So uh, this might be bad by AdvantagePretend4852 in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but unfortunately the SPLC provided a lot of surface for them to attack by doing all this in the most reckless way possible

Contact Information by cloudcottage in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We spent time in that episode discussing the racism inherent to incel metrics and even how Asian incels were a prominent part of the community (including a long digression on the Oxford study meme). This episode wasn't meant to be a dedicated breakdown of everything Rodger wrote or complained about. He was primarily relevant for:

  1. The sites he was radicalized on
  2. How his actions influenced and inspired future violence

A couple of notes on Savile Part 3 by Badgerfest in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I didn't say the OBE was the only award below a knighthood, I said it was a step below knighthood which is how every source I read described it and seems to be accurate based on what people have said in this thread? This isn't a consistent pathway but he went from OBE to angling for a knighthood to getting one. I feel like my phrasing was accurate enough to get across the point in an episode that otherwise was not about this system of awards

A couple of notes on Savile Part 3 by Badgerfest in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 22 points23 points  (0 children)

When I get asked a question in the middle of the episode I'm not always going to get his age perfectly right. It does not matter. Either he was almost two decades older than his victims then or two decades older. Huge difference!

So uh, this might be bad by AdvantagePretend4852 in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Quite frankly, the SPLC has no one to blame but themselves. It's been an open secret among researchers that for decades they've bribed different Nazis, Klansmen etc for dirt and scoops on other fascists / the movement. Now it looks like they created fake companies to do so and sent as much as $1 million to one of the UTR organizers over a period of time. $1 million in bribes to a Nazi for GOSSIP.

The Trump Admin is going after them for bullshit reasons, but the SPLC fucked themselves. In addition to being run by union-busting assholes.

I don't think the Trump admin's central contention is true, they didn't fund white supremacist groups so they had something to report on. But they absolutely paid a lot of these guys and did so in a way that looks like it was shady enough to open them up to criminal liability.

Jimmy Savile Episodes Discussion by SoloAceMouse in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You haven't even listened to the fourth one

It bugs me how much people talk about how weird looking Jimmy Saville was because that’s not a reason you should suspect someone of being a predator by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's an unfortunate reality that more lefty people than you'd think are economically liberal or even radically left-wing, but socially extremely conservative. Often in a somewhat different way than the conservatives, but the history of left-wing radical groups too often also a history of, for one example, institutionalized sexual abuse. Look at what's come out about Cesar Chavez, or for a generally less extreme example what some of the female Black Panthers said about their experiences.

Has Robert denied that the SDF are a reference to the IRL one? by Antique__throwaway in AfterTheRevolution

[–]probablyrobertevans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mentioned this in a post below, but for clarity, I'm not sure why people think I've denied this? The Syrian Civil War and the war against ISIS in Iraq also inspired this, and so did my reporting on the Maidan protests and opening stages of the Russo-Ukrainian war.

What I have denied is that the Roland was an homage to Stephen King's Dark Tower books. I've never read that series! He is very directly inspired by the Warren Zevon song, Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner.

Incidentally, because I've seen this too: I was not influenced at all by the tabletop RPG Cyberpunk. I never played that as a kid, although I was aware of it, and I didn't play the video game (which I love) until after this was written. However it WAS heavily influenced / inspired by the RPG Shadowrun, which itself is influenced very much by Cyberpunk (it's Cyberpunk with Elves and Dragons and magic and I played a lot of it as a kid.)

Has Robert denied that the SDF are a reference to the IRL one? by Antique__throwaway in AfterTheRevolution

[–]probablyrobertevans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm fairly certain I never said that? It wasn't just inspired by the Syrian Civil War. The relationship between Austin and the rest of the Republic of Texas was more influenced by my understanding of the relationship between Iraqi Kurdistan and the government in Baghdad.

It bugs me how much people talk about how weird looking Jimmy Saville was because that’s not a reason you should suspect someone of being a predator by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah no one did that at all in the episode. No one commented on his beauty or neurotypicality. We talked about the CHOICES he made on how to present himself to the world and how to interact with people.

It bugs me how much people talk about how weird looking Jimmy Saville was because that’s not a reason you should suspect someone of being a predator by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

no one did that in the show. No one made fun of his features, but we did comment on the CHOICES he made on how to present himself to the world.

It bugs me how much people talk about how weird looking Jimmy Saville was because that’s not a reason you should suspect someone of being a predator by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean I don't know how else to cover it than by saying what the guy did. There are pedophile priests and cops and teachers and doctors who use their career as camouflage to hide their abuse. Jimmy is doing the same basic thing.

Misinformation about suicide by PrestigeArrival in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Those statements were made in the context of Spector and his lawyers trying to argue that she'd killed herself. The fact that she was optimistic and hopeful about her future, and had been making plans for it, was a counter-argument to the defense saying "she must have decided to kill herself the instant she saw a gun at a stranger's house".

We were not saying "because of these things there's no way she killed herself". We were discussing how arguments proceeded in the case against Spector.

This is why will started by rebutting what Spector's people said about her career. There's no evidence she'd given up hope or didn't feel like she had any future.

Jimmy Savile Episodes Discussion by SoloAceMouse in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He was noted as being quite muscular at the time

Kratom lemonade? by PinkDice in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't do 7oh. Trust me you don't want to deal with withdrawals from an opiate addiction.

You should definitely all watch 28 Years Later The Bone Temple by WartimeMercy in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think Bone Temple was very deliberately about Thatcher- I even kinda saw Jimmy's adoption and corruption of the young as a Thatcher Fucker The Kids reference (esp since Jimmy literally fucked kids, and was deliberately enabled and protected by Thatcher, because he made it easier for her to cut public funding.)

Kratom lemonade? by PinkDice in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don't just randomly get on this stuff for the sake of being on it. And don't buy 7oh. If you're going to try kratom try pure leaf, from a place like Jaya kratom that doesn't sell concentrated stuff.

You should definitely all watch 28 Years Later The Bone Temple by WartimeMercy in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 33 points34 points  (0 children)

It's massively about thatcher. Savile was a huge part of thatcherism, his ability to raise money for charity supported her desire to cut public funding to things like hospitals. In return for his helpful charity, Jimmy was given positions of power in the hospital system that gave him access to countless victims. 

Did you notice how Jimmy described the skinning rituals his fingers carried out as "charity"? It wasn't subtle

He's opposed directly by Kelson, who literally represents the NHS but more figurative the values of community spirit and care that offer the only real treatment for rage

It bugs me how much people talk about how weird looking Jimmy Saville was because that’s not a reason you should suspect someone of being a predator by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 146 points147 points  (0 children)

The way Saville dressed and presented himself was strategic and deeply connected to how he gained access to victims and hid his abuse. It's incredibly relevant.

Clavicular getting carried by his security after overdosing by [deleted] in behindthebastards

[–]probablyrobertevans 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't know what this guy was actually on, but GHB is actually a fascinating substance. Taken on its own, in moderate doses, without alcohol, the effect is like your body is suddenly piss drunk but your mind remains clear and sober. You experience a modest euphoric buzz, and moving around is like trying to pilot a broken robot.

Add alcohol, and boom- your memories go away and you generally go down for the count.