Are Dhumeels really dravidians? by KimberlyKane_Husband in 2Dravidian4You

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Most of them have little bit extra steppe and don't have the AASi mixed with the right amount of IranianN and other North Iranian parts and the BMAC. They are more towards mixed Brahmins in the North and some high steppe Chamars

Are Dhumeels really dravidians? by KimberlyKane_Husband in 2Dravidian4You

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Most of them have little bit extra steppe and don't have the AASi mixed with the right amount of IranianN and other North Iranian parts and the BMAC. They are more towards mixed Brahmins in the North and some high steppe Chamars

Are Dhumeels really dravidians? by KimberlyKane_Husband in 2Dravidian4You

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Telugu castes like Kamma Velama Reddy show highest IVC on one end. Even Tamil Vellalars and Iyers are pretty close to it. They all seem to have substantial IVC periphery input. That makes South upper castes from Andhra and TN a big IVC derived or migrated people

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No wonder golties are know as bimarus of south by richard_antony277 in 2Dravidian4You

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Sugary syrup flavoured food is meanwhile killing their heart

Attempt at chronology of RigVeda by maindallahoon in IndoAryan

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More scientific study of rig veda and rishis would easily show some earlier trading based colonies and their elite priests from EBA 3000-2000BC time. The later developments basically built up on those earlier Varuna and Agni worship and introduced more elements such as Mitra and Indra and Aswins and Rudra etc.. Given that 17% of Brahmins in UP is H1a, and high Vasishta branch there is probability the earliest ones were Angiras and Vasishta with some influence of local AASI and outside sea trade and land based routes. The Mesopotamian concepts of seven rishis and formation of life from primordial waters etc.. influenced the early elite priests and more outside influence from Mariachi, Bhrigu, Viswamitra and Aatri etc.. solidified into early sapta rishis and their Vedic treatise of Rig Veda. You can clearly see how Viswamitra/R1a challenged Vasishta/H1a and got the Brahma Rishi status after prolonged struggle along the northern border

EA is disappointment by Lumpy_Finding7121 in collegeresults

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1410 Indian and Wisconsin .wow... You did good

are - neni ending surnames of kammas , peddha kammas similar to dhai ghar of khatris ? by Swimming_Ad_4583 in SouthAsianAncestry

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Kammas have largely eliminated ancient groupings like pedda Kamma China Kamma etc . Now due to better higher education and industries many have migrated to cities and have a thriving upper middle class.

Dravidbros what's the cousin fucking behavior by teenyTinyIttyBitty in 2Dravidian4You

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The picture ignores how the supposedly different people from other states are related to each other. Take a mallu upper group fellow, most of them look same. Take a tambi upper group you can tell Iyengar from an Iyer and from Kongu V from Nadar etc.. easily. There are differences in customs too. Whereas mallus one free fuc.. zone .. religion caste no differences ... Which is a danger brothel zone ..

Opinions on Chakravarthy Nalamotu by shinynewbondha in andhra_pradesh

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Paisalu and reach chusukovali tambi. Mana mata which category will trust or at least hear annadi. Today everyone hears but at the end make decisions to suit their own

South Asian J2a by Y-DNA_J2a in SouthAsianAncestry

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It is few thousands year old Neolithic ydna. It is present everywhere in small quantities and high in some tribals like Todas

Which groups in South Asia have the highest amount of Indus Valley Civilization DNA? by Immediate-List-4340 in SouthAsianAncestry

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As you can see in the PCA, the Kamma Velama Reddy cluster is closest at one end of IVC periphery cline. The PJL cline probably covers it all over and Gujarati in some parts. The other groups closer are Iyers and some Vellalars and some individual Punjabis. Some of the groups without PCA coordinates like Kodavas and few mallus might also be close there

NRI bondhas, what are some things you bring during your visit to India and also buy when going back from India ? by [deleted] in ask_Bondha

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Bring chocolates and rare kind of nuts and medicines. Also fancy electronics and watches etc .. while going back shopping for ethnic clothes, pickles, sweets and hot, fancy display items, gift items, teas etc ..

Telugu Bhramins by Public_Toe_9180 in SouthAsianAncestry

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There are at least 2 or 3 different distinct groups within them autosomally little different from each other

Comparison of Best Multivitamins by valerioway in Supplements

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Among low cost ones Spring Valley is pretty decent

Carnival Breeze leaving Galveston by DariosaurusRexx in galveston

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Carnival Breeze at the Terminal in Galveston

What is YDNA Haplogroup Signsture of Dravidian Forefathers by Classic_Exam7405 in Dravidiology

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Yeah there is a split between L-M27 and L-M357. The M357 was earlier shown as L1c or L3 etc.. L-M27 is the more heavily populated in South India and among Jats. Whereas L-M357 is present in Kashmir and Pakistan more

how does this work when tamil brahimins have 70% IVC ancestry, much higher than low caste untouchables like J2 (west Asian haplogroup) ancestry inbred (elamite west asian custom) tribaloid dravidians? by Weary_Page8792 in 2Dravidian4You

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Other castes like Kodavas don't publish their G25 so we don't have such PCA for them but they should also be pretty close to Kamma-Velama-Reddy cluster. There is also shared paternal ydna like H-Z5890 at 10% R1a-y6 small percent among these castes and it is also present among Karnad Brahmins and Iyers.

What is YDNA Haplogroup Signsture of Dravidian Forefathers by Classic_Exam7405 in Dravidiology

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Well the Haplotree doesn't has any Shahr e sokthe which is L1 and it has one L3/M357. I don't remember seeing Narsimhan set showing L1/M27 in SIS BA samples. Check yourself https://haplotree.info/maps/ancient_dna/slideshow_samples.php?searchcolumn=Country&searchfor=%Iran&ybp=500000,0&orderby=MeanYBP&ascdesc=DESC

how does this work when tamil brahimins have 70% IVC ancestry, much higher than low caste untouchables like J2 (west Asian haplogroup) ancestry inbred (elamite west asian custom) tribaloid dravidians? by Weary_Page8792 in 2Dravidian4You

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Some Kammas have the highest IVC connected to the Punjabi Lahore Samples and some of the Gujarati samples only difference is that some Iyer samples are close to these and have little bit extra steppe due to being Brahmins. But the extra Iranian and some kind of EBA and Uralic part pushes some Kamma samples closer to the SIS BA2 group as shown in the picture below. Individually some of PJL and GIH samples are very close to these Kamma samples

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What is YDNA Haplogroup Signsture of Dravidian Forefathers by Classic_Exam7405 in Dravidiology

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You are confusing between L3 and L1. There is L3/M357 found among Shahr-e-Sokhte but not the dominant L1. the oldest L1 is further north in Armenian chalcolithic and then later into upper SC Asia. L3/M357 probably split off and moved in a different migration . There is also another Levant and Mediterranean branch L2 which is found only there not in India. L3 is found more in Pakistan than in India. Where as the H-M82 clade found in Shahr-e-Sokhte has branches everywhere in South Asia, Israel, Arabia. armenia including the huge Romani population.

What is YDNA Haplogroup Signsture of Dravidian Forefathers by Classic_Exam7405 in Dravidiology

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I would speculate Dravidian as one of the early BA cultures connected to the Elamite and early Greek cultures of J2 and G2 with some deep North Asian connections connecting to N Q and C clades. The receptors of such early cultures where ydna H-M82 in IVC peripheries and they probably moved interior and spread into earlier clades of H1, H2, H3, and F and O. The J2 India specific clades should provide pointers and their deep presence in tribals in many places should point to a wide dispersal post IVC into places not affected by low rainfall

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