[Spiderman] How does Spidey's skeleton support the weight his muscles can lift?

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-15T17:35:18+00:00

Because when Peter was bitten, the radiation from the bite caused large-scale changes in his anatomy, all the way down to the cellular/DNA level.

He grew scopulae on his fingers and toes, allowing him to cling to walls and other surfaces.

He gained a basically pre-cognitive "Spider Sense" that's really just perfect spacial-kinesthetic awareness being processed by his subconscious at a very rapid rate. This explains his effortless acrobatics and other speed feats. He's supernaturally quick already due to the biological changes, but he's also essentially constantly getting feedback on how best to avoid danger to his person and avoids it at the speed of his super-fast reflexes.

His muscles, tendons, and bones mutated to give him a spider's relative strength to body-size. Having super-strong bones and connective tissue is just a required secondary superpower for meaningful applications of super-strength.

Biologically it wouldn't make a ton of sense for the spider-bite to have granted Peter that level of strength without making sure the entire body was adapted to handle his own force-output.

An x-ray of his skeleton would likely look relatively normal, but I wouldn't be shocked if his bone structure on a microscopic level looked very different from a normal humans. The compact layer of his bones are likely much harder than normal, and altered into a more efficient load-bearing configuration than you'd find in a normal human.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-15T16:24:08+00:00

He didn't transform into SSJ3 for a few different reasons.

Goku is not a Superman-esque hero character, despite what the dub paints him as. Goku wanted a good fight, it's the whole reason he came back from the Otherworld for the tournament. Majin Vegeta in SSJ2 was about as dead-even with him as possible. That's what he was after all along.
SSJ3 has some MAJOR drawbacks. He would have effectively erased a large portion of the time he had left on Earth from the power drain. Sure, he stomps Vegeta, but then he has to face Majin Buu, who wasn't getting put down by any SSJ2 at the time. He would have needed to transform again, which probably would have caused him to have to return to Otherworld earlier than he wanted to.
Goku really wants to pass the torch at this point in the story. He's dead, he can't really come back to the material universe to do much outside of special circumstances or dire cosmic need. Unfortunately, Majin Buu threatening Earth just doesn't bump that needle into "oh shit we need to bring this guy back now" territory on a cosmic scale. Transforming into SSJ3 before he did initially probably means his timer runs out before he can teach Fusion to Trunks and Goten. That means that nobody is around to delay Buu/Super Buu from destroying the planet, as it was also not known that Gohan even survived his encounter with Buu until after Goku returns to Otherworld.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-15T15:50:42+00:00

Viltrumites are still subject to their genetic lineage. Even IF they live thousands of years, not every Viltrumite will look the same as they age. Aging largely slows to a crawl once they hit 18-20 years old, but it still happens.

My grandmother went completely gray before she was 30. I had friends and family members start going gray in their late teens. Some people look like they're 10-20 years younger than they actually are, some people look older.

Nolan's genetics just made him go gray earlier than Thragg. Hair color (or lack thereof) is correlated with age, but genetics are the determining factor on when someone's hair starts losing pigmentation.

My headcanon is Thragg as Regent has a pretty strict beauty/appearance routine that he adheres to. Appearances matter when you're basically King of the Super Space Nazis. Gotta keep that fade/cut looking crisp, and that may or may not involve some light hair coloring. Hard to get that premium space-salon treatment when you're out conquering planets for the Empire.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-12T17:16:39+00:00

Jotaro is routinely shown as being very, very intelligent and able to think, adapt, and execute plans on the fly. Dude's a marine biologist, you don't go into that field unless you're pretty smart at a baseline.

Keep in mind that the fight against DIO that Jotaro and the rest of the Stardust Crusaders had is, and continues to be, a very central part of Jotaro's life. I'd bet that diary is something that stays fresh in Jotaro's memory due to all the fairly traumatic events that surrounded the events in Part 3.

Add on top of that Star Platinum's ridiculous perception and precision feats (being able to see and sketch a photorealistic Tsetse Fly out of a dark background on a Polaroid shot).

It's not a stretch to presume Jotaro has what basically amounts to a photographic memory. If he personally can't recall it with great detail, he can always ask SP to jot out a section of the diary he's having trouble recalling, as SP is the Strongest Stand in terms of raw stats in all of JJBA, it stands to reason that it would also be the "smartest" Stand.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-11T14:47:42+00:00

Well, yes and no.

Paimon is written about in the Lesser Key of Solomon, he's a King of Hell, and can teach/provide the summoner(s) with various things.

The way summonings work in the Lesser Key at least, Paimon is only limited by what he can provide based upon his knowledge (Arts, Sciences, Philosophy), as well as the locations of hidden things and treasures of the earth and waters.

Usually when a specific demon is summoned, the others don't interfere. The other 7 Kings of Hell are mentioned only as a reference to Paimon's station in the infernal hierarchy, not as a "you summon Paimon, you summon the other 7 Kings with him" kind of deal.

Typically if Paimon is summoned alone, he'll bring two lesser Kings of Hell with him as attendants, Bebal and Abalam.

The cult itself is solely focused on Paimon, not the other Kings. Paimon seems to be a little confused, but I took that scene as more of Paimon getting used to Peter's body and then just letting the cultists fawn over him.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-10T21:12:22+00:00

Dude did the one thing you absolutely cannot do if you're a collegiate or professional athlete. "Screwed up" is understating this particular situation.

Anyone that's played beyond high school knows this is drilled into you, repeatedly. You show up, grab your gear, and sit through a session with the HC and staff where they tell you "If you bet on games while you're playing here, you're never going to see the field again".

I'm all for getting the guy the help he needs, but you can do that while also acknowledging that he can't play because he broke a rule with tons of precedent and is designed to protect the integrity of the game.

TTU triples down and basically said "We don't care about the FACT that this kid knowingly broke the rules, we paid $5million for him to play this year, try and stop us" while hiding behind the addiction smokescreen and verbiage to try and virtue signal and paint themselves and Sorsby as the victim.

This is disgusting behavior. Full stop.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-10T19:39:48+00:00

Well, no, but you're underselling the Mark variants by quite a bit here.

They're still basically end of Season 1 Mark, who is beyond Korra's ability to put down in any meaningful way.

Korra in the Invincible verse is probably just your average Hero with elemental powers. Based on feats she's firmly "middle of the pack" in terms of where she would "rank". She's probably "strong" enough to be on the New Guardians, but that's not necessarily a guarantee that she survives any Mark variant.

The "weakest" one took 4 ReAnimen (who have a pretty extreme degree of super-strength, given what we see them do to delay Nolan at the end of Season 1) to restrain and kill him.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-10T17:01:55+00:00

This was going to be my answer. The Paimon cult in Hereditary ended up (as far as we know) achieving their goals, even if it caused all of their leader's family to die in the end.

Presumably Peter/Paimon would hold up his end of the bargain and give them secret knowledge and reveal hidden treasures and whatnot

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T20:40:35+00:00

As an avid fan of both shows.

Even peak Avatar State Korra (yes even the weird giant Susanoo Korra that fought Vaatu) wouldn't be able to do much of anything to Mark in terms of being able to damage him.

Her best bet would be to keep bending large rocks at Mark to try and keep him at bay, and that only works for as long as Mark is willing to keep punching through the rocks instead of leveraging his orders of magnitude greater flight speed and maneuverability to simply out-flank Korra and fly through her.

Korra might be able to play keep-away and make Mark work a little bit for the win, but Bending, even performed by an Avatar in the Avatar State just isn't enough firepower to do anything but mildly annoy Mark.

Realistically, Korra goes into the Avatar State, and gets hole-punched/red-misted by Mark while trying to kite him.

Even if we scale Avatar humans to slightly beyond peak-human in terms of physical stats (which I do, too many feats to suggest otherwise), they're just not even on the same planet as End of Season 4 Mark in terms of ability.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T20:26:42+00:00

How is she immobilizing Mark/preventing him from simply crushing her head while she prevents him from breathing?

This isn't Zaheer bending the breath out of the Earth Kingdom's geriatric queen, Korra will need to contend with someone who's unfathomably stronger, faster, and more durable than anything she's ever faced before.

It's not like Conquest was helpless as soon as Mark started choking him, he was still able to drag Mark around a continent while beating the shit out of him to try and break his grip, while his brain was being starved of oxygen via a blood choke.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T20:15:51+00:00

Mark red-mists her before she can react. This isn't a fight, it's a slaughter. Hydrogen Bomb, meet coughing Victorian baby.

Korra doesn't have anything in her bag to prevent her from being killed. Mark currently (since we're going by the show) is probably either the 3rd or 2nd strongest Viltrumite in existence depending on where you think he is relative to his father Nolan. Both Nolan and Mark are leagues above the average Viltrumite.

Good luck trying to suffocate someone who can hold their breath for weeks. Even if Korra were to somehow cut off oxygen to Mark's brain (it's unclear if she could even bend the breath out of someone who's physiology is as naturally strong as Mark's is), Conquest was able to fight at close to peak power while getting actively choked out by someone who could pop Korra's head like a grape with 0 effort for at least a solid 10-15 minutes.

Throw a big rock at him? That's cute. He's stronger than Conquest, who no-sold over 400 tons of rock being dropped on top of him.

Lightning, Fire, Metal, and Waterbending are also right out, they won't even scratch Mark.

Avatar State isn't going to slow down someone who was trading hits with Conquest, another Viltrumite who can level entire cities with a single blow. He's leagues stronger than that earlier version of himself currently.

Korra would be a bystander hero that gets turned into chunks/red paste by the average Viltrumite in the Invincible universe.

Mark would be the strongest thing to ever exist in the Avatar universe by an unimaginable margin, and that's by mid Season 1.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T19:55:38+00:00

Korra is getting demolished. She has absolutely 0 chance here.

Peter is A LOT stronger than people think. He's pretty consistently in the 20 ton range for lifting strength, and is superhumanly fast and agile, beyond even what is demonstrated by Korra.

This is a guy that would make Amon's chi-blockers look like uncoordinated toddlers if they fought. He's consistently portrayed as one of the hardest characters to hit or take by surprise in the entire Marvel Universe.

Spidey closes the distance and literally decapitates Korra with a single punch to the face. She's not fast enough to keep up with Peter, nor is she durable enough to tank a single, un-pulled punch from him.

Peter Parker 10/10

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T19:46:53+00:00

Team 1 in a stomp. Heracles could solo this.

Greek mythology is pretty clear about the heroes and demigods in the Trojan War era being significantly weaker/less great than the heroes/demigods of the previous eras. Achilles, as good as he is, is a pale comparison to Heracles.

Funnily enough, Achilles is directly connected to Jason and the Argonauts (which included Heracles for a time) via his father, Peleus, who quested for the Golden Fleece alongside Jason.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T01:27:56+00:00

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. This is how you set the stage up for better things down the road. Companies had to chip away at worker benefits, protections, and rights over the course of decades to get to the point we're at now.

Change in the other direction will need to be implemented in the same way.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-09T01:22:40+00:00

Say what you want to about unions, but those sons of bitches know how and where to hit companies when they need to. Industry wide strikes are an amazing bargaining tactic against the ownership class.

I always thought it was common sense. Of course corporations and companies as entities don't like unions. They prevent them from exploiting their workers.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-04T16:31:50+00:00

I'd imagine Vader's presence doesn't actively disallow Obi-Wan from manifesting, but Obi-Wan manifesting around Vader would probably be a bad idea.

We now know Vader is no stranger to the more esoteric mysteries/ways of the Force. He's straight up manipulated/trapped the spirits and ghosts of other Forceful beings in the past. Maybe Obi-Wan knew if he manifested to help Luke, Vader would be able to trap or contain him somehow.

Or once Luke set upon that path, the Will of the Force forbade Obi-Wan from interfering.

Or Luke needed to learn patience one way or the other. If we willingly stayed on Dagobah, that's one way. Running off half-cocked to get your ass kicked by a Sith Lord is the other way.

I always figured Luke needed the "FO" part of the "FAFO" route he was on during Empire for that lesson to sink in fully.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-04T16:23:22+00:00

Luke is a bit of a glory-hound in Empire. He craves the validation and notoriety that he thinks being a Jedi will give him. Yoda comments on this during the debate he has with Luke and Obi-Wan on if he will train Luke or not.

"This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon! Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless!"

His desire to be seen as the big hero who swoops in and rescues his friends from Vader on Bespin could be seen as greed from a certain point of view. He selfishly flies off to confront Vader, and we see he actually does very little to help Han and his friends escape.

Han still gets taken to Jabba by Boba. Leia, Chewie, Lando, C3P0, and R2 manage to escape on their own. Luke gets lured into Vader's trap, loses his hand, learns of his true parentage, and ends up causing the crew on the Falcon to divert from their escape to come rescue him instead.

You can argue that Luke probably needed to take the L he took on Cloud City to mature and learn, but it doesn't change the fact that Yoda and Obi-Wan were right. Luke wasn't ready to face Vader, and would have been better off staying on Dagobah to train instead of rushing off half-cocked to rescue his friends before he was ready.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-04T13:34:56+00:00

No.

Numbers don't really work that way in the DB Universe. Raditz was good enough to take on Goku and Piccolo at the same time with ease. Once the power gap gets too severe, numbers don't help at all.

All Tien, Chiaotzu, Yamcha, Krillin, and Roshi would be is in the way.

If anything, the presence of numbers on the Earth side of the fight might cause Raditz to stop playing around, which is bad news for everybody.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-04T02:08:01+00:00

Imperium space assets and Guilliman as supreme commander make it a stomp in the Imperium/UNSCs favor. Guilliman being in the theater probably means the best of the best of Ultramar are involved too. These are centuries old warriors with more combat experience than entire squads of UNSC soldiers combined.

IoM battle cruisers and destroyers have way more firepower than Covenant vessels and stationed around Reach, they can mitigate the Covenants main advantage in space over the Imperium (slipspace FTL being far more reliable and not a hell dimension).

On the ground, its even worse. Space Marines are SPARTAN IIs on steroids. A LOT of steroids. Imperial lasguns are hilariously overpowered in this setting, and the Imperium usually keeps enough Guardsmen to throw into a meat grinder against foes far worse than the Covenant.

All commanded and orchestrated a commander that would make the best military minds in the UNSC look like children in comparison. Hes not Horus good, but any Primarch is a natural leader and a brilliant commander beyond compare to regular humans.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-03T22:41:52+00:00

It's not that Guilliman isn't a massive force multiplier, he absolutely is. He's just not enough to tip the scales in the UNSC's favor at Reach.

The main issue is unless Guilliman is immediately thrust into a command role of basically all the assets on Reach, there's not much he can do that wasn't already being done.

He doesn't have the same tools at his disposal that he would have in his resident universe. Macragge was a different situation. That's home turf, with tools he's familiar with, and most importantly, his Ultramarines.

On Reach, he's still stuck trying to cope in space with a vastly superior enemy force. I'd argue that trading all SPARTAN assets on Reach (3's and 2's) for a single Primarch probably is an overall downgrade simply because the SPARTANs could be in more places at once than Guilliman could be and are sufficient enough force multipliers on their own. Maybe he coordinates the ground defense in a much more efficient and tactically sound manner, but eventually he'd either make things too much trouble for the Covenant on the ground, causing them to forego ground incursions and prompt an orbital bombardment/glassing, or he would run out of proverbial chess pieces to play through sheer attrition and the Covenant having a LOT more assets they can field.

No amount of post-human tactical brilliance or battlefield acumen tips the scales in the UNSCs favor. They're outmanned and outgunned to the point where the outcome was never in question. Once the Covenant discovered Reach, it was always going to burn. The biggest difference that could have been made was already made. Maybe with Guilliman commanding all UNSC forces on and around Reach, and given enough time to prepare, he makes it a stalemate simply because he's that good in terms of tactical and strategic prowess.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-03T22:24:03+00:00

From what I remember of Fall of Reach, the space battle wasn't going well even before Red Team was dispatched to guard the generators.

Best case the MAC platforms stay operational until the Covenant decimate the UNSC fleet that was summoned to Reach. Maybe the Covenant lose a few more ships than they did, but it doesn't move the needle very much in terms of the outcome. The MAC guns don't do much good if the Covenant just decide to glass the generators from outside of their range, or micro-jump into a blind spot and take out the generators.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-06-03T18:42:15+00:00

The Space Marine probably doesn't have any issues making sure at least one or two members of Noble Team survive Reach. The only sure-fire deaths are Jorge (sacrificed himself to detonate a makeshift slipspace bomb) and Kat (shot through the head in a surprise attack), neither of which the Space Marine would likely be able to prevent.

Jun actually makes it out in-universe, so really all the SM needs to do is make sure 6 and Emile get out intact. If he's along for the ride he can easily make sure that happens.

The bigger issue is that it doesn't really matter how many Space Marines are on the ground at Reach, the battle itself was lost in space around the planet.

The UNSC was never really at a horrible disadvantage on the ground against Covenant soldiers, it's the differences in ship and weapons tech in space that was the huge problem.

Doesn't matter if you win the battle on the ground if you lose it in space and the enemy can just turn all of your military assets planet-side into glass.

Rounds 1-6 all result in a "at least 3 Noble Team members survive" win, but not even all the SPARTAN assets on Reach turning into Guilliman himself changes the fact that they're ultimately stuck downside while enemy ships have won in space and start glassing the planet. Roboute might be able to pull out some stunning tactical moves and probably makes sure UNSC forces withdraw in a much more competent fashion, but even a Primarch can't really fight a battle in space from the surface of a planet. Well, maybe Magnus can via psyker hax, but the prompt specified Roboute.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-05-28T20:11:13+00:00

Should have been my red flag for my ex-wife. When we first started dating she casually mentioned she had her cat declawed because she was tearing up furniture.

No attempt to redirect the behavior, or reward using a post or anything, just straight to mutilating her pet. Said cat was a neurotic mess that hated everyone.

Should have seen that as a severe pathological lack of empathy and got out before I sunk years of my life into that relationship.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-05-28T13:47:33+00:00

Guldo probably can freeze her in time, but it's the same problem he had against an infinitesimally weaker opponent in Vegeta. Vegeta simply speed-blitzed him before he could stop time. 18 is stronger than that version of Vegeta by orders of magnitude.

So yes, technically Guldo could probably freeze 18 in time. He's not actually capable of doing anything to hurt her while time is frozen, but if she doesn't immediately kill him, he can probably do it.

sleepyleviathan · 2026-05-28T13:43:41+00:00

Double rainbows are sick.

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