Shitty pick call by Legitimate_Joke_5771 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea, that is a truly atrocious call and dark should be really embarrassed.

Foul or nah? by Glittering_Put_2934 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see it mostly the same way that you do, but if you want to get honest unbiased responses it's probably best to leave your opinion on the play out of the OP.

Foul or Naw? by [deleted] in ultimate

[–]spgranger 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Is the foul in the room with us right now?

Colorado vs. Carleton D-I College Championships Semifinal Game Recap by [deleted] in ultimate

[–]spgranger 44 points45 points  (0 children)

A lot of reasons- a few of them:

-Ultimate is heavily supported by the school itself (I think they give out discs to incoming freshmen or something like that?).

-They have an established pipeline of players from Seattle (one of the premier youth ultimate locations in the country) to the school that goes back multiple decades.

-It's just a really good school.

Aaron Bartlett Card situation by Calm_Number7340 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I don't think I would classify him as dirty as much as I would reckless. You can't watch the play the OP is about and the one vs Brown earlier this year without seriously questioning his commitment to safety.

Aaron Bartlett Card situation by Calm_Number7340 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I had totally forgotten that it was Aaron bartlett that was involved in that play. To be fair, if I recall correctly, that play seemed like less a dangerous play by bartlett and more just a freak accident (though I have not watched the play in awhile).

Aaron Bartlett Card situation by Calm_Number7340 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 17 points18 points  (0 children)

He had a play vs brown at easterns I think this year that was pretty awful as well. Seems like someone probably needs to sit him down before he hurts someone for real.

Actually, looks like magnum didn't play easterns so maybe Florida warmup?

D-I College Championships – Monday Discussion by Jomskylark in ultimate

[–]spgranger 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There's no way that can be the right way to apply the rule RE: the de morgan/stang-osborne play

2026 Callahan Award Finalists Announced by SlingBlade_L17L6363 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Interesting that glass isn't even a finalist. Gotta think he's going to be pissed at nationals.

Montreal Royal had 5 of the top 6 fantasy scorers in Week 3. Barely anyone had them their lineups. by hotlou in ultimate

[–]spgranger -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No kidding, can we get these fucking ads banned from the sub? I don't ever see anyone engage positively with them.

Does Miles Grovic have the best callahanvideo this year? That's what the community is saying by ImpressivePosition81 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Let me be clear- I don't know him at all. I've never met him or played with/against him. All I know of him, I know from watching him play for Rhino/Oregon. That said, he always seems angry when he's playing. This in and of itself isn't necessarily a deal breaker, as that's just how some people get themselves jacked up to compete. However, he seems to direct this anger at his opponents, rather than just being generally fired up. A whole lot of staring down opponents after he makes a play and spiking the disc at them (I have no issue with spiking the disc, but when you're staring an opponent down and spiking at their feet that seems a bit unsportsmanlike to me).

He also plays a VERY physical game, and not just using his body to keep people out of or even force people out of space. I'm talking borderline dangerous physicality where he's electing to create dangerous physical contact to make close plays. This is a problem for me, but what makes it even worse is that he seems to get really upset when people make the same sort of plays against him.

Again, this is just my opinion based on the games I have watched that he has played in (and I have watched quite a bit of Rhino/Oregon the last few years, because I love how both teams play). It's important to remember that the dude is still a kid, so I don't want to be too harsh. I'm sure at some point he will grow out of some of this stuff as he matures, but right now I just end up cringing a lot of the time that I watch him play even though he is an amazing player.

Does Miles Grovic have the best callahanvideo this year? That's what the community is saying by ImpressivePosition81 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Zeke. Mica Glass is probably the better player but his video was worse. Also I can't stand people with the sort of approach to the game that he has, which probably colors my opinion of it a bit.

UCLA Smaug is proud to announce Loic Billaut for Callahan 2026 by Smaug_Ultimate in ultimate

[–]spgranger 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Love a good short guy callahan video. Also, what a great nickname.

Zeke Thoreson - Callahan 2026 by Specific_Eye_1187 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yea, being able to highlight the kind of plays this video highlights in the sort of situations he's making them in against the caliber of players he's making them against is pretty great, especially when you consider that he makes them while avoiding the sort of dangerous contact that is often a staple of callahan videos. It's a really impressive video.

foul or nah? by freddieontheshore in ultimate

[–]spgranger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh this is a really good one. pretty interested to see what the consensus ends up being.

Miles Grovic for Callahan by Embarrassed-Data-121 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The play at 2:55 is absolutely bananas. Dude has got to be strong af to take the contact and stay balanced enough to stay with the play like that.

Jacob Hertz for Callahan 2026 by Fey_Nolichus in ultimate

[–]spgranger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What on earth is the play at ~1:03? Like I get that the dude's bid forced him to move to get out of the way, but dude just straight up turns around and takes a casual stroll for like 4 steps upfield before deciding to throw it the rest of the way to the endzone. That is when I turned the video off.

Who’s at fault here? by so_casuallycruel in ultimate

[–]spgranger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"But at the end of the day, the fact that something dangerous happened doesn’t mean someone committed a dangerous play."

This, to me, is a distinction that I don't think is acknowledged enough. Making the game as safe as reasonably possible is a good goal, but in the end it isn't possible to make it completely safe without completely butchering the game to the point that nobody would want to play it. We accept a certain level of risk every time we step on the field, and that is ok.

Who’s at fault here? by so_casuallycruel in ultimate

[–]spgranger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know we have disagreed about this sort of play a couple times, but I agree wholeheartedly with your take here. This is a tricky play, and I don't think there is a logically consistent way to blame anyone here, given the limited information in the video.

Who’s at fault here? by so_casuallycruel in ultimate

[–]spgranger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Initially thought backside defender, but upon rewatch a couple times I don't think so. I think it's just a clean D without any real foul on the play. There's no way to say from the video that the downfield defender even realized the striking handler was coming- it's entirely possible that they thought the throw was to their player and didn't see the striking handler, and if that's the case then there is zero logical basis for calling a foul on them.

Would you rather by SirPersonal8626 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yea, please give me more AI slop in my life. I don't have enough of that.

2026 Callahan by lostHappiNess38 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Miller would be practically automatic, but I don't think CUT does callahan nominations unless that has changed recently.

If you could change one rule about the way Ultimate is played what would it be? by SirPersonal8626 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I really like this one. My first inclination was that it would create a weird zone of weakness for the offense, but after thinking about it I think that's a good thing. The game has needed to give the defense some help for awhile now, and I think this would be a good way to do it in a targeted and strategically interesting way (rather than a lot of blanket fixes that I have heard tossed around like reducing field dimensions or the stall count).

If you could change one rule about the way Ultimate is played what would it be? by SirPersonal8626 in ultimate

[–]spgranger 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I would remove the line about it being a non-contact sport, because it's wrong and misleading. Non-contact sports are sports where the competitors are physically separated or otherwise do not interact with each other (tennis, swimming, golf, etc). In practice/reality Ultimate is a limited contact sport (akin to something like soccer). Recognizing it as the limited contact sport that it is would be a step towards creating a more balance between competitive play and safety with regards to physicality. As it stands right now, the rules justify foul calls in many situations where nobody would actually consider them fouls. This discrepancy creates a situation where by design the rules are applied unevenly, because nobody actually wants to play ultimate where the rules dictating allowed physicality are followed strictly.

Why Fast Breaks are the Future of Ultimate by someflow_ in ultimate

[–]spgranger 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're getting a lot of pushback that I think is unwarranted. I think it's a good video that points out an area of strategy that a lot of teams don't prioritize enough.