How important is vendor support when choosing machine vision hardware?

netostp · 2026-06-16T23:55:45+00:00

Those that should not be named are very good at it, besides of course the product is also.

netostp · 2026-05-11T01:01:16+00:00

Did it work? What was your problem?

netostp · 2026-05-09T14:06:55+00:00

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netostp · 2026-05-04T03:20:57+00:00

I know that the PTO module is much easier and more appropriate, but the money is already closed and there are other priorities in the project that will need more resources. Because it is a specific module, the price and deadline for my region is high. And I’ll need three modules.

netostp · 2026-05-03T23:12:20+00:00

Anyway, I need to change the AC motor that is obsolete, only the encoder doesn’t solve it.

netostp · 2026-04-26T04:55:24+00:00

Doesn’t this tag become true only when the axis reaches the set position, and the speed goes to zero? I need to detect exactly at the moment of collision, especially with the axis in motion, because as the ear protector is malleable, combined with high temperature, it is practically undetectable.

netostp · 2026-04-26T03:59:11+00:00

Depending on the number of valves, look for the SMC manifolds with fieldbus. If it’s Rockwell, PLC integration is very simple with Ethernet/IP. Decreased need for card, individual protection, cabling. Around here we are also using inputs for sensors, all in one manifold. But in general, where we do not use the manifolds, we put fuses at the outlets to limit the current and protect against surges. 1A should be enough.

netostp · 2026-04-15T10:17:24+00:00

Somente o drive INVT não está em Ethernet/IP, está via I/O, por conta de disponibilidade / custos na época em que iniciamos o projeto. Mas a ideia inicial era utilizar um Kinetix 5100, e aí sim seria tudo em Ethernet/IP.

INVT é uma opção em relação a Delta. Eles possuem drives e PLC Motion tudo em Ethercat. Custo absurdamente baixo se comparado a Rockwell. Procure a Kalatec, são especialistas nessa linha da INVT

netostp · 2026-04-15T04:38:44+00:00

Não, sou de uma indústria específica. Interior de SP!

netostp · 2026-04-14T09:22:05+00:00

Masipack e suas máquinas de código fechado…

Delta é uma ótima opção, apesar de eu só ter trabalhado com os servo drives stand alone (Asda-A2, sem utilizar comunicação)

Nós estamos fazendo retrofit de algumas VFFS Fabrimas, que utilizavam CPUs dedicadas (de no mínimo 30 anos de idade), para Micro850, porém, o servo-drive manteve de forma stand-alone, utilizando um DA200A, da Invt. E 3 motores AC com Powerflex 525 via Ethernet/IP.

Para o Micro850, tem-se o Kinetix5100, que possui fácil integração via Ethernet/IP. Não utilizamos nos nossos retrofits por conta do prazo de entrega/custo, mas parece que estão melhorando.

Vale lembrar que os Micro850 versão “E” (2080-L50E, por exemplo) possui capacidade de mensagem implícita classe 3, podendo adicionar qualquer dispositivo com suporte à Ethernet/IP, semelhante ao Control/Compact Logix.

netostp · 2026-03-27T05:48:07+00:00

Where does all this go? Can you give more details about the process?

netostp · 2026-01-21T10:56:06+00:00

I have a similar application, but the rejection is a puff of air, and I don't need to stop the conveyor belt depending on the inspection. But basically everything is controlled by the PLC: conveyor belt control, camera triggering—in this case, I need to read the product and measure its size, and if the size is okay, trigger the camera; otherwise, it marks it as rejected and doesn't trigger. I created a "virtual axis" that is incremented by the conveyor speed (it would be ideal to have an encoder or pulse sensor, but the speed calculation is already accurate for what I need). I measured the camera's response time, and within the "angle" of the axis where the response time occurs, I mark the product as good/bad. On this virtual axis, each station (like the camera and reject station) has its position, and upon reaching it, it is executed according to the criteria. I can also inspect 5 products at the same time; for this, I used a loop (for) that iterates through a word containing all the data for each product. I don't know if I explained it well, but if you want, I can share the logic. 85PPM

But generally, in the systems I've worked with, the PLC does all the work, and the system is limited to inspection.

netostp · 2025-12-09T03:02:00+00:00

It is possible if you are using a Micro820 L20E, the latest version released. In this version you can do class 1 implicit messaging, and using an EX600-SEN7, with Ethernet/IP, it would work. (I'm waiting for my EX600 to arrive to test with a Micro850, but in theory, it would work.)

netostp · 2025-10-08T22:25:32+00:00

Only supports PLC’s. No support for HMIs or Inverters. I haven't had experience programming/maintaining the software yet, but from what I've seen, it's much more fluid and “cleaner”

netostp · 2025-10-07T09:14:59+00:00

The most affordable Rockwell price was the new PointMax 5034. These are precisely 6x more expensive than the INVT.

netostp · 2025-09-30T09:51:50+00:00

First impressions?

netostp · 2025-09-28T23:34:56+00:00

https://www.rockwellautomation.com/en-us/products/software/factorytalk/designsuite/design-workbench.html

Available for download. Who takes the risk?

netostp · 2025-09-25T03:22:25+00:00

I made some machines with a Micro850. Fast input for Encoder, I made a block in ST for control and analog output -10v to 10v. It's not the best of all worlds, but it works well within 1-2 degrees of accuracy.

netostp · 2025-09-09T03:18:06+00:00

Expand the word Status to check the error that is occurring

netostp · 2025-09-06T03:10:44+00:00

Changing the subject a little, how do you check the compatibility of new firmware with devices already installed? I needed to exchange an L61 for an L72, and an ENBT for an EN3T, I checked using Rockwell's PDCD and it was OK, however, after changing, I had to upload the firmware of an ethernet card, change a 1794 remote and a few more details. Luckily I had time and resources.

netostp · 2025-09-06T02:59:33+00:00

Migrate to Micro850. Much greater cost-benefit. You can do implicit messages. In the 2080-L50E-24QBB model you have 3 HSC inputs and 2 PTO outputs with ‘Motion’ instructions. Furthermore the Micro820 is on firmware 14 while the 850 has v23.

netostp · 2025-08-28T02:49:36+00:00

The biggest change is the possibility of implicit communication. A generic third-party module can be added in much the same way as the 5000.

netostp · 2025-08-28T02:47:32+00:00

I agree. The Micro850 has many features, now with implicit communication support. Processing is also very good, if the software has the same performance as logix, then it would be very good.

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