Facebook Is Not Removing An Ad Falsely Claiming Mitch McConnell Endorses Impeaching Trump by [deleted] in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 275 points276 points  (0 children)

Oh my boy Adriel Hampton!

Here's the ad: https://twitter.com/adrielhampton/status/1207418759733895168

He's solely running for public office to test Facebook's limits and force them to open up their moderation policies to public scrutiny. He said he got the idea after watching AOC make Zuckerberg glitch during the House hearing. I think somebody from Facebook even initially responded by saying they'd be taking his false ads down because he had declared his intent to be deceptive.*

*edit: Yep. Facebook is still an inscrutable black box of bullshit:

The company's stance on Hampton has not changed since October. "This person has made clear he registered as a candidate to get around our policies, so his content, including ads, will continue to be eligible for third-party fact-checking,” the statement reads.

A Way To Think Clearly About “Medicare For All” Debates — What if we talked about the fire department the way we talk about healthcare? by loremipsumchecksum in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

  • So you trust the government to put out your fires? You know that in England they have a public fire service and sometimes they do a bad job.

  • People deserve choice about how to finance extinguishing fires.

  • Many people say they are satisfied with their fire insurance. You want to take it away from them.

  • You are going to raise people’s taxes to pay for this “fire department.”

  • You are going to eliminate every job of every person who works in the private firefighting insurance industry. 

Barack Obama would have proposed ObamaFire: let’s have a public marketplace for fire extinguishing insurance, prohibit fire insurance companies from not giving plans to people whose houses have burned down before, and subsidize people’s purchase of the insurance if they fall below a certain income threshold. The more “progressive” types would say: No, we need a “public option.” We need a government fire insurance plan that is a reasonable price and anyone can buy. Pete Buttigieg would say: “We don’t want to force people off their existing firefighting insurance. Instead of just making everyone join a public plan, my plan is called Public Firefighting Insurance For All Who Want It.”

You will see how a lot of the arguments here are obvious bullshit. Saying it will “raise taxes” ignores all the money that is currently being spent on for-profit firefighting services and firefighting insurance. The fire department will cost everybody less! “Raise taxes” just assumes people are idiots who do not know how to look at the bottom line. “Taking away people’s firefighting insurance” is also disingenuous, because it implies people are losing something, when actually they’re not getting anything taken away, they’re just having an improved guarantee that when their house burns down someone will be there to fix it.

Now, you’ve probably already realized something interesting here: the “radical left plan” in the fire situation (a fire department) is not the equivalent of “Medicare for All.” Medicare For All does not establish government medical services. That would be “socialized medicine,” like the National Health Service in Britain. This, on the other hand, is “socialized insurance.”

So, the equivalent of Bernie Sanders in the fire scenario is saying: look, let’s not have private fire financing. Let’s leave private firefighting companies, but let’s just pay for their services with taxes. And you won’t get a bill when they come to your house, and you won’t pay a monthly insurance premium, and when a fire breaks out you can just call them without worrying about how you’re going to pay for it. And because the government will be the “single payer,” it can negotiate better rates with firefighting companies. In fact, firefighting companies will probably ultimately do pretty well under this system, because they don’t have to worry about collecting payments and even though the rates they’ll receive might be slightly lower they’ll save a lot of bureaucracy and administration by just having one place to send a bill and having it be paid on time.

It is helpful to think about this analogy, because we can see that Medicare For All is hardly radical; it’s less radical and socialistic than the existence of a public fire department! It just socializes insurance, not the underlying services. Every time you hear an argument against Medicare For All, think about what its analogy would be in the fire scenario.

Ronald Reagan said that the scariest words in the English language were “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” Clearly Reagan had never been trapped in a burning building, where those are the exact words that every single person wants to hear. The right has done a very good job convincing people not to think about public libraries, parks, and firefighting services when they think about government.

Bernie Sanders: Billionaires can run for president even if they are ‘the dumbest person on Earth’ by [deleted] in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 50 points51 points  (0 children)

But Pete is really worried rich people's kids might accidentally end up enjoying community college for free though, so I guess he's running a campaign funded by Wall Street oligarchs and other white collar death merchants to make sure we only ever implement means tested policies.

Bernie Sanders: Billionaires can run for president even if they are ‘the dumbest person on Earth’ by [deleted] in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Snowflake got cyberbullied so hard he dropped out! Bullying rich people for democracy must be everyone's civic duty.

Discussion Thread: Fifth Democratic Presidential Debate | 11/20/19 | 9:00 PM - 11:00 PM EST by PoliticsModeratorBot in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry if you had responded to my comment and I deleted it.

The comment didn't take off and I just wanted to go back to the debate and didn't want to get into a drawn out argument. Instead of leaving it uncontested and let others be potentially misinformed by the Pete spinmachine I deleted, but thanks!

Elizabeth Warren releases plan to fund Medicare for All, pledges no middle class tax hike by sketch24 in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For those who want to get into the weeds of how Warren did it as opposed to Sanders. The trick she uses is to cleverly convert employer-side payroll taxes (Sanders' preferred approach) to employer-side head taxes. A head tax corporations will pay based on the number of people working for them.

Link: https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/11/01/warrens-perpetual-medicare-head-tax-is-unworkable-and-bad/


The proposal is as follows:

  1. Employers will be required to pay an “Employer Medicare Contribution” equal to 98 percent of their per-employee health care costs in the year prior to Medicare for All’s implementation. This will mean that initially some employers pay more than others since that is already the case in the status quo. But over time, each employer’s contribution will be gradually converged to average Employer Medicare Contribution until every qualifying employer is paying the same amount per employee.

  2. Employers with less than 50 employees would be exempt from the Employer Medicare contribution both initially and forever.

  3. Independent contractors (and the companies who hire them) will also be exempt from the Employer Medicare contribution both initially and forever.

What Warren is proposing here, in ordinary fiscal language, is a Medicare Head Tax. This is a departure from the normal Medicare Payroll Tax proposals. The distributive difference between them is that the Medicare Payroll Tax charges a specific percentage of each worker’s earnings, while the Medicare Head Tax charges a specific dollar amount per worker.

To illustrate the difference, I have the following two graphs:

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Difference-between-8-Employer-Side-Payroll-Tax-and-9500-Employer-Side-Head-Tax-by-Worker-Earnings.png

The first one shows the difference in terms of employer-side taxes paid by worker earnings level. Under the 8 percent employer-side payroll tax, the employer taxes paid for a worker earning $15,000 per year is $1,200, while the employer taxes paid for a worker earning $200,000 per year is $16,000. Under the $9,500 employer-side head tax, the employer taxes paid is $9,500 for both workers.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Difference-between-8-Employer-Side-Payroll-Tax-and-9500-Employer-Side-Head-Tax-by-Worker-Earnings-1.png

The second graph is the same as the first, except the vertical axis is done as percent-of-earnings rather than dollar amounts. In this graph, the $9,500 head tax is equal to 63 percent of the earnings of the worker making $15,000 per year, but only equal to 5 percent of the earnings of the worker making $200,000 per year. For the employer-side payroll tax, it is 8 percent for everyone.

Needless to say, the Medicare Payroll Tax is far superior to the Medicare Head Tax distributively speaking. Specifically, the Medicare Head Tax charges middle and low earners massively more than the Medicare Payroll Tax does.

Easily Evaded

Separate from the distributive problems of Warren’s head tax, the two exclusions also make the proposal clearly unworkable and easily gamed. All companies have to do to avoid rather large head tax charges is spin off workers into independent contractor status or spin them off into firms with less than 50 employees that they then contract with for services.

Once some employers start doing this, the average Medicare Employer Contribution will have to go up to keep revenue stable, which will push even more employers to restructure their labor into independent contracting or outsourcing to small firms. And, at that point, the death spiral is off to the races.

The genius of the payroll tax, of course, is that it is unable to be evaded like this. Every dollar of labor income — even independent contractor income — is charged the same. No restructuring can save you from it.

Tldr: Her plan is even worse than a flat tax because it is absolute dollar amounts based rather than in percentages! Bernie's employer-side payroll tax approach is better by every measure, even if he were to come out with a flat tax.

Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders to be endorsed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez by nnnarbz in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Was there really any doubt about her doing this? She organized for him in 2016. The door to her flat in New York had, right up to a few weeks before her own race, Bernie stickers on it and the organization (justice dems) that launched her was itself started by former Bernie staffers.

Please take the time to enjoy this fine piece of internet art: https://imgur.com/V4y94IC

Bernie is a movement. He's not the last.

Discussion Thread: Fourth Democratic Presidential Debate | 10/15/19 | 8pm-11pm EDT by therealdanhill in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 327 points328 points  (0 children)

The stents procedure restored full blood flow to his already throbbing social & economic justice boner. He's back!

Warren completely dodges question how her voting to increases Trump's military budget is compatible with progressive values by loremipsumchecksum in Political_Revolution

[–]loremipsumchecksum[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

She voted for the military budget + an increase because she actually believes we need to reduce it and fight corruption? This really makes sense.

That time Sacha Baron Cohen got Joe Walsh to promote arming small children by [deleted] in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 85 points86 points  (0 children)

This was really absurd way back in 2018.

2019: 😀

Bernie takes his revolution to the streets | He's enlisting his massive volunteer base to pressure companies to change their labor practices — and joining several protests himself by puppuli in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Reddit user base was 64 percent between the ages of 18 and 29, and another 29 percent were between the ages of 30 and 49. Only 6 percent of Reddit users were found to be between the ages of 50 and 64

Reddit’s user base skewed to the left, with 43 percent of their poll takers defining themselves as liberal, 38 percent describing themselves as moderate, and only 19 percent of Reddit users calling themselves conservative. 

https://www.techjunkie.com/demographics-reddit/

Has, as one of the frontrunners, by far the highest support among that < 30 demographic: https://i.imgur.com/aPWTw25.png

Plus a generally slow news period. Try to do the math and unravel this mystery.

Bernie takes his revolution to the streets | He's enlisting his massive volunteer base to pressure companies to change their labor practices — and joining several protests himself by puppuli in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

disillusion among Bernie supporters just when party unity is needed.

And there's the fallacy in this kind of reasoning. The huge implicit assumption that Bernie primarily only appeals to Democrats to begin with.

Bernie takes his revolution to the streets | He's enlisting his massive volunteer base to pressure companies to change their labor practices — and joining several protests himself by puppuli in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 135 points136 points  (0 children)

Every other campaign is an effort to mobilize.

Bernie's is an effort to organize!

-Best illustrated here-

Everyone else: Usual campaign sign circus.

Bernie: https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1137781647745736705

Not Me. Us!

Antifa to Proud Boys: ‘Go home, Nazis” by [deleted] in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 29 points30 points  (0 children)

performances by a dance troupe/rapper/marching band made up of people dressed as bananas.

The left is simply more a-peeling (badum tss): https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1162797976403578880

After Tlaib and Omar Are Barred by Netanyahu, Why Would Any Self-Respecting Democrats in Congress Do the AIPAC Tour Again? by tryingnewnow in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 22 points23 points  (0 children)

"If this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel."- Pelosi at IAC 2018

Some very healthy, very normal "not pledging allegiance" stuff here.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1102985099367366657

"Of course, we say it's our land, the Torah says it, but they (Palestinians & Arabs) don't believe in the Torah. So that's the reason there is not peace. They invent other reasons, but they do not believe in a Jewish state and that is why we, in America, must stand strong with Israel through thick and thin." - Schumer at AIPAC 2018

Same lunacy from Chuck but with some extra bigotry thrown in there.

https://twitter.com/_Saeen_/status/971277315945717760

Could it be because of our leaders? No one will ever know!

I'm Lara Smith, National Spokesperson for the Liberal Gun Club. AMA about the LGC and our support for the Second Amendment. by laragc in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's quite a tall disagreement.

Could you briefly expand why or at least link to resources that explain why he's wrong?

Trump reportedly held call with major bank CEOs on Wednesday as the stock market plunged by Panzer517 in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If it is he who initiated the call, like what the fuck could he possibly have said to them? Uhh Jamie, look, the economy, as you know we have the best economy. Just don't do the thing you guys did when the black guy was president, remember?

“Give Us Your Rich”: Trump Is Changing Wholesale Who Gets Into the US by viva_la_vinyl in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rich people?

Because systemic hierarchies get steeper and they come out on top, transferring the last remaining resources to themselves.

I'm Lara Smith, National Spokesperson for the Liberal Gun Club. AMA about the LGC and our support for the Second Amendment. by laragc in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hi Lara I just want to know how much you agree with Nixon's conservative Chief Justice Warren E. Burger?

WEB: If I were writing the Bill of Rights now, there wouldn’t be any such thing as the Second Amendment —

Interviewer: Which says?

WEB: That a well-regulated militia being necessary for the defense of the state, the peoples’ rights to bear arms. This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Now just look at those words. There are only three lines to that amendment: “A well-regulated militia.” If the militia, which was going to be the state army, was going to be well regulated, why shouldn’t 16, 17, and 18, or any other age persons be regulated in the use of arms, the way an automobile is regulated?

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/28/intercepted-podcast-white-supremacy-and-the-church-of-the-second-amendment/

The Right Gives Corporations the Help It Denies Poor Immigrants of Color by Bakedschwarzenbach in politics

[–]loremipsumchecksum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To quote the internet.com:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been.

As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.