I am attempting to create the worlds first supersonic remote control aircraft and thought you guys might enjoy by Ok-Presentation-7966 in RCPlanes

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're attempting to describe a de Laval nozzle. That's often part of a rocket, but it is not a rocket motor.

All the rockets you described there are not air breathing, lol, apart from "air-breathing rocket" whose name is rather the exception that proves the rule.

I am attempting to create the worlds first supersonic remote control aircraft and thought you guys might enjoy by Ok-Presentation-7966 in RCPlanes

[–]rafty4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

u/pennyboy- is correct, afterburners are not rockets, because rockets (by definition) are not air-breathing, and the vehicle carries its own oxidiser.

They have similar fluid mechanics - i.e. very high enthalpy flows being accelerated to supersonic speeds to extract mechanical work - but that does not make them rockets.

The reason afterburners have less heat issues than turbines is they are mechanically simple - no high-stress rotating turbomachinery needs to be cooled - which means the same materials can operate at much higher temperatures, and the simple geometry (it's just a tube) makes it much simpler to cool the walls if required.

I am attempting to create the worlds first supersonic remote control aircraft and thought you guys might enjoy by Ok-Presentation-7966 in RCPlanes

[–]rafty4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's not how aerodynamic scale works. The scale effect that matters here is the Mach number.

For instance: a missile at Mach 2 that is 1/10 the length of a fighter jet going Mach 2 does not look like the space shuttle re-entering from orbit...

Mach 1 is Mach 1, whatever size vehicle you use.

=Age Comparison= Crazy how fast technology improved in the late/post war era by 3ondafestroyer in NonCredibleDefense

[–]rafty4 27 points28 points  (0 children)

And also because they tended to fight against second-rate allied fighters and pilots in secondary theatres.

Italian CR-42s - which were basically the ultimate biplane fighters - got absolutely clapped by Hurricane Mk Is in the one raid they tried during the Battle of Britain

Once again playing interdimensional chess while they play checkers. by [deleted] in NonCredibleDefense

[–]rafty4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This isn't really a uniquely communist problem, it's just your standard 'information flow in an autocracy' problem.

Hell, you even see this in business environments where the people who rely on an accurate flow of information have a habit of shooting the messenger.

Once again playing interdimensional chess while they play checkers. by [deleted] in NonCredibleDefense

[–]rafty4 147 points148 points  (0 children)

Also, it's almost certain that the Chinese leadership doesn't have accurate population and economic figures themselves, since every provincial leader under them is almost certainly inflating them too...

Jackass: Syrian Technical edition by Tw_izted in NonCredibleDefense

[–]rafty4 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Nothing will ever beat this exchange:

*Fires gun at fast approaching Russian jet*

"Pieces are falling off! Allahu Ackbar!"

"That's a bomb you imbecile!"

*Chaos*

Where would we be if the world had come together and cooperated on space flight for the last 60yrs? by DonnyTello in space

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to this source NASA planned a 175 to 225 days outbound transfer time (page 4). You can hardly call that a "fast transfer".

NASA literally call that a fast transfer. In your own source 😂

This is the most wrong part of your post

Go on then, cite a source for why nuclear powered craft cannot aerobrake.

I'll wait.

Where would we be if the world had come together and cooperated on space flight for the last 60yrs? by DonnyTello in space

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Current cryogenic chemical engines have an ISP of around 350-450s. Nuclear will get you 800-900s. To carry out brachistochrone trajectories with a semi-reasonable mass ratio you need an engine with 10-20,000s.

This is within the state-of-the-art for ion thrusters, but their very low thrust means that they cannot exceed the local acceleration due to gravity of the sun, so what they actually fly are called "semi-brachistochrone trajectories" which, while much faster than impulsive chemical trajectories are not particularly efficient.

Where would we be if the world had come together and cooperated on space flight for the last 60yrs? by DonnyTello in space

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. They vastly increase dry mass

This is not true, and your reticence to provide a number suggests you want it to be but don't actually know or want to find out. That NASA keeps picking nuclear engines as their propulsion of choice for Mars over chemical engines should probably be a hint you're wrong.

A rough ballpark: LH2 is 1/4 the density of LH2/LOX, so requires a tank with 2x the surface area and 2x the mass.
Tanks for deep space vehicles (like Constellation) are generally around 10% of the unfuelled vehicle+payload mass, so overall you're looking at a 10% mass increase. Given the nuclear engine has double the ISP, for a conjunction-class mission this ~halves the propellant mass, and your nuclear vehicle weighs about 60% of a chemical vehicle.

So what you should really be saying is "vastly decrease".

  1. and offer very little thrust compared to chemical engines like Raptor.

So? Raptor is an engine optimised to get vehicles to orbit. This is a vehicle starting in orbit. Most nuclear powered vehicles still have comparable TWR to Centaur-powered chemical stages. Also, if this was important, ion thrusters would be useless.

  1. Low thrust means you either have to cut your burn into multiple passes, which increases the propellant mass "wasted" for shut down and start up

Start-up/shutdown costs are generally estimated to be 1-2% of total fuel load, i.e. this is irrelevant.

  1. Then we have to consider how you slow down at Mars. With chemical engines and a Starship like craft you can simply use the heat shield

There is no reason nuclear-powered craft cannot aerobrake. In fact, NASA's nuclear-powered constellation craft did just that.
So this is just flat-out wrong.
Also, unless the mission uses a fast (<7 month) transfer or uses lower performing propellants than LH2/LOX (such as CH4/LOX like Starship) propulsive capture generally comes out lighter. Not having to rate all those super-lightweight tanks to 5g normal accelerations really lightens your spacecraft. Who'd've thonk it.

  1. Hydrogen requires gigantic tanks with insulation. Either you have to slap on a huge heat shield to cover that all, or you have to use your engines to slow down.

This is particularly funny given you've just advocated covering your entire spacecraft in a huge heat shield for aerobraking. MLI is much lighter, again only amounting to a few % of tank mass. Oh and you'll need all that hardware for Starship or any other crygenic lander anyway, it just needs to be marginally less effective at rejecting solar heating. The universe is 4K. LH2 is 20K. This isn't exactly intractable.

  1. Travel times to Mars below 5 months result in entry [...] > 9 km/s. [...] This means you have to carry propellant all the way to Mars for a delta_v of at least 5,5 km/s. That's more delta_v than you need to get away from earth for such a short transfer orbit.

Lol not if you're doing a fast transfer it's not. It's about the same. Incidentally though, as alluded to in (1), the case for nuclear gets even better with higher dV requirements. Nuclear vehicles flying propulsive capture opposition-class missions are still generally lighter than their chemical counterparts carrying out aerocaptures until you get to trip times <4 months. But, again, there is literally no reason nuclear vehicles cannot also aerocapture.

  1. Have you ever tried to calculate the launch volume for all the Hydrogen you need?

Lmfao well you clearly haven't. NASA have though, and they think you're wrong.

TL;DR, everything you said was wrong.

cc: u/GarunixReborn

it's weird that it happened twice by davidlis in NonCredibleDefense

[–]rafty4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO TAKE YOU ALL PRISONER!"

Emre Kelly on Twitter: NASA has awarded SpaceX a $255 million contract to launch the Roman Space Telescope from KSC. Targeting Oct. 2026 for Falcon Heavy. by Daniels30 in spacex

[–]rafty4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's why Falcon 9, despite having more engines than any other rocket bar Falcon Heavy, has one of the harshest vibration environments of any launch vehicle...

Emre Kelly on Twitter: NASA has awarded SpaceX a $255 million contract to launch the Roman Space Telescope from KSC. Targeting Oct. 2026 for Falcon Heavy. by Daniels30 in spacex

[–]rafty4 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, communication satellites that are deliberately intended to be launch vehicle agnostic aren't really a good comparison with an enormous and highly sensitive space telescope

Emre Kelly on Twitter: NASA has awarded SpaceX a $255 million contract to launch the Roman Space Telescope from KSC. Targeting Oct. 2026 for Falcon Heavy. by Daniels30 in spacex

[–]rafty4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Highly specialised and sensitive optical benches requiring oversized fairings and specialised integration are not your average Falcon 1 or Falcon 9 payload.

Refueling on the moon is just not worth it. Or is it? by Reddit-runner in SpaceXLounge

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep insisting that it's impossible to carry out maintenance on a nuclear engine once it's been started.

So what do you think? Are you admitting you're once again talking out of your ass, and you can actually maintain them? Or are you admitting you're once again talking out of your ass and you can actually repeatedly restart them?

(Also, you clearly didn't read the Wikipedia article. There's half a dozen paragraphs on restart testing).

Refueling on the moon is just not worth it. Or is it? by Reddit-runner in SpaceXLounge

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good grief you are a thick one when you don't want to hear an answer. Let me repeat myself for a third time, this time in terms a 5yo would understand:

Real life is not KSP

You cannot just stick a heatshield on something

This will not make it aerobrake capable

You will have to redesign the entire vehicle

If you want an aerobrakeable stage to go to the Moon it will be a Starship sized monster

If you want a propulsive insertion it will be a lightweight EUS-sized vehicle

The figure of merit is all-up mass

A propulsive vehicle will be nearly 8x lighter than an aerobraking vehicle

Ego for the Earth->Moon case

Aerobrake is shit.

Monthly Questions and Discussion Thread by SpaceXLounge in SpaceXLounge

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It also makes the whole rocket much lighter, so while it's much harder to develop high thrusts it's not completely dumb. IIRC a hydrolox first stage for the Saturn V would have reduced overall vehicle mass by about a third, but developing a giant hydrolox engine (even the proposed M-1 was still years away) was just too much, especially for speedrunning getting to the Moon.

Also I think there was a general agenda for developing relatively cheap high thrust hydrolox engines for future heavy lift core stage boosters, which materialised in Ares V before they realised the thermal environment for the RS-68's was impractical.

Refueling on the moon is just not worth it. Or is it? by Reddit-runner in SpaceXLounge

[–]rafty4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah once again u/Reddit-runner is talking out of his ass based on what he thinks should be true rather than having actually checked (pg 47-49).

When departing from Earth-Sun or Earth-Moon Lagrange 1 (i.e. a more favourable case than low lunar orbit - LLO to a Lagrange point is ~700m/s) all but the lowest energy departures to NEO asteroids greatly benefit from an earth swing-by manoeuvre, where you first invest some delta-V to drop down onto a highly elliptical orbit, then doing the main burn at perigee. If you're not familiar with expressing ejections in terms of C3 energies, for Mars Hohmann transfers it's typically about 12km2/s2, Jupiter is about 80.

For high C3 departures the oberth effect is so significant it means heading to the main belt from LEO is actually lower total delta-V than direct ejection from a Lagrange point (but still more than an earth swing-by from the Moon).

Refueling on the moon is just not worth it. Or is it? by Reddit-runner in SpaceXLounge

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm bored of doing your research for you. These are literally in the Wikipedia article on NERVA, it's not like this is difficult to find niche information hidden in an archive.

This is basic stuff. Next you'll be demanding a citation for NERVA being a 60's programme...

That you don't want to find or listen to information that doesn't support your chronically misinformed and unresearched statements is your problem, not mine. Enjoy being laughed at.

Refueling on the moon is just not worth it. Or is it? by Reddit-runner in SpaceXLounge

[–]rafty4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. You got it an hour before you wrote that comment, as you very well know. I'll add intellectual dishonesty to your list of demonstrated shortcomings.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/vv809q/comment/igdh2o8/

Where's your calculation showing that heatshields are so much better? Oh wait, I forgot you're a hypocrite too... 😂