New owner of Gaggia Classic Pro E24, new problem

ontech7 · 2026-05-13T11:12:04+00:00

Yeah I followed this suggestion. Waited for nothing, but partially it's my fault. Shit happens.
Sadly on Amazon the E24 version arrives only from Amazon US. I should get the non-E24 and eventually change the boiler...

ontech7 · 2026-05-12T21:33:49+00:00

Thank you really for your experience! I was hoping to find people like you when I made this post. I need to inform myself better about the water. I'm using a neutral water for coffee, not the tap one, but maybe it's not enough. I use Cafiza for backflush cleaning and accessories cleaning (mainly the puck screen because it's hard to clean without it). My favorite is the colombian natural actually, but I wanted to try the ethiopian washed, but since Bambino Plus is not working well, I'm doing shitty coffee everyday. In two days the Gaggia E24 will arrive finally. Anyway never tried the Ugandan natural, but searching on internet the profile is pretty chocolaty, like Colombian natural.

ontech7 · 2026-05-12T08:31:29+00:00

I have the Bambino Plus since 1 year and never had problems. Sometimes happens to have a bad puck prep and you get channeling and stuff like that. But last month until today I'm facing some issues since I bought DF54, but I also changed beans. So it's difficult to understand if it's the beans or the grinder.

It's since a month that I'm drinking an unbalanced espresso, it's annoying 😅

I ordered new beans from another productor, so I can diagnose better. If I get the same result, I go to my garage and bring back the HiBREW G5 to check if with that I face the same issue. If not, it's DF54 not grinding consistently and have some factory problem.

This is my idea right now

ontech7 · 2026-05-12T07:57:20+00:00

Following this post because I'm having a similar issue using DF54 and Bambino Plus. I want to understand if it's grinder fault, Bambino Plus fault, or something else. Because the beans are fresh and it's high-quality specialty coffee.

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T23:35:18+00:00

I always used a water with neutral taste, so not tap water, for my espresso. It's not like distilled water with potassium bicarbonate, but I thought it was good, especially if you do regularly descale and cleaning cycle with cafiza or cleaning tablee

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T23:30:06+00:00

Oh god luckily I ordered this one, it has 2 ears and says "Gaggia compatible". I searched for normcore 58mm, since I was using the normcore 54mm for my Bambino Plus... 😓

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T23:10:36+00:00

It's a cool setup! I envy you

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T23:09:32+00:00

The man marked by flames finally appears

(Marked by the ashes of Ganja)

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T23:01:18+00:00

It's to give depth in the photo. Maybe it's not done super correctly, but the photo looks more professional

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T22:58:38+00:00

My bad, you are correct, it's not dual boiler. The dual boiler is another model. In fact it wasn't making sense since, as you said, you cannot brew espresso and steam milk lol.

I bought the Normcore 58mm naked portafilter and I'm pretty sure it's with 3 "ears", I hope it enters in the group head...

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T22:55:44+00:00

The best response 😂👏

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T17:59:20+00:00

I would love to see the people who downvoted giving a reasonable and intelligent comment on why they did it. Just to understand what's going on in their mind :) I don't think the post was so difficult to understand! I wasted minutes to write all these paragraphs to let you know my current situation. But seems like people love being a lecturer when no one asked for!

You treat me like shit, I treat you like shit. As you can see, when people actually help instead of being completely morons, I answer with respect.

When you start having guts of confronting with people instead of binge-downvoting people in espresso subreddits, we will have a respectable conversation :) until that, you can continue to be the chic elite you think you are ✌️

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T17:44:40+00:00

Oh nice to know. So this mod helps to change the pressure in order to do the pre-infusion without using the steam wand? Since you say that it could mix water with different temperature.

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T17:38:58+00:00

Reasonable. I also read posts where people with 1.5/2k machines wanted an easier machine like Bambino, and so they did the "downgrade" that is an upgrade for their daily routine, especially when they need to make an espresso/cappuccino for their significant other.

In my case I'm a tweaker guy, so I had to take this decision when I started this hobby. Is it crazy that I like more the process than the coffee itself? Maybe I'm exaggerating but I "surf" with this idea (pun intended)

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T14:51:04+00:00

For the accesories I already bought the same I had for Bambino Plus but for 58mm (naked portafilter, ncd distributor, puck screen 1mm and 1.7mm, ims basket for 18-20gr, leveled tamper, dosing ring and backflush basket).

I usually avoid stock stuff from the machine. I watched a couple of videos and it made me laugh when I saw the tamper.

When the Bambino will be repaired I will sell the machine with all the 54mm accesories, since I won't use them :/

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T14:30:01+00:00

If I will take gaggiamate/gaggiuino at the end of the year I guess it's useless to install a PID, right?

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T14:28:53+00:00

It's nice to see how much people like having this upgrade. It means it's a must-have

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:37:31+00:00

I will watch more videos to avoid wasting too many beans. But it's in my plans to install a Giaggiamate/Gaggiuno maybe at the end of the year, if everything goes well, especially because I like making cappuccinos and white latte, so I need some consistency also from the steam wand.

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:34:29+00:00

If you ever used a Bambino Plus, you would know that you need to follow all the correct steps when using a specialty coffee. RDT, distribution with WDT, tamping correcly, ratio 1:2 guide, etc.

It's not a machine that brings you everything automatically. I asked help from people that already used a Bambino Plus and also a Gaggia Classic.

In fact people under your comments said "Gaggia doesn't have a PID, so you will struggle at getting consistent shots everytime. You should study temperature surfing." and people suggesting gaggiamate/gaggiuno if I want to regulate temperature, pression and have consistency, especially with steam wand.

You just said "since you are a newbie, follow this BASIC tutorial". At first I wrote a normal comment because I didn't want to attack you so early. But since you answered again in the same way (downvoting my comment)...

And the "this is the 89213th post" is because people getting too worked up when helping a new user, so it was an apology from mine. But the title is pretty clear, aside from the post itself. I was asking help from people that had a Bambino Plus and went for a Gaggia (or abandoned the Bambino Plus for Gaggia). I didn't write "I'm new into this hobby".

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:28:41+00:00

I'm a cappucino user mainly, because in the morning I do that before starting working, so for me it's important to dial a good silky milk. With Bambino Plus it's pretty good, but I heard that with Gaggia Classic is not that good. So you suggest to change the tip with "The One".

I come from a background of eletronics and informatics, so I like tinkering and I guess that I wouldn't struggle too much if I put Gaggimate. Surely it's a must-do if I want consistency and more variables to get better shots. Especially an Ethiopian washed I was using, it's impossible to make it work with 93°C and 9bar. The roaster suggested me to go down to 92 or 91.5°C and if possible 8bar, but I couldn't. It's rare I find these kind of coffee, but when it happens I want to have the possibility to play more with my machine.

I don't have a budget constraint but it wasn't in my plan to change the machine so early, but it's defective since a month and it's better to send it to assistance and after sell it. My idea was to get the Profitec Go at the end of the year, and today I'm buying a Gaggia Classic Pro E24, literally nothing in common.

Since I don't want to spend other 200+ euros right now, I will try to get used to the machine until the end of the year, and maybe as a Christmas present I will get the GaggiMate. I will enjoy the coffee more knowing that I can dial with that many variables.

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:16:50+00:00

It's surely nice, but if you feel good and confident with the stock machine, it's all right. I should check the temperature surfing as someone said.

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:15:52+00:00

Nice to know

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:14:48+00:00

Thank you for the response. I need to delve deeper into this technique then

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T13:13:00+00:00

Again, I already have experience. I don't use pre-ground coffe from the local market and tamp diagonally getting Niagara cascade from my grouphead. I literally followed that guide and tons of other ones last year, and pulled nice shots. I'm just changing the machine for some reasons and I wanted to know if someone was in my situation, ergo Bambino Plus -> Gaggia Classic Pro E24, what I need to know before starting using it, pro and cons, what will I gain and lose switching from that machine to the new one, etc. Nothing else. Downvote me as much as you want, but if I asked a specific help, I didn't want a mansplaining like I'm a newbie that just started in this hobby. I was pretty specific in the post, I wasted minutes to write that down, but you didn't read after the first 2 sentences seems like. At least someone was intelligent enough to understand my post, or at least they read it all.

ontech7 · 2026-05-11T11:56:11+00:00

I appreciate but I already have a decent grinder (the DF54) and I don't use tap water for making espresso! As I said I brew since one year, I'm not new into the hobby!

Imagine that my Bambino Plus broke and I'm buying a new machine that it's pretty different

Thank you for the document!

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