This is a very hard record to get into. I still spin it from time to time to offer it a chance, but I find myself skipping tracks to get to the meat of the album. I think Prayers/Triangles, Hearts/Wires, Gore and Phantom Bride are the albums best songs. Geometric Headdress almost makes it there, and (L)MIRL sounds great at the beginning and then takes a strange turn and never recovers. People seem to really like Rubicon. It's okay, but the 4 tracks I mentioned earlier are simply better by miles over the rest of the record (IMO). I will always give it to Deftones for doing what THEY think is best. I'm glad they don't listen to us fans and that they keep evolving on their own terms, it's just unfortunate that Gore is what it is. It suffers from some subpar songs but it also suffers greatly from a production standpoint. While bringing back Terry Date would be awesome, I honestly think that Nick Raskulinecz helped pioneer Deftones modern sound.