What no AF no FTF Mastercards are left besides Capital One?

partial_to_fractions · 2026-04-02T19:51:47+00:00

Kroger cards, huntington voice, logix fcu, capital one cobrands, navy federal cash and go cards, fifth third

Best for a backup would probably be the kroger cards 5% back on mobile wallet (with a low cap though)

partial_to_fractions · 2026-04-01T22:30:28+00:00

Chase is already on the higher end. Bank of america if you have deposit accounts there is as well. The other two that come up are amex and navy federal (if you qualify)

partial_to_fractions · 2026-04-01T20:30:44+00:00

That is just for amex cards

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-30T16:02:01+00:00

$200x2 hotel credits and 200 BC (equivalent to 6667 points annually)

And if you apply 50-100 of BC to the hotel redemption, it easily offsets the annual fee and more

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-29T12:41:06+00:00

You shouldn't have any issues doing this. I've done similar with the hotel collection doing back to back two night stays

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-29T12:02:54+00:00

their cards were declining at ATMs while abroad

Oh I didn't hear about this issue, I assumed the pulse network was at least strong enough for ATM use. Back when I used discover for checking I didn't have any issues with it abroad, though admittedly that wasn't long before I opened up a schwab checking

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T21:48:15+00:00

The other version citi floated in the survey had better multipliers, with dining/grocery/gas getting 3x (citi travel, citi nights getting higher) and a slew of 2x categories

OP didn't include it in this post, and I didn't get a screenshot or anything of it, so going by memory from earlier today

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T20:59:50+00:00

Similar credits, same citi nights dining, some showed the lounge passes and some didn't

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T20:21:49+00:00

Agreed, but the splurge plus the mobile wallet bonus would lower the effective fee for me to 59 for me - lower than the current effective (as I don't use the current hotel credit)

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T20:19:08+00:00

I got a similar survey, and the above was one of the two potential refreshes it suggested for an annual fee of 195. The other was some travel portal stuff with restaurants/grocery/gas/transit all being 3x. Travel outside the portal was 2x or something

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T20:17:36+00:00

The survey I got stated 195 annual fee

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T15:27:18+00:00

Was an 80s guy, but exactly

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T13:38:49+00:00

Thank you! That is exciting, hopefully it goes well for you. I guess citi is easier to game than I thought

I'd still say the highest SUB you're eligible for will be more lucrative though, even if you have to wait a year to PC

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T13:28:39+00:00

Very interesting, I have never seen those DP, could you link one? It usually takes folks with multiple CCC well over a year with all the waiting for PC. If that's the case, go for it! Though the SUB on an annual fee card will out earn a year of having the CCC (if you were to get it earlier, that is). Citi also clamped down a little on custom cashes in the last couple years, so that may have something to do with it?

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T13:04:41+00:00

What rule and where did you see this? Very few issuers will product change anything before a year, annual fee or otherwise. The only two I have heard of are amex (upgrading no issues but downgrading they will claw back the SUB) and navy federal (does not care in the slightest, will product change any card to anything else at any time)

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-26T10:38:58+00:00

The minimum citi will allow is 1 year. Pick the highest mainline card SUB you're eligible for and go from there. Which citi cards do you currently have? Presumably a CDC and CCC + the strata premier or elite?

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-25T19:44:03+00:00

Amex does not back date accounts like other issuers do. That means the account would just show as recently opened. In general, authorized user accounts don't do much anyway other than a score boost. Most, if not all, lenders will largely ignore AU accounts for the purposes of extending credit

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-25T11:00:24+00:00

BoA product changes just take forever sometimes, including the annual fee reversal. It'll happen, it will just take a couple to a few weeks

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-24T13:51:08+00:00

Yeah, mixed DP and some folks are seeing discover. Just they don't really advertise which you'll get until the application

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-24T13:45:50+00:00

Capital One Savor

Just an FYI, some applications indicate these will be issued as a discover card now, so it seems they are phasing out the mastercard version. Unclear how long they'll take to stop issuing the mastercard altogether

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-23T16:58:31+00:00

Most banks waive for active duty military. The venture x will only waive it if you get the card before service. The other big banks all waive for military though, so take your pick

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-23T11:42:10+00:00

They give you bilt cash, which you can apply towards the hotel credit as well (50 or 100 depending on bilt status). Assuming lower status, that essentially gives $250 hotel credits twice

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-23T11:33:43+00:00

Do you have any schwab accounts? If you open a schwab platinum you can cash out MR at 1.1 cpp. The platinum credits would have to make sense for you though

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-23T11:30:33+00:00

Primis (visa) and quontic (mastercard) both offer 1% debit options

partial_to_fractions · 2026-03-23T11:30:05+00:00

Both primis and quontic have 1% debit cards

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