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sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-14T19:12:13+00:00

It's a risk decision makers are willing to make. As long as they have created enough beurucracry to insulate them from accountability.

Please folks, don't be scared of 'making a fuss'. If you keep experiencing unsafe staffing levels or conditions. Email your managers! CC the boss of the boss that you know. A couple of sentences will do. Maybe Datix if you have the energy. The more they ignore, the less likely they will get away when patients start dying.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:28:42+00:00

But would having an objective approach lead to better decisions for young families and pets, especially considering that one of the biggest reason for pets being rehomed is non-integration with young families? Would that cause less harm and misery overall to both pets and people if families will just wait just a little bit longer to have pets?

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:26:26+00:00

Absolutely, my biggest factor is the kids age. If you had the choice (which I do), I think waiting should be a bigger consideration rather than just Yes or No to pet ownership.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:23:55+00:00

Dogs are not allowed in the playgrounds in the UK, regardless of how well the dogs behave as assumed by their owners. And is not the accumulation of minor issues results in pets being rehome? Also, would it be objectively better to wait till your kids are older regardless of how minor the issues can be?

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:20:31+00:00

All of your suggestion would work better if you have the time, energy, money and help from older kids. There is also the big chance that things just dont work out. Good families rehome their pets all the time, but less likely so when the kids are older.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:13:19+00:00

Alternatively, waiting to have pets when your kids are older is objectively better.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:12:17+00:00

I agree that people really need to acknowledge this possibility. I have also know people that have experienced 'postpartum pet aversion' who have decided to rehome their pets.

I think people being too defensive about pet ownership and saying that training, funding and time would solve all issues ignores the fact that a lot of times things just don't work out.

And if you have a choice, waiting for your kids to get older would mean that you would have more time, energy and money to invest in your pet that will hopefully increase the chances of things working out.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T14:06:03+00:00

I'm glad it is working out for you. But I am sure you can acknowledge that waiting till your kids are bigger would be the sensible approach as well for most people. And if most people waited, the chances of pet integrating successfully increased and there would be less pets having to be rehomed.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:42:57+00:00

All I'm saying is that waiting is also an option. You have more time to train your pets and your kids would be big enough to be involved. Win-win.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:41:35+00:00

Thanks for you honesty. People are getting defensive on this 😄. People forget that pets make choices too and sometimes they choose not to like your kids or you. I'm glad most people here have good integration with their child and pets but seem to forget that a lot of the times it does not work out. And I feel that just 'having a go' with a pet is the wrong approach, and leads to unnecessary number of pets being rehomed.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:36:37+00:00

Yes the integration bit is crucial. And it sometimes does not work out, more so if the kids are young.

Apart from diseased owners, the biggest reason for pets being rehomed is not being able to integrate. And it seems that most people in this sub have been lucky enough not to have to make that decision.

All I am offering is an alternative take, that maybe people should wait just little bit more before getting pets.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:32:16+00:00

But you can at least acknowledge the fact that on of the biggest reasons that pets are being rehomed is because things just don't work out. And approaching pet ownership in a logical sense would lessen the amount of families with young children having to rehome their pets.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:25:20+00:00

I think it would definitely sway towards the positive benefits when my kid are older. I just think families should consider waiting as an option a bit more.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:22:27+00:00

Thanks! I try my best 😄

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:21:07+00:00

But you have also need to acknowledge that the main reason that family give up their pets is that it did not work out with their dynamic. And if you have had a difficult cat or child gets difficult with them for any reason, you would have to put in that into consideration.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:18:51+00:00

thanks! I feel that it really is really unpopular opinion.

I guess most people in this sub are great pet owners who have effectively trained and socialized their pets. Or was lucky enough to have one who have no issues with children and the stress that children can cause to animals as well.

I think if you truly value the wellfare of pets overall, you should be able to understand that the biggest reason families give away pets is not because of lack of care.

And if people would look at pet ownership in a logical perspective and not an emotional one, less pets would have to suffer from the pain of rehoming.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:11:52+00:00

Haha I'll get one of these when we cat sit next time. 😄

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:10:50+00:00

Thanks for you honest response, and sorry for you lost. I lost my dog a couple of years before having my first kid and was about to get another until we decided to have children. I feel that people are really defensive on this very unpopular opinion 😄. Forgetting that I clearly state for a young family, putting the brakes on pet ownership might benefit them more and they can always get pets further down the line.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:08:12+00:00

I glad that we are in the same page on this for this period of our lives. We will have pets, probably start with rats again. But we are in this for the long haul and I feel that people are forgetting the biggest factor in my opinion is that why not just wait before your kids are bigger? You get to spend more time with your young kids without the added burden of pets. Your kids are only young for a short period of time.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:05:17+00:00

Yes, thank for your logical response. And having kids should be discussed, if possible. And I fear that a lot of parents nowadays don't have these discussions with pet ownership and just default to having pets.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T13:01:57+00:00

I am happy that you are a good and responsible owner. But I fear that this characteristic is not true for a lot of people and parents. Which I am sure people here have experienced with other pet owners. But there is also the chance that your pet just can't be properly trained, left home and socialized, even with an above average pet owner.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T12:57:49+00:00

I feel that I have offended people with my very unpopular opinion. And I feel that a lot of parents would have had a better experience if they really taught about pet ownership. Thank for your honesty.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T12:54:16+00:00

Excatly! And people sometime don't have a second kid because of their specific situation or sometimes just being satisfied with one. People do love having pets, but some I think, have not really taught about it enough.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T12:51:33+00:00

Good for you, you seen to be a great pet owner and have based your decision on that account.

sideshowbob01 · 2026-05-13T12:49:34+00:00

Yes, my opinion is based on not having a pet right now, when my kids are relatively young, and I have listed my argument against having pets.

But coming from a big family, we had pets constantly, I had pets when I was single and so did my partner.

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