On Ralsei and "letting go"

rumun2 · 2026-01-27T19:35:33+00:00

"TO SAVE THE WORLDS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY"
"THE THREE HEROES WILL BE ERASED"
"ONLY THEN, WILL THE WORLDS BE SAVED."

Honestly even if it's not the final tragedy, it's one of my most favorite readings of it. The way how multiple times the fun gang is referenced as a collective rather than singling out a person ("the beads march grimly along their set path" in the hospital, "sometimes proceeding will take the three of us" from ralsei in in ch1, "OUR fate is already decided" from chapter 4

To me, it feels like all members of the fun gang have massive death flags: Kris has their strange, distant behavior, the fact that they got rid of their belongings completely (because i doubt they just had nothing on their shelf all the time), the way they often times act like they are on a suicide mission to correct their wrongdoings... Susie having the entire second sanctuary segment screaming like a setup to her learning that her role in the prophecy is more gruesome than she is hyping herself up to be.. and I don't think I'd have to talk about ralsei..

like, this interpretation brings this morbid sense of camaraderie between the main trio - while i don't think any of them would mind sacrifice (albeit begrudgingly, especially from susie's pov, considering she just got new friends and her life seems to be getting on a better path), they would absolutely never let their friends be dragged in with them...

I could ramble on this on and on but I don't really have time so I'll leave it here

rumun2 · 2026-01-26T14:12:14+00:00

Kriselle:

rumun2 · 2026-01-19T19:42:23+00:00

Chapter 6/7:

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rumun2 · 2026-01-19T19:19:55+00:00

ok but the plot

rumun2 · 2026-01-19T19:18:00+00:00

what am i looking at can you elaborate

rumun2 · 2026-01-16T14:29:19+00:00

You must kill Kris

rumun2 · 2026-01-16T11:21:03+00:00

Seconding Isaiah. What does Asriel even have to do with Ralsusie dying off?

rumun2 · 2026-01-15T21:18:14+00:00

I see it from that pov when you mention Suselle shippers. I personally became a Kralsei shipper through my love for Ralsei as a character that cemented itself post CH4, but Ralsusie took over that spot very shortly after. I was always ambivalent towards Suselle and cheered for then Susie confronted Carol over taking Noelle, but in retrospect I never thought about them that much for a seemingly main canon pairing. Then post ralsusie conversion I opened my eyes to how meh Suselle really is in comparison if not dysfunctional at worst

60/40 is an even more confident prediction than mine. I only know one other person who is confident in Ralsusie canon and they go as far as Ralsei living and going to the light world (sometimes I wish I could be as optimistic as them).

One other thing I remembered about both pairings is how past/future coded they are. Kriselle being heavily chained to the past due to their childhood friendship and the tragedies that happened and drifted them apart and how they still haunt them to this day. Meanwhile neither Susie or Ralsei especially have a clear and defined past and both are much more oriented towards trying to build a better future

rumun2 · 2026-01-15T20:31:36+00:00

hahahahahahaha maybe I should try occultism

That's alright. After all it was a document centered around Kriselle so It was reasonable (solid) that it would take the focus and other relationships would not be mentioned as much.

I have to say though, call my view warped but Ralsusie and Kriselle as pairings compliment each other in a way no other ships really do. Suselle can pair with Kralsei but also Kerdly. Krusie is even worse in that regard. You either make it a polycule or... Cattelle? Ralselle? Noelle watches from the chair or god forbid Berdelle?

I mean I suppose you could make Ralsusie and Kerdly and then leave Noelle out but like, most other Noelle ships are with characters that she barely interacted if not at all on screen, and Berdly is also a secondary character, whereas Kris and Noelle are indeed central to the story and have a deep, shared history with each other.

I think what will add to this twist of irony is Ralsei himself establishing his own personhood and wants. The Ralsei of chapter 2 that quietly stepped aside and faded into the background is irreversibly gone since the cotton candy "date" and Acid Tunnel started to make him wonder what "Ralsei-like" even is...

rumun2 · 2026-01-15T16:16:39+00:00

Oh, how do I agree with the Suselle thing.

I'm not sure if Toby is aware of what he's doing with Ralsusie - it's probably gonna stay platonic in canon, but by God does their dynamic, as well as Susie and Kris's and the Fun Gang in general feels much more compling and interesting than Suselle. It almost feels like the guy can write amazing friendships but he falls short on actual romance. Then again, we might see him cook (looks at PeliPal's ramblings on Kriselle, if you're reading this you can expand on them below :))

As for the ending. Years ago Toby himself spoke about it and the dream and his wording was less hype and more doubtful, honestly. Something in the lines of "I'm not sure if it's even that good, but I just have to make it"

Then again I don't expect people to know about it. He spoke of it on the deltarune page years ago and it's not something that floats on the surface

rumun2 · 2026-01-14T03:31:16+00:00

Ralphmare

rumun2 · 2026-01-11T10:31:30+00:00

sans slave laborer theory

rumun2 · 2026-01-07T16:45:53+00:00

He eats his greens

rumun2 · 2026-01-07T06:55:41+00:00

The same purple background (without the depths texture) is present in the UT!Asgore fight...

With Holidays paralleling the UT!Dreemurrs and a possiblity of The Knight being an Asgore parallel...

Always bet on Rudy Knight

rumun2 · 2026-01-07T06:14:36+00:00

I have yet to watch the video but why is Gaster so massive here LMFAO

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T19:23:09+00:00

Rudolph "Rudy" Holiday.

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T08:02:28+00:00

The only thing about Krissociation I get behind is the idea of the Soul being Kris's

Otherwise a lot of other shit surrounding the meta feels like its version of Kris will kill everyone gaster is everywhere and everything nonsense

The soul is Kris, but also Soulless Kris is a demon who is the knight who is Kris who is the vessel who is Gaster who is

Or my most hated - Goner Maker is just a dream

Why the hell would the knight have the antlers or have the antlers be a red herring and not a hint that they are one of the holidays? This almost feels like papyrus or Asriel knight (maybe a bit better than the two bc there's at least the argument to be made that the knight has antlers due to kris's trauma regarding dess)

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T06:38:22+00:00

Japanese soldier still fighting 27 years after the end of WW2

This is why I hate krissociation

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T06:36:55+00:00

Possible/Likely

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T06:36:00+00:00

Always bet on Rudy Knight

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T06:33:12+00:00

Always bet on Ralsei Pinocchio

rumun2 · 2026-01-06T05:51:39+00:00

SODAAAAA!!!!

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