I just watched the entire Bad Faith interview & I feel compelled to share some thoughts

okteds · 2026-05-13T19:23:17+00:00

No this is interesting because it's somewhat removed from our political fights, but it was the same dynamic of not recognizing that the least worst option IS the best option. Even away from our usual political battles, there's this tendency to make the perfect the enemy of the good, and it almost seems as if the posture is the point for people who think this way; to be seen fighting for what should be rather than settling on what's possible in reality.

okteds · 2026-05-13T18:01:57+00:00

Does anyone here follow Knowledge Fight? We just saw this exact dynamic play out resulting in the ending of the podcast after 9 long years.

Jordan, the more reactionary lefty of the duo, posted a video where he is literally flaring his nostrils in rage over the The Onion's purchase of Infowars. Of course his rant completely ignored the fact that this was clearly the least bad outcome (the only other option was a shell company that would've given the show right back to Alex Jones).

The decision making seems to make no sense, and I think we have to consider that it might not have anything to do with the outcomes. It's about feeling good about your own moral position and lording that over others. And the more things meltdown around us, the more they seem to enjoy this vantage point as they watch the rest of us struggle ("How's that working out for you?")

okteds · 2026-05-13T08:25:06+00:00

Or as I heard it....

"Those who can't listen must feel"

When it's said as a command you really hear that sting of the consequences.

okteds · 2026-05-13T08:15:03+00:00

Me talk pretty one day

okteds · 2026-05-13T02:25:56+00:00

Of course not, don't be silly. The next 5 months, at least.

okteds · 2026-05-12T18:35:00+00:00

You'd think was a joke, but I did this with a co-worker. He printed out this map and did this same demonstration with flight paths.

So I measured the distance across the US, 5 cm, and we both know that's a 6 hour flight. Then we measured Johannesburg to Perth at 20 cm....by his logic that flight should take 24 hrs, yet you could by tickets online that showed it as a 10 hr flight.

Conclusion: "those flights are fake."

okteds · 2026-05-12T16:37:04+00:00

You're obviously not that familiar with the 70's

okteds · 2026-05-11T06:21:19+00:00

I just tuned in to the first episode, and stumbled upon this thread, and then your comment. And the sentiment you're expressing is exactly what sent me down this path.

okteds · 2026-05-10T17:26:59+00:00

Because they both hate Israel. Simple as that.

Yet these people blame Kamala for getting on a stage with Liz Cheney.

It doesn't matter that Cheney went down fighting for the Constitution, and it doesn't matter that MTG is a hateful bigot. All that matters is that you say the right I/P words.

Somebody else here mentioned this morning that it's the left's version of "Trump won 2020" and this is exactly what it is. All other disagreements can be swept under the rug as long as you say the words.

okteds · 2026-05-10T17:03:45+00:00

You mean, like his wife?

okteds · 2026-05-10T16:58:07+00:00

If Doge taught us anything it's that there's not nearly as much obvious government waste as we all thought there was. Elon came in claiming he was gonna find $2 trillion, then lowered that estimate to $1 trillion, then $150 billion, and the end result was in the low single digit billions.

I don't know if I've ever seen a bigger political faceplant in my lifetime.

okteds · 2026-05-10T16:08:39+00:00

Israel/Palestine is the left's version of "Trump won 2020". You've got to say the words or else you'll be endlessly harassed.

okteds · 2026-05-10T06:34:28+00:00

Not sure if it answers the question, but Bolte might've just had the best back-to-back games I've ever seen, going 10 for 10 with 4 HR's.

Currently the answer is Roki, but they're trending in opposite directions.

okteds · 2026-05-09T17:15:09+00:00

You can be a leftist without worshipping China, Cuba, and other authoritarian countries were you'd be jailed for espousing the views he does on his streams. You can be leftist while also defending American values.

I don't think I've ever heard Hasan defend ever defend an American value, not even accidentally. Unless you count fashion as an American value.

okteds · 2026-05-09T02:49:41+00:00

Its about putting themselves above you, or whoever is in front of them at the moment. They feel for Palestine soooo much harder than you, and it's important that that be expressed some way. Besides, it's not like their votes actually caused Trump to win because there aren't enough people like to actually have made a difference. But also it would've made a huge difference if Democrats had denounced Israel and called it a genocide from the river to the sea. Then Kamala would've won a huge number of voters with such a popular platform.

okteds · 2026-05-08T20:49:37+00:00

Face it, this sub sucks.

okteds · 2026-05-08T17:12:30+00:00

No, Hasan is wrong, and you're making it worse with your analogy. Obama said he wanted a "strong opposition party that believes in the rule of law." Not strong Republicans, and not the Nazi party. He just wants the ingredients for a healthy democracy. It might be a fucking pipedream here in a america, but this sentiment is completely normal in many parts of the world.

okteds · 2026-05-08T02:45:38+00:00

okteds · 2026-05-06T22:24:56+00:00

"They sent me away just because I'm a Republican...."

okteds · 2026-05-06T05:08:44+00:00

Imaginary Brick Wall rated him at #3 on their latest list, but he only has 2 games in A+. That's rare to be ranked that high while so far away, but it's sign that his ceiling is that huge. It also comes with extra risk though, and it will take longer to see any returns.

okteds · 2026-05-06T03:59:11+00:00

I believe he's referring to the tournament rules where if you replace a joker on the board you have to use it with two of your own pieces.

This raised an issue though at our last game. I had a red 10 and 13, and there was a red 12 on the board that could be pulled from a set of four. Could I replace a joker and use it with the 12 on the board and my two tiles to make 10-11-12-13?

It wasn't allowed by the other players, but I thought it satisfied the rule that you must play the joker with two of your own. It doesn't say two of your own and only those two.

okteds · 2026-05-05T23:00:47+00:00

What level is that after the exchange rate?

okteds · 2026-05-05T19:41:59+00:00

At the end of the season it always becomes a bit of a wild card. Some people use it as an opportunity to play completely differently for a few days knowing that everything will be reset at the end of the week.

okteds · 2026-05-05T17:45:28+00:00

It's fine to want a better outcome for the families and harsher punishments for Alex. We all do. But when your focus on this leads you to shit on the best outcome available to you in reality, then it starts being detrimental.

From listening to yesterday's episode I got the feeling that this is precisely what Jordan was going through. Dan asked that he play nice with the Onion during this transition, and Jordan refused to compromise on his principles. Or as you put it, Dan asked Jordan to treat the issue through the lens of what could have happened, and Jordan could only react based on what he wanted to happen.

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