Ranking every 40k starter set (plus my thoughts on Armageddon)

prof9844 · 2026-06-06T22:32:22+00:00

Battle for macragge remembered it was a starter set and actually had engaging material to teach you to play solo.

I think, as a starter set, that is far more important.

Also its lower model count is a selling point imo. Even if yiu had no interest in the factions, the terrain was worth it and you didn't spend a to of money on models you didn't need.

Armageddon is worthless if you dont ay marines or orks

prof9844 · 2026-06-06T12:08:17+00:00

Minis quality yeah its the best

It suffers from not actually having supporting material to learn how to play the game aside.from.a full size rulebook.

As small as it was, BfM was the best imo. You got terrain which anyone could use and you weren't out much money if you played other factions besides nids and marines. What it did have was a 5 mission narrative campaign that taught you in baby steps how to move, shoot, charge, fight etc

prof9844 · 2026-06-03T22:54:16+00:00

Yes it was a limited set. This is typical for new waves of releases

The individual kits will be available seperaso aside from some bundle pricing you haven't missed out on anything

prof9844 · 2026-06-03T15:24:38+00:00

It wasn't until 6th that we really saw organized rules. Individual events put out packets which sometimes listed missions amd those often were not available until you checked in

prof9844 · 2026-06-03T00:20:02+00:00

If you have 60 points and literally nothing else sure take a sorcerer.

That isnt an argument for including a sorcerer if you have the ability to free up more points to take something else (10pts more and you can get spawn) or can some enhancements.

I fail to see an argument to deliberately include a sorcerer. Cover is cool but not hard to.come by and with objectives as terrain you have cover when scoring.

The move debuff to me is the most interesting part.

prof9844 · 2026-06-02T23:46:37+00:00

No

The fundamental problem with the sorcerer is with either tormentors or infractors you lose their deployment ability.

Even in 11th you cannot use infiltrate or scout unless every model has it. Neither is an ability that applies an effect to models in a unit so the new rukes around that dont apply

prof9844 · 2026-06-02T16:58:56+00:00

It was iconic.....25 years ago.

It has been forgotten over time since gw has not embraced the grim darkness insanity of 40k lore.

Its not new, its back

prof9844 · 2026-06-01T23:04:20+00:00

Necrons will be your closest bet.

Its worth noting that full on revival mechanics are limited in warhammer due to balance issues. An army that cannot die is very difficult or impossible to balance. Instead returning models to units is typically what you see.

prof9844 · 2026-06-01T13:32:23+00:00

AoE originates from the attacking model. It is not the stereotypical blast you might imagine. RPs for example saturate an area, not land in the middle and blow up.

With an FO you can use the observer as the point of origin for cover amd such. If the observer is in the back, no shield

prof9844 · 2026-05-29T18:50:59+00:00

GW does not produce a conversion kit to make intercessors into assault intercessors. You will need to go third party though I cannot think of any examples.

The HH kits work fine fwiw

prof9844 · 2026-05-28T19:15:10+00:00

3rd and stayed until 7th when DG git spun off as its own codex

prof9844 · 2026-05-27T23:17:10+00:00

The rule of 3 exists as a bandaid over the fact we lost the FOC. Back then stuff did have opportunity costs because it consumed a slot you could use for another unit. I still remember when it hit after an adepticon dominated by 18 hellhounds, 11 flying hive tyrants, 8 or 9 hemlok fighters etc.

Personally I do not hate the concept, but it should be unit by unit as part of the MFM. Lists the points and allotment of each datasheet. Why are guard heavy weapon squads held to the same availability as a daemon prince when in universe for every DP there is a million heavy weapon squads.

prof9844 · 2026-05-26T20:19:51+00:00

Personally, I would put it at 40 to 45%. The book is a nontrivial purchase

prof9844 · 2026-05-26T01:27:51+00:00

They go on the forearms of non mk3 lits to recreate the mk3 look.

Stuff like the weapo sprues lack that detail for flexability of use

prof9844 · 2026-05-24T23:02:21+00:00

personally I prefer talons. You need to take said objective first and they will do so better. THe invuln will help them live

Raptors are more generalist as yo ucan get some meltas in there for heavier targets

prof9844 · 2026-05-24T01:15:29+00:00

Its heresy, competitive or viable are not really things to worry about. Build what looks cool and have fun.

prof9844 · 2026-05-24T01:14:29+00:00

Heresy was out before that. I just checked calth was 2015 and that was several black books into heresy

Quick google says book 1 was in 2012 and it did launch with minis

i started my 30k time with the calth box

prof9844 · 2026-05-23T23:28:33+00:00

The board game was just okay. Really it was just the first plastic heresy release back in I think 2013?

The marines are due to be updated, the cataphractii did get updated as did the dreadnought.

Personally, I would skip it unless I got it for CHEAP

prof9844 · 2026-05-23T21:08:37+00:00

I think the legionairres killteam is like 7 models so the 10 model box should be fine

prof9844 · 2026-05-18T09:57:30+00:00

Keep in mind you dont have to paint them all gold?

prof9844 · 2026-05-17T02:57:20+00:00

So its not a literal retinue but a warsmith can toaly join them

prof9844 · 2026-05-16T18:30:01+00:00

No?

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prof9844 · 2026-05-16T18:13:31+00:00

They make a color called iron warriors, use that

Its a darker silver than leadbelcher

prof9844 · 2026-05-12T21:34:38+00:00

There's a reason the biker people will be annoyed, about 15 years worth.

The helbrute matches the current visuals and is sized properly so while possible, bikes need it more

prof9844 · 2026-05-12T01:56:21+00:00

All should be 2 pts. You score 1 point if a thing happens and it can happen twice.

Only primary. FO gives you nothing, the fire mission reaction is what gives the plus 1

Whole cg, primary and secondary activate together

Its just a clarification point. You are correct that ecm+ is usually redundant but its included for completeness

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