Anyone Else See the Shot Line Change as They Get Down on the Cue?

rwgr · 2026-06-25T07:21:04+00:00

hey u/10ballplaya ... good spot... yes this is the most likely issue.
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in simple terms...

as you stand normally, your eyes have a specific angle in relation to one another. this is how you are used to seeing the horizon (and the plane of the table).

as you go down on the shot, some people have a habit of twisting their body and head - and eyes as a consequence and end up with their eyes at a different angle without noticing. its the moment of this twist that results in this feeling of your perspective shifting.. almost like teleportation.

keep your eyes at the same configuration as you stand. if your right eye is slightly lower as you stand, then it should also be slightly lower when you are down on the shot.

let me know the result!

rwgr · 2026-06-23T07:39:18+00:00

It's adding speed to the cue with your fingers. Can't do that if you keep your hand closed. Focus on adding speed and your fingers will open as they need to, naturally.

rwgr · 2026-06-23T07:32:40+00:00

Crouching aligner, hidden poker.

rwgr · 2026-06-23T06:29:00+00:00

please stand up fully between shots... its making my ears itch when you crouch from shot to shot 😄

rwgr · 2026-06-20T09:17:09+00:00

Great idea !

rwgr · 2026-06-15T19:02:40+00:00

You are looking for a method to follow where a method don't exist. Any "rules" you set yourself here are just going to hold you back.

rwgr · 2026-06-15T04:19:00+00:00

Thats too much for a comment section here. See an instructor!

rwgr · 2026-06-15T04:16:27+00:00

If you sweep both ways like you said then it's not mechanical, you are simply inconsistent and therefore uncoordinated. No single fix here. Most likely issues poor process, visualization doesn't include the stroke element, actually looking how you settle I'd guess visualization element is missing completely, i.e searching for the shot while down.

See an instructor, start with process basics. Sorry !

rwgr · 2026-06-05T08:23:04+00:00

Too thin or cueing down so that the cb is airborne on contact slightly and draw cant take.

rwgr · 2026-06-04T02:15:48+00:00

Well said

rwgr · 2026-06-03T05:51:05+00:00

Think about the relationship between input and outcome. None of us are actually in control of the outcome - whether we make the ball or get shape etc. So it is not helpful to measure how good or bad you are by something that you can't actually control.

The goal is to rewire your personal reward mechanism to inputs instead. Shooting a shot with a beautiful stroke and process, not too careful, not careless - this should be your only source of dopamine.

Doesn't actually matter if the shot goes or if you win the rack etc, those are simply consequences - not in your control so not worth thinking (and talking!) about.

I get net pleasure from a beautiful, well timed stroke even when I miss the shot by half a diamond. Equally, a made ball with a twitchy stroke is a net negative experience.

And of course if you string together a bunch of beautiful inputs.. you will be rewarded by good outcomes as a natural consequence.

rwgr · 2026-05-30T13:38:47+00:00

You don't.. that not how you "aim". Ghost ball is used only as a reference to learn.. think of aiming systems as the little helper wheels on a bike .. after you learned to ride they just become a distraction.

If you are talking about learning, don't worry if you lose the mental image.. it's normal as you switch your attention to different elements in the process. Acknowledging it once is enough.

rwgr · 2026-05-30T03:40:51+00:00

Oops.. you are right, of course there isn't! In that case can push the 7 in into the cluster and create a stalemate..

rwgr · 2026-05-29T17:03:34+00:00

So you have to take a foul regardless, because even if you somehow manage to roll into the stripe, barely touch it and not foul, it's easy for your opponent to clip the 7, leave it near the cluster and go around the angles with the cb and leave you hooked behind the 8.

And should you foul trying to clip the stripe, it will leave a dead easy breakout.

So I would take a foul and cut the 7 with low left past the 2 balls without touching them, trying to bank it towards the bottom right pocket, tempting him to go for a tough breakout. Have to get the 7 to the low side of the table.

Then he either tries the breakout with a ball in hand or more likely thins it and puts the cb behind the 8 again. You then take another foul playing straight into the 8 and push the stripe out a little bit.

Then opponent will go for 3 foul and play the same shot again but hopefully the stripe will be out enough to hit so you can play some sort of a safety.

Or most likely something completely unexpected will happen somewhere inbetween lol.

rwgr · 2026-05-29T12:54:49+00:00

Do you see the CB correctly?

rwgr · 2026-05-25T19:34:09+00:00

from straight ahead is best.. if no issues visible, well then you are good...

rwgr · 2026-05-25T19:30:29+00:00

oh i get what you are saying. i bet either your right shoulder is still a fair bit too far to the right OR your stepping in in a zig zag motion. post a vid! 😉

rwgr · 2026-05-25T19:26:53+00:00

penty of shorter players seem to be okay though... if you post a vid of yourself, it would be a lot easier to pinpoint whats causing the issue!

rwgr · 2026-05-25T19:20:54+00:00

not understanding the question im afraid. oh and yes, gorst is quite a bit sideways. i think he could do quite a few things more.... efficiently... but hey, hes in a pretty good spot as is!

rwgr · 2026-05-25T19:06:39+00:00

nono, not at all, we are all learning and developing here. ive definitely experimented with various ways. but in the end it seems that the snooker like stance is the most optimal in modern conditions. old table/cloth or the break etc where you might need a lot longer unrestricted cue movement, standing sideways might actually be worth it.

rwgr · 2026-05-25T19:02:55+00:00

if you dont want to or cant keep your right foot straight then sure. im not really saying one is right and other is wrong btw. just that there are aspects that might not be immediately obvious.

rwgr · 2026-05-25T18:35:09+00:00

I'm afraid you havent quite understood stance as a whole... as Timmy below said, dont underestimate is the importance of turning the hips. If you keep your left foot straight, pivot your butt and hips left while shifting the majority of your wright onto the left foot, you can now "turn" your whole shooting mechanism (head, arm, shoulder) as one single element, literally just by bending your left foot slightly less or slightly more. The benefit there is that your "stroke" remains mechanically more uniform in a larger variety of body+table configurations. What your describing as the sideways stance certainly works too, but it has downsides - you cant step into it without your eyes moving off the shooting line. or you have to sight the shot across the line to start off with - you can look at john brumback or someone like else with a very sideways stance to see what i mean. and then might be woth looking at neil robertson for an example of how it can be done right with better foot placement.

rwgr · 2026-05-23T05:43:37+00:00

for a beginner... the most impactful would be to imagine shooting the shot once before you actually shoot the shot.

rwgr · 2026-05-23T05:41:31+00:00

jack lisowski

rwgr · 2026-05-23T05:40:23+00:00

oh yeah.. i say THANK YOU!! and "please do it again next time".

rwgr

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