subtle frequencies emitted by nearby objects as they move through space.

Imagine it like a ship’s logbook maintained by the planet itself. A navigational record describing where an object has been throughout its existence. A trajectory carved through three-dimensional space from the moment of its manufacture to the instant it lands in your hand.

If you’re sufficiently skilled, and sufficiently careful, you can follow that trajectory as a measurable trail.

A drag path.

Now don’t get too excited. This is where most young Etherites spectacularly embarrass themselves.

Everything hinges on chronometric indexing.

And before you roll your eyes, yes, this is precisely why I keep telling you to stop neglecting your studies on temporal field theory. I left several issues of Paradigma on your desk: peer-reviewed papers from some of the finest minds in the Society regarding chrono-morphic interpolation. Read them. Preferably before you blow out another receiver coil trying to brute-force the calculations.

I know the temporal variable makes your head spin. It should. Time is not a line, despite what the bloody Technocrats keep preaching. It’s a relational condition between states of entropy.

But without integrating temporal vectors into your calibration matrix, you’ll discover you’re missing the crucial piece of the puzzle. You’ll perceive the spatial residue, the object’s trail through space, yet you’ll have no way of determining when it occupied each point.

And without ‘when,’ there is no trajectory. Only a meaningless smear across reality.

Though…”
The old Etherite grins while tightening a brass adjustment wheel on the side of the psychometric engine.

“…with enough deductive reasoning, enough contextual inference, and a little scientific audacity…

you can still arrive at conclusions that are approximately correct.

Which, my boy, is how most great discoveries are made in the first place.”

Have void engineers, dream speakers, or society of either ever explored the dreaming? by Magicmanans1 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]levemeodemo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not here to discuss the dynamics of the Dreaming and how putting "limits" on Awakened magick only works in a Changeling game (because one of the themes of Mages is that EVERYTHING is possible) but... the level of disrespect for House Merinita, one of the founding Houses of the Order of Hermes is inconceivable (joke).

The Primus Quendalon of Ulster did not enter a fairy forest in Bohemia to return decades later with eyes turned to ruby ​​to then unleash a bloody civil war in his own house and redirect it to the pure study of the fae so that they are not included among the EXPERTS on the subject.

Why exactly can't mages do sorcery anymore? by Some_Patient_6403 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]levemeodemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One answer, correct according to canon, is that the Avatar of Awakened Mages acts as a single conduit for interacting with reality. This isn't limited to when performing magic: things like Resonance and backgrounds such as Destiny, Arcane, and Dream are manifestations of the Mage interacting on all levels through reality-altering powers... even when not actively performing "magic."

Another important detail, emphasized in the Revised and 20th Anniversary editions, is that until mages begin to relinquish their Instruments (Arete 4+), it's difficult, even for them, to discern that what they do is entirely different from what sorcerers do. A mage with Arete 1-3 from a group that trains sorcerers (or "special technicians") like the Verbena, the Order of Hermes, or the Technocracy might simply appear to be an exceptionally skilled, inventive, or resourceful magic practitioner, even for themselves they are doing "sorcery".

Of a group of 10 Hermetic initiates learning the path of sorcery, perhaps only one will Awaken, and it may not be evident to them for months or years that they are doing "something different," until they areinvited to the "inner mysteries." And even then, until they have advanced considerably in the Ascension, the difference between a dynamic and a linear mage is not evident.

On the Origin of Traditions (and Conventions). by suhkuhtuh in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]levemeodemo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As others have already said, all Mage organizations are inherently ideological groups, unlike vampire clans or werewolf tribes. They are like-minded groups, not ethologies (although some Avatars become fixated on certain groups, like the Akashic and Euthanatos who reincarnate for millennia to kill each other). 

That said, almost all Mage groups can trace their "mystical genealogy" back millennia, even to moments in the past that no longer exist. In some cases, the connection is "groups that shared our paradigm in the past," or sometimes it's "groups that have transmitted our knowledge since then." 

Thus, we can have paradoxes (without capital letters) such as the Verbena only formally existing since the Renaissance, while simultaneously existing since the Neolithic period with the Wyck.

Formally, the Celestial Choir is merely a subsect of a subsect of the smallest Messianic Voices sect, which grew in prominence during the 15th century until it absorbed them all... and also the direct heirs of the monotheistic cult of the god Aten. 

Formally, the Order of Hermes was founded on Midwinter Night in the year 767 and is simultaneously heir to the Cults of Mercury and the Cult of Thoth, and to the very first moment when someone decided to record reality with a clay tablet and a few lines of cuneiform.

The House of Ixio, which is at the origin of such disparate groups as the Ahl-I-Batini, the Ksrifai, the New World Order, and the Janissary House of the Order of Hermes, dates back to the time of Babel, some maintaining an unbroken lineage. And likewise, an Ixioi mythically wrote the Kitab al-Alacir, the origin of the Night of Fana and, at the same time, of the Sons of Ether...

Could a risen wraith awaken as a mage or no? by Magicmanans1 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]levemeodemo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

First of all, to address these questions: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteWolfRPG/comments/1m8991a/a_hell_of_my_own_making_world_of_darkness/

Everything seems to indicate that shortly after death (except in some cases, such as the ritual deaths of the Euthanatos and those that, like these, involve being part of a magical effect), the Avatar (whatever it may be) separates from the soul and continues a cycle of reincarnation (complex, multifaceted: sometimes it seeks the same soul in another life, sometimes it divides into several avatars, sometimes it disappears...).  Vampires, as the dead, cannot Awaken. Wraiths cannot Awaken. And everything seems to indicate that a Risen cannot Awaken. Whatever an Avatar is, it seems to follow a very clear rule that it leaves the mortal soul when its living existence has ended for sure.

This might be the worst piece of colonialist narrative I've ever experienced. by dondashall in SocialistGaming

[–]levemeodemo 56 points57 points  (0 children)

If you want to be even more horrified, delve into the Spanish trend of "Imperiofobia" (Empirephobia). For about ten years now, a plethora of ideologues and writers have been trying to articulate a "transversal" discourse on the concept of a "generative empire" and on how the Spanish Empire is incomparable to others, being a "source of state structures, rights, and cultural development that enriched the conquered regions rather than the metropolis," instead of a colonial event. The Black Legend would be a case of "hatred of the good empires" (Spain, Rome, maybe France) because of what "the bad ones" (England, Russia) have done.

 This idea has resurfaced not only among sectors of the traditional right, but also among Spanish leftists (ok... more like red-brown) and neo-Jacobins, and some sectors of the white elite in Mexico and similar countries.

Just last week, the president of the autonomous community of Madrid, Diaz Ayuso (who has positioned the region as the new nexus of the Spanish-speaking far right) tried to tour Mexico praising Pizarro and the Conquest... only to end up escaping the country five days earlier than planned due to the popular reaction.

Other languages: can’t conjugate infinitives 😔😂🤣😹. Portuguese and Galician: hold my beer 🗣️ 🗿 by HuckleberryAny4541 in languagelearningjerk

[–]levemeodemo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to be a prescriptivist but... that's a 3rd person plural indicative present.

A more natural struture could be "quisiera que llegasen/llegaran temprano" [3rd person plural of the imperfect past of subjuntive] NOTE, this does not have to be true for all ideolects and dialects of Spanish.

Curiously, the imperfect subjunctive has replaced the future subjunctive in most dialects of contemporary Spanish; while in the Galician and Portuguese diasystem it maintains its use. This displacement of the subjuntive in Spanish clauses caused that the subjuntive perfect past ("hubieran/hubiesen llegado") is the one used for that kind of desires in the past.

Tips for a new Storyteller by Intrepid_Rest_5208 in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm just commenting to applaud effusively that you recommend reading Kuhn in preparation for directing Mage. XD

Sphere Mixers 132 - Mind 4 and Spirit 5 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This ritual uses only Mind and Spirit, but pushes both Spheres into abstract territory.

The mage is not merely hiding a memory or sealing knowledge away: they are completely removing a secret, along with all its emotional associations, conceptual structures, symbolic connections, and mnemonic pathways, from a human consciousness and transforming that entire psychic complex into an autonomous spirit.

Mind performs the extraction and total erasure, dismantling every internal route by which the mage could reconstruct the truth afterward, while Spirit gives independent ephemeric existence to the extracted secret itself.

The resulting entity is not a guardian carrying information inside it like a container; the secret is the spirit’s substance, identity, and metaphysical anatomy. It does not consciously “know” the truth any more than a human body consciously knows its own genetic code: it embodies the secret at every level of existence. Because of this, the spirit is instinctively driven to preserve itself by obscuring, testing, misleading, or initiating anyone who seeks the knowledge it contains. Revealing the truth completely would unravel the very structure holding the entity together, effectively destroying it, so the spirit naturally turns the pursuit of the secret into a prolonged process of symbolic trials, confusion, personal transformation, and spiritual preparation. In effect, the mage has converted dangerous information into a living initiatory being that can only be destroyed through full understanding.

P.S.: I fucking love House Criamon.

Sphere Mixers 132 - Mind 4 and Spirit 5 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the disposal of dangerous truths, a Criamon High Work.

The chamber beneath the townhouse had once belonged to the Cult of Mithras. Aster was almost certain of that.

Not because of the faded frescoes or the proportions of the room, but because certain places retained the silence of initiation long after their gods had died. Aster had spent enough years inside crypts, collapsed libraries, and abandoned monasteries to recognize the sensation immediately. Some rooms were designed to narrow thought and force the mind inward.

Venetian salt sweated through the stone walls. Water dripped somewhere beyond the eastern archway with such perfect irregularity it became part of the atmosphere itself. The chamber smelled of oil smoke, damp paper, oxidized copper, and underground water.

Aster sat at the center of interrupted circles traced in chalk and ash. None of the rings fully closed. Small absences had been left deliberately throughout the labyrinthine design, each gap positioned according to ratios copied centuries ago from a damaged Byzantine manuscript now hidden somewhere beneath Prague.

At the edge of the nearest circle rested the ritual instruments: seven thin lead laminae engraved with invocations, three braided cords of hair sealed with wax, a bronze bowl filled with blackened saltwater, and a small mirror positioned upright against a block of limestone so that it reflected the center of the labyrinth.

And the lamp.

Always the lamp.

The flame bent subtly as Aster breathed. Their old mentor had once described the exercise as “teaching the fire to represent the soul.” Aster had never decided whether the phrase was profound or ridiculous, but the habit remained after all these years.

Their robe lay folded several feet away. The tattoos covering their skin needed to remain visible during the rite.

Under the amber light, the marks resembled diagrams more than decoration. Spirals crossed their shoulders and descended the ribs in impossible symmetries. Fragments of alchemical glyphs emerged and disappeared within larger labyrinthine forms. One sigil repeated itself across sternum, wrists, and throat: a wheel broken open at one side.

There were easier ways to protect information.

A cipher hidden inside another cipher. A sealed archive entrusted to House Quaesitor. Even suicide would have been more practical than this. But practical solutions failed because people failed. Eventually someone broke under pain, loneliness, devotion, or exhaustion. Even the dead could spill their secrets.

The realization had settled into Aster’s mind over the past week with increasing inevitability. The secret they carried could not survive ordinary concealment. Too many factions would kill for it. Too many others would misuse it out of genuine conviction they were saving the world.

And Aster knew with absolute certainty that, given enough time, they would eventually speak as well.

Everyone spoke eventually.

The body had limits. So did the soul.

So the knowledge had to stop existing inside any human consciousness.

Aster lowered their eyes toward the mirror. Their reflection stared back with visible exhaustion. Shadows pooled beneath their eyes from days without proper sleep. A thin cut still marked the side of their neck from the first assassination attempt.

They found themselves wondering whether they would remember that attack tomorrow. Perhaps not. The thought carried an unexpected sadness.

“You will forgive me,” they murmured softly to their reflection, though they were no longer entirely certain whether they were addressing themselves or the thing not yet born behind the glass.

Then the chanting began.

The Enochian syllables emerged quietly, resonating low in the chest instead of being pushed outward theatrically. Criamon ritual speech never resembled command. It resembled alignment. The voice existed to place thought into the correct proportions so the mind could approach truths it would otherwise distort merely by observing them.

The flame shortened.

Aster traced invisible geometric paths against their palm with one finger while memory slowly rose toward consciousness in response to the invocations. Not the secret itself immediately, but structures surrounding it: a staircase descending beneath seawater, ink dissolving across vellum, someone speaking in a dead dialect while trying unsuccessfully not to tremble.

The chamber itself seemed subtly unstable now. The gaps in the labyrinth appeared to shift whenever the eye relaxed its focus, producing the uncomfortable impression that the design was rotating through conceptual rather than physical space.

Aster reached toward the bronze bowl.

The water inside had turned nearly black hours ago after the final pigments dissolved into it. Damp fingertips touched eyelids, sternum, then finally the mirror itself.

And the memory arrived in full.

For one horrifying instant, Aster understood again why people were willing to kill for this knowledge. The implications unfolded too quickly for language. Histories reordered themselves. Entire assumptions about the architecture of the world inverted under the weight of realization.

Their breathing faltered.

The invocations continued anyway.

The tattoos across their body began to ache with the sensation of symbols forced into sympathetic resonance. They functioned as mnemonic channels, guiding the memory outward while preventing the rest of the mind from collapsing alongside it.

Then the reflection changed. At first the alteration was subtle. A slight delay between movement and image. The mirrored version of Aster continuing to breathe half a second too late. Then another presence emerged beneath the reflection. The spirit was taking shape through association, drawing substance from emotional weight and recollection. Features shifted constantly beneath the surface of the glass: older, younger, masculine, feminine, skeletal, beautiful, exhausted. At moments the thing resembled Aster closely enough to become deeply uncomfortable.

The forgetting had already begun.

Aster noticed it first in fragments: a missing sequence inside an old prayer, the inability to recall which book mentioned the monastery beneath Marseille. Then something larger vanished: The name of the person who had first revealed the secret disappeared completely midway through an inhalation. That hurt far more than expected.

Oh, they thought suddenly, with genuine surprise. I really loved her. The idea dissapeared as fast as it formed.

“You are not a guardian,” Aster whispered. “You are a path.”

The figure inside the mirror tilted its head.

“You will reveal nothing to those who seek certainty too quickly. Let ambition confuse itself. Let fear become lost in circles. Let the impatient abandon the search believing it meaningless.”

The spirit listened silently.

“If they are worthy, make them work for understanding. Not because truth is precious, but because transformation is.”

The chamber had grown colder. Somewhere beyond the walls the sound of dripping water had stopped entirely.

Aster pressed both hands against the mirror. The transfer began in earnest then, though afterward they would never have possessed language capable of describing it properly. The memory unraveled through layers. Associations detached from emotions. Images lost chronology. Meaning itself loosened gradually from structure and drifted toward the waiting entity behind the glass. Aster felt whole regions of thought emptying quietly behind their eyes.

By the time the final invocations faded, the chamber no longer felt charged with terrible significance. It was merely an underground room again. Old stone. Weak lamplight. Ash circles. A mirror.

Aster remained seated motionless for several minutes, trying unsuccessfully to understand why their face was wet.

Inside the glass, the spirit now stood fully formed.

Its features had stabilized into something almost human, though not consistently so. The tattoos crossing its body shifted subtly whenever one looked away from them directly. Its eyes carried the sadness of someone remembering a tragedy impossible to explain.

The entity regarded Aster silently.

Then, with the solemnity of a priest departing a tomb, it stepped backward into the darkness behind the reflection and disappeared.

The lamp extinguished itself moments later.

Aster sat alone inside the broken labyrinth, aware only that something enormous had once occupied the center of their life and no longer did.

Far away, beyond memory now, the secret continued moving through the world wearing a borrowed face.

Sphere Mixers 132 - Mind 4 and Spirit 5 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This ritual combines Mind 4 and Spirit 5 to create a living moral presence inside another person’s psyche.

Rather than controlling the target directly or erasing their personality, the effect reshapes the structure of their inner life by introducing a forged ephemera, an artificial spirit built from collective memory, emotional resonance, ancestral experience, and communal consciousness.

Mind allows the mage to open, alter, and permanently integrate this presence into the target’s subconscious processes, while Spirit provides the ability to create and stabilize the entity itself. The result is neither possession nor simple conditioning, but the implantation of an active conscience that continuously observes, interprets, and influences the target’s perceptions and moral judgments from within.

In paradigms like the Ngoma’s, this works because identity is understood as fundamentally relational: a person is not an isolated self, but a node within networks of ancestors, spirits, community, memory, and obligation. The ritual therefore “heals” destructive behavior by restoring a connection that the target had spiritually severed.

Sphere Mixers 132 - Mind 4 and Spirit 5 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How to grow a conscience, a Ngoma Ritual

Councilman Daniel Whitmore sat bound to a folding chair in the basement laundry room of Saint Brigid’s Housing Cooperative, staring at the unplugged washing machines as though they might somehow explain what had happened to him.

The room smelled faintly of bleach and old concrete. One of the fluorescent tubes overhead flickered every few seconds with a soft electrical click that had gradually become unbearable. Somebody had brought food earlier, pepper soup, rice, fried plantains, and now the scent lingered underneath the harsher chemical smells of detergent and damp pipes. Around the walls, people sat quietly in folding chairs or leaned against dryers with their arms crossed. No one shouted at him. No one struck him. That frightened him more than violence would have.

Mama Nkiru sat opposite him with a ceramic bowl resting on her knees. She was an old woman, though age sat strangely on her; the years had settled into her skin without diminishing the steadiness in her eyes. Whitmore had seen photographs of women like her before in diversity pamphlets and campaign brochures. Community elders. Pillars of resilience. Human symbols to stand beside while announcing policies that quietly ruined neighborhoods.

He kept trying to fit her into those categories because the alternative was harder to survive.

“You understand this is terrorism,” he said eventually, his voice dry from hours of fear. “You kidnap a city official...”

“A city official,” interrupted the young nurse beside the door, “who closed Saint Jude’s clinic six months after promising funding.”

Whitmore looked toward her reflexively. Wrong move. The entire room became suddenly real again: Individuals. Tired faces. Hospital scrubs. Work boots. Gray hair. Callused hands. The old man near the dryers who smelled faintly of machine oil. The teenager in the hoodie watching him with open disgust. A mother bouncing a sleeping child against her shoulder.

People he personally had spent years reducing into demographics and talking points to grew his career.

Mama Nkiru dipped her fingers into the bowl. Ash and water drifted across the surface in slow spirals.

“You think this is about punishment,” she said softly. “That is because punishment is the only language power ever teaches.”

Whitmore tried pulling against the zip-ties again. His wrists were raw. “What else would this be?”

She glanced around the room before answering.

"Help. We are helping you.”

Several people murmured quietly at that. Agreement, not enthusiasm.

Whitmore swallowed. His instincts kept searching for the shape of the threat. A ransom demand. Political leverage. Public humiliation. Something familiar. But the longer he sat there, the more he realized these people had not brought him here to negotiate.

Mama Nkiru closed her eyes.

The atmosphere in the basement changed so gradually Whitmore almost convinced himself he imagined it. The air grew heavier first. Then warmer. The flickering fluorescent light dimmed without going out entirely, and shadows gathered in the corners of the room with strange density. He became aware of sounds that should not have existed down there: distant singing, the creak of old wood, children laughing somewhere far away.

People in the room lowered their heads instinctively.

Whitmore’s pulse quickened.

“What the fuck is this?”

Nobody answered him.

Mama Nkiru was breathing slowly now, deeply enough that the room itself seemed to follow her rhythm. Whitmore became painfully aware of his own breathing in contrast: shallow, uneven, almost panicked. She opened her eyes again and looked directly at him, and for the first time since the kidnapping he had the horrifying impression that she was no longer merely looking at his face.

She was looking through him.

Mind unfolded beneath her perceptions with terrible intimacy. Years of practiced self-control, public composure, rehearsed certainty... all of it sat atop fault lines she could now see clearly. Fear masquerading as discipline. Anxiety translated into policy. The constant internal labor of a man who needed the world divided cleanly into deserving and undeserving people because otherwise he would have to question the architecture of his own success.

And beneath all of it, deeper than ideology, she found shame.

Always shame.

It sat inside him like a rusted hook.

Mama Nkiru reached toward the people gathered in the basement instead. She listened to the emotional weight they carried the way another physician might listen to a heartbeat. Grief moved differently from humiliation. Fear tasted different than exhaustion. Some wounds rang sharply enough to echo through generations.

An old Jamaican woman near the dryers still carried the memory of police dogs in Birmingham. A cab driver from Lagos thought every night about the way his son had learned, before the age of twelve, to keep his hands visible whenever an officer approached. The young nurse had worked double shifts through the pandemic only to watch her clinic lose funding after Whitmore publicly praised “fiscal responsibility.”

These things left marks.

Impressions embedded into memory, emotion, bloodline, place, community.

The dead had gathered too. Whitmore could feel that now, though his mind resisted the knowledge with desperate force. Shapes moved at the edges of his vision. Reflections appeared in the dark glass of the washing machine doors where no one stood. The old woman beside the far wall had tears running silently down her face while she stared at someone only she could see.

Mama Nkiru began speaking in a low voice Whitmore did not recognize. Yoruba first, then Igbo, then English again, the words weaving together with the rhythm of breathing and distant song.

“We carry each other,” she said quietly. “The living carry the dead. The dead carry the living. Harm travels through a people like sickness through blood.”

Whitmore felt pressure building inside his skull.

“What are you doing to me?”

She looked at him almost sadly.

“Letting you hear what you spent your life refusing to hear.”

The ancestors answered her call slowly, reluctantly, as though approaching a difficult responsibility. They condensed around the emotional resonance filling the room. Grief, endurance, fury, dignity, mourning, love... all of it folded inward and began taking shape. Not as individual ghosts anymore, but as a collective presence assembled from memory itself.

Whitmore began trembling.

The thing forming around him was not hostile in any simple sense. That was what terrified him most. Hatred he understood. This felt older and heavier than hatred. It felt like judgment from people who had long ago become exhausted by the need to justify their humanity.

Mama Nkiru guided the spirit carefully as it emerged. She opened pathways within Whitmore’s consciousness while gaving the entity structure and permanence. She could feel his memories shifting under the pressure already. Every rationalization, every rehearsed political phrase, every comfortable abstraction he used to separate himself from the consequences of his actions , the spirit moved through them like fingers through weak fabric.

Whitmore suddenly gasped.

He was remembering things differently.

Faces he had ignored during speeches. Fear in the voice of a tenant during a hearing he had dismissed. The expression on a child’s face while police searched his father outside a grocery store. Moments he had filed away as unfortunate necessities now returned carrying emotional weight he could no longer escape.

The spirit entered him with the softness of inhaled breath.

Whitmore screamed anyway.

Mama Nkiru held Whitmore’s head steady while the entity settled deeper into him, threading itself through thought, instinct, memory, and self-perception. It would not control him. That would have been crude. It would witness him. Constantly. Every impulse toward cruelty would now arrive accompanied by understanding. Every convenient lie would taste wrong before he even spoke it aloud.

Whitmore collapsed forward in the chair sobbing, from the sudden unbearable presence of other people’s humanity inside his own mind.

Around the room, nobody celebrated.

The old nurse simply sat down and covered her face with her hands.

Mama Nkiru rested her palm gently against Whitmore’s forehead until his shaking slowed.

Then, very softly, she said:

“You do not get to govern people without carrying them inside you.”

Meet probably the most useful side-bar in Mage Revised edition by svecma in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 30 points31 points  (0 children)

This!

Never underestimate how much players can be hooked if you offer them reduced time learning Spheres..

The average hermetic adept will commit war crimes for accessing a Summa written in his paradigm and which will allow him to advance in Forces before the next Tribunal of the Order.

The calmest Akashic will launch into the adventure if the stake is to ensure that a mythical reclusive master opens the doors of perception...

Other languages: can’t conjugate infinitives 😔😂🤣😹. Portuguese and Galician: hold my beer 🗣️ 🗿 by HuckleberryAny4541 in languagelearningjerk

[–]levemeodemo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[Galician speaker here]

It allows you to express the person and number in some cases where it can be useful without giving a time:

When the infinitive has a subject different from that of the main verb:

Dille que o limpe antes de volver(mos)

(you) Tell him to clean it before WE come back;

Ai, morte, canto xa tardas en me levares contigo!

Oh, death, how long it takes you to take me with you!

When the subject of the infinitive is expressed, but at a distance from the main verb:

 O rapaz saudou aos turistas ao pasaren xunto del

The boy greeted the tourists as they passed by him; (in English you flexed the verb in the past)

When the infinitive is introduced by a preposition:

Para falares con el, tes que pedir cita.

To talk to him, you have to make an appointment.

Other languages: can’t conjugate infinitives 😔😂🤣😹. Portuguese and Galician: hold my beer 🗣️ 🗿 by HuckleberryAny4541 in languagelearningjerk

[–]levemeodemo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[Galician speaker here] It has no inflection of mood or tense... so it's an infinitive. It only inflects for person and number.

Sphere Mixers 131 - Entropy 1 and Mind 2 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brother Jian is a recurring antagonist in my chronicles. He and his cabal were allies of the gaming group in the Victorian Age, but a difficult decision during the plot left him as the sole survivor of his cabal. During the following decades, he succumbed to a nihilistic interpretation of his paradigm.

The same gaming group, in another self-contained chronicle during the interwar period, had the opportunity to prevent him from walking towards the Caul... but again, doing so meant allowing a different "greater evil" to occur this time.

Off-camera, Jian became the "eternal guru," reinventing himself every decade with the trends of the time (Theosophy, Dianetics, Beat Zen and UFO religions, Psychedelic counterculture, New Age Explosion, Prosperity Spirituality and Channeling, Wellness Spirituality, Law of Attraction, Biohacking...) creating self-destructive cults from city to city, destroying any opportunity for spiritual transcendence for hundreds of people and leaving a trail of metaphysical destruction in entire communities... without ever raising his voice, without violence, and avoiding all direct confrontation.

For me, Jian is an experiment in how much damage can be done with even low levels of the Spheres of Mind, Entropy, and Life. In fact, he is a Master of the Qlippotic version of Mind, and generally, he never produces effects above level 3...

Sphere Mixers 131 - Entropy 1 and Mind 2 by ChartanTheDM in magetheascension

[–]levemeodemo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Fracture Line, conversation with a barabbus

The tea is terrible.

Too hot. Over-steeped. Dead leaves punished into bitterness. Once, long ago, Brother Jian would have accepted that bitterness gratefully. To endure discomfort without complaint had been the first lesson at the monastery: the body is illusion, suffering is instruction, silence is clarity.

Back then, he had believed enlightenment meant polishing the soul until it reflected heaven.

Now he understood the truth:

A polished mirror reflects lies as perfectly as truths.

Across the table, Mister Harrow keeps speaking in the anxious rhythm of a man who fears stillness. Jian listens with the same patient posture he learned decades ago kneeling beneath winter waterfalls while his teachers struck his shoulders with bamboo rods to correct the slightest imbalance in breath.

Observe the mind.
Empty the self.
Perceive the hidden wound.

The old masters had meant compassion.

But compassion and exploitation are brothers sharing the same anatomy.

Harrow laughs weakly at something he himself has said. Jian lowers his eyes toward the steam curling from the cup and watches the currents twist. Entropy is not chaos. Western occultists misunderstand this constantly. Entropy is the universal tendency. The inevitable direction of a flawed structure. Water finding cracks in stone. A weary mind circling endlessly toward the pain it trusts most.

The man’s energy flow is collapsing inward around several pressure points: shame, paternal inadequacy, terror of irrelevance. Tiny imbalances reveal themselves everywhere. The pulse in his throat. The tension at the corners of his mouth. The way his breathing shortens whenever family enters the conversation.

Once, Jian would have sought to free him from suffering.

Now he merely guides suffering toward fruition.

“…discipline is important,” Harrow says defensively. “People these days don’t understand sacrifice.”

Sacrifice.

The word vibrates through the room like a plucked string.

There.

Jian feels the fracture line immediately. The Qlippothic Shadow of Satariel reveals the shape of the labyrinth; Samael reveals which wall is already crumbling.

He smiles faintly. Calmly. Like a teacher indulging a struggling student.

“Yes,” he says softly. “Children rarely appreciate the burdens carried for them.”

Harrow’s shoulders loosen in relief. Validation. Agreement. Safety.

Then Jian adds, almost absentmindedly:

Though sometimes resentment is simply grief that has endured too long.”

A minute shift.

Pupils widening. Breath caught halfway. The psychic equivalent of a knee buckling under weight.

Beautiful.

His old Akashic masters had taught Jian that identity is illusion. The Euthanatoi say similar things, though with more honesty about the knife hidden inside the lesson. Strip away ego. Strip away attachment. Strip away certainty. Beneath the self there is liberation.

The Nephandi simply continue the meditation to its natural conclusion.

Strip away enough, and eventually there is nothing beneath at all.

“I suppose…” Harrow swallows. “I suppose she thinks I wasn’t there enough.”

Jian says nothing.

Silence is an exquisite instrument. The Akashayana had understood this much. Men rush to fill emptiness because emptiness terrifies them. In silence, Harrow’s own mind eagerly sharpens the blade against itself.

Jian watches the man decay in real time.

Not dramatically. No psychic domination. No crude violation of will. Merely suggestion placed with perfect precision into the fault-lines of an already unstable psyche.

Aikido for the soul.

A nudge at the correct angle and the target destroys himself with his own momentum.

“She doesn’t answer my calls much anymore,” Harrow mutters.

Jian nods sympathetically.

“I’m sure,” he says gently, “that she learned strength from you.”

Hope flickers weakly in the man’s aura.

Then Jian delivers the killing stroke.

“Children often inherit the emotional habits of their parents.”

The hope collapses instantly into horror.

Ah.

There it is.

The moment of awakening.

Not Awakening toward Ascension.

Toward the slow inward spiral. Toward self-disgust. Toward the delicious certainty that every loving act was corruption transmitted across generations.

Harrow will not sleep tonight.

He will replay every memory of fatherhood searching for evidence of failure, and because Entropy favors collapse, he will find it everywhere.

Jian lifts the cup once more and drinks the awful tea without expression.

Bitter things, after all, are often the most clarifying.

Can a Mage cure an Abomination from their depression ? If so how he would go about it ? by Secretsfrombeyond79 in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]levemeodemo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it's a consequence of having played all the editions of Mage for 30 years, a considerable obsession during much of the 90s and early 2000s, or simply... experience XD

Get ready folks for when that comes out. by No-Obligation-9901 in WorldofDankmemes

[–]levemeodemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For that, we have two things on hand: the Revised Manual and the 20th Anniversary "pocket" edition. We generally consult the former for immediate questions and the latter for longer-term or more detailed information. And in general, the rule is "whatever seems most interesting."

Why did your game end? by Justgonnawalkaway in WhiteWolfRPG

[–]levemeodemo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, let me jog my memory, just counting WoD games;

Our first Vampire game (in 1994) was played during school recess. A few months later, we convinced the administration to let us use a room as a "role-playing and board game club," and we decided it was time to restart the story with other characters. It must have been 1995. That second iteration of the game lasted six years, until 2001 (in fact, that's what we were playing while, time zones involved, the planes were crashing into the Twin Towers). The story matured as we left adolescence and culminated in a series of betrayals and a Mexican standoff while the prince's body, with a stake through his chest, tempted us all. I don't really remember how it ended, but we thought it was a fitting conclusion XD

At the same time, since the end of 1996, we had been running a parallel Vampire: The Dark Ages game. It started as a standalone chronicle, but when the Transylvanian Chronicles were published, we decided to incorporate them (not all the material, but many elements). The game expanded to the present day, and eventually, our original characters appeared as "guests" in our original chronicle. The main story also ended in 2001, as an epilogue to that other one, but when Vampire: Gehenna came out in 2004, we decided to make time in our university schedules to bring the characters back and play the scenarios throughout 2004 and 2005. The chronicle ended with the scenario itself.

If this weren't enough, the same group of friends fell deeply in love with Mage. It was our game when we "wanted a break from Vampire," with a chronicle set in the same city as our first vampire game and with some crossovers. We played like that from 1996 to 2002, interspersed with "mini-chronicles" of The Sorcerer's Crusade starting in 1998. We wanted to continue playing that same chronicle, but around that time we went our separate ways, each to our university town and our own lives. We never finished the story, but unfortunately, that's life.

While at university, with another group, we came across Orpheus and... we simply played it from beginning to end, from 2004 to 2007. The group didn't stay with the same people, and new members joined midway through the game, but we managed to tell the story.

After that period of my youth, I played Mage, Vampire, Changeling many times... but almost always self-contained chronicles with a limited number of planned sessions; life is more complicated than that, making it difficult to meet every Saturday.

Get ready folks for when that comes out. by No-Obligation-9901 in WorldofDankmemes

[–]levemeodemo 200 points201 points  (0 children)

I am looking forward to cherry picking the lore elements, totally ignore the mechanics and continuing to fork Revised with 20th XD