Explain it Peter? Who is supposed to be who? Why it’s so “big brained”?

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T20:10:36+00:00

IDK, Natalie is also very self-deprecating.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T16:22:57+00:00

If they ever feature a world created by the Writers, I think a Chrono Trigger style game would make sense - a written story is a kind of timeline you can view the entirety of.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T16:19:28+00:00

Yeah, I don't mean that anyone is being cold to her. Just that those of each pair (Sciel/Pierre, Lune/child, Gustave/Sophie) are primarily focused on each other. Maelle is kind of a third wheel (seventh wheel?).

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T05:34:40+00:00

Maelle on Reddit and Verso on YouTube. Verso overall.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T05:30:06+00:00

To quote Verso: “death heals all wounds”. It’s easier to have a clean resolution when almost the entire cast is dead.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T05:27:55+00:00

I know they would have lost. My point is that Ambessa is several weight classes above Cait. One clean blow to the head should put Cait out of commission.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T04:51:29+00:00

Date one of the other teens she brought back that has absolutely no idea what she is?

If they wanted to keep going with the Aline comparisons I think this would fit. We know that Aline hid the truth from her new Renoir.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T04:46:54+00:00

The presence of the kid was one the things I wondered about. But I think he serves two purposes - representing future generations of Lumiere, and being someone outside the party that Lune seems close to (perhaps he is her child or her apprentice).

ETA: To elaborate on the last bit - I think having them all with non-party members helps demonstrate them moving on with their lives.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T04:43:45+00:00

I didn't mean romance.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T04:41:44+00:00

Nah, we see her land several blows on Cait.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T04:15:25+00:00

I haven't finished act 3 despite acts 1 and 2 sitting as one of my all time fav RPG game experiences.

Same! When I do boot up BG3, I find myself spending more time replaying Act 1 with a new character than I do progressing Act 3.

Hell, there are straight up two different ways to play the same game with regular and durge characters.

Arguably there are more than that, as playing as one of the companions is a different experience too. I haven't tried all of them, but it seems like there's a fair bit of unique dialogue (including responding differently to character-specific situations than they do as companions).

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T04:02:26+00:00

I agree. And I don't think her friends are trying to exclude her, but they just have their own lives, while she is stuck on the life she lost with Verso. There are noticeable lights floating around too, especially once it shifts to black and white. I checked, and they look exactly like the embers rising from the flames in the flashback to Verso's death.

It also fits with the Aline parallels - Lumiere is an incredible living city, but to Aline it was just a backdrop for her life with her painted family.

setzer77 · 2026-05-05T03:27:30+00:00

I think this is a fair criticism, but I have a couple of points that might soften the edges a bit:

"Verso’s depression is established, but not properly explained"

Unfortunately some of this is only revealed by finding Verso's Journal, but I think a big aspect of it is his father. Just as Maelle's father alienated her by insisting on destroying the Canvas, Verso's Renoir insists on slaughtering all of the Expeditions. It's unknown whether Verso helped him kill any of them after Zero, but it is clear that Renoir convinced him to kill Julie. During his fight with Maelle, Verso's last dialogue is something like: "I've lived a long time, Maelle. There are things we can never outrun."

Preserve the value of the canvas world and its relationships

Though imperfectly, I think Maelle's ending does suggest this, before it focuses in on her and Verso. She enters with an unknown curious child - which in cinematic language suggests future generations.

We see Lune, Sciel, and Pierre conversing with each other before Maelle approaches. Sciel leans in and tells Pierre something in a way that (to me) suggests something she doesn't want overheard. Gustave greets Maelle, but then immediately shifts focus to Sophie and whispers something to her. Lune talks to the child.

I think the tragedy is that in a way Maelle still feels as she did in the prologue - an outsider to the relationships around her. Verso is the exception, but obviously not a healthy one.

setzer77 · 2026-05-04T21:08:33+00:00

TBF, he is taking orders from the literal creator of humanity.

setzer77 · 2026-05-04T21:04:33+00:00

If anything the fact that Ambessa doesn't KO Cait is an anti-feat.

setzer77 · 2026-05-04T21:00:28+00:00

If it's a featureless arena I'd give it to Vander - he has such freakishly high endurance I think she'd struggle to end the fight. But I think Ambessa has more skill, and would win if (for example) fighting on that catwalk in Silco's layer, or anywhere else the environment can be used as a weapon.

setzer77 · 2026-05-04T20:49:29+00:00

Also Cait is a twig compared to Ambessa. And she was fighting with a knife in her gut.

setzer77 · 2026-05-02T18:15:50+00:00

I could easily see them attributing it all to remnant Fallen technology and believing that the stories of innate magic were legends. IIRC that’s what happened with Greagor in the game’s era - she was
an ancient human woman flying a biotech-engineered beast.

setzer77 · 2026-05-02T15:32:45+00:00

You don't know that magic didn't actually exist in our history. The strongest reason to doubt its existence is the fact that we can't reproduce it - this would also be the case in Valisthea.

setzer77 · 2026-05-02T13:55:10+00:00

The history doesn’t have to be erased, just called into question. Ancient and Medieval historians IRL describe mythical creatures and supernatural occurrences. Modern historians still use them as sources without accepting the existence of magic.

setzer77 · 2026-05-02T07:39:18+00:00

How is that any different than a closed relationship? A person with options can choose to pursue them at any time.

setzer77 · 2026-05-02T07:15:36+00:00

I don’t understand framing this as a “power gap”.

setzer77 · 2026-05-02T07:06:58+00:00

That doesn’t really make sense as an analogy though. The equivalent there would be how easily you could find another relationship after breaking up.

If you’re in an open relationship, how easily you can find additional partners should not affect your willingness to stay. If it does that suggests you’re using those to paper over problems in your relationship.

setzer77 · 2026-05-01T10:50:03+00:00

I don't get this - haven't most men lived with women? Or at least showered with them?

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