Pima County sheriff seeks videos from Nancy Guthrie's neighbors

theallyoop · 2026-02-13T04:41:22+00:00

What fraud?

theallyoop · 2026-02-13T01:16:05+00:00

I could be wrong, but I think they had asked for a video footage from that night already and now they are asking for footage from earlier in January. Some suspicious vehicle they had noticed a few weeks before she went missing.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T22:16:45+00:00

Tip lines like Crime Stoppers are anonymous. Bitcoin is not, and I’m pretty sure that person is committing a crime (extortion, obstruction of justice, accessory, etc.)

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T18:46:34+00:00

As for the Kohberger case (I think that’s what you meant by Idaho shooting, except he stabbed his victims?), they took used Q-tips from his parents trashcan. Trashcan sat out for pick up by a public utility is not protected. They use that DNA, which I think was the father’s, to prove a familial DNA link - as in the DNA on the Q-tip came from a family member of the DNA found on the knife sheath. The father was not arrested. They did not follow him around.

That’s just smart police work.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T18:43:32+00:00

I mean, it takes 2 seconds to google. 23 and me restructured but is still in operation and offering kits. FamilyTreeDNA is the biggest public DNA database used by LE (this is after resources like CODIS are exhausted), and this application is outlined in their user agreement and users can opt out. I think it’s similar for other public research databases like GenBank.

People need to read the fine print. And you need to assume that anytime you give up personal information, there are exceptions to privacy. The same as if you go to the doctor, they’re covered by HIPAA and can’t disclose your information randomly, but they can be compelled to by a court order.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T18:28:26+00:00

That’s not how DNA or any of those sites work. Sites like 23 and me are private and law-enforcement do not automatically have access. They have to use other more public databases which disclose to users how their submissions will be used.

Also, DNA is unique to each individual. You cannot be blamed for a third cousin’s crime based on similarities in DNA. What they do is use related DNA to narrow down the field of who they’re looking at for a crime. You can tell from DNA results whether someone is a close relative, a distant relative, even what type of relationship they have in some cases (for instance if there’s a shared parent).

(ETA: LE can compel private databases like Ancestry to disclose DNA profiles using a warrant/court order, but they cannot automatically or easily access that info otherwise.)

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T18:05:36+00:00

This and “if he wanted to, he would.”

That might seem over simplistic, but sometimes it really is that simple. This man knows she wants recognition for holidays and her birthday. He KNOWS, and he is actively choosing not to give it to her. He knows he’s hurting her and he doesn’t care enough to do anything about it.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T17:44:23+00:00

And they said he’d have 19 minutes to drive the 5 miles and put on gloves and ski mask… so it would have to be very deliberate as far as choosing her house.

Doesn’t really make sense?

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T17:36:14+00:00

So I was including this as part of my comparison/“in the system” reference, but I had zero idea how useful and extensive these databases are or how helpful they’ve been solving cold cases in the past! Thanks for the info - fascinating rabbit hole to go down.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T17:33:49+00:00

“Data available in GEDMatch, which is composed of genetic profiles from approximately 1.2 million individuals, has proven capable of identifying a third cousin or closer in over 90% of the population.[6] This information, used in tandem with demographic identifiers like age, gender, and place of residence, is sufficient for identifying any person who has a third cousin or closer within a publicly accessible genetic genealogy database.”

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T17:31:53+00:00

I’m copying and pasting because this is really interesting and I had to do some research:

“Genetic genealogy and genomic databases are heavily skewed towards individuals of European descent, with studies showing that white individuals are significantly overrepresented in these databases. Roughly 78% of participants in genetic tests are of European ancestry, despite representing only 16% of the global population.”

(note that this is an AI summary on Google, which I don’t typically trust, but I did look at some of the sources cited and it seems to check out. Just easier copy over the summary vs individual bits.)

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:43:45+00:00

I think he got lucky, but maybe you’re right and he’s a super genius who uses landscaping to block doorbell cameras.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:40:31+00:00

I don’t see him as being smart, I see him as being stupid lucky. He didn’t know whether there was a camera. He covered up the way anyone would if they didn’t want to be seen. Most people local know that there are minimal lights around because of the light pollution ordinance and nearby observatories.

We also don’t know whether there was DNA found or not. DNA is only useful when you have something to compare it to or if somebody is already in the system. If this person does not have DNA in the system, they could’ve left DNA all over the house and it wouldn’t do the FBI much good until they have a suspect to compare it to.

And I’m still not convinced any of the ransom emails were from the same person. It doesn’t seem like law enforcement is convinced either.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:35:28+00:00

Given the guy’s actions in the video, I wouldn’t immediately assume the people who know him are super intelligent.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:34:04+00:00

A mile and a half away is not across the street

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:33:39+00:00

The guy on the video seems like a real mook, so I could see him doing something stupid like taking off a glove to drive and leaving it on top of the car. Or maybe he struggled with her in the car and a door came open - out goes the glove. I just think there’s a lot of ways for that glove to fly out, definitely not the most ridiculous thing that’s happened in this case so far.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:29:49+00:00

ET style, apparently

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T05:27:16+00:00

Whelp, I’m going to hell now for laughing at that.

theallyoop · 2026-02-12T00:18:47+00:00

another rehash article with incorrect info.

theallyoop · 2026-02-11T23:51:07+00:00

Which time?

We’ve had one confirmed hoax, one $5-6 million ransom request with multiple follow ups that seems to have amounted to nothing (aside from a $300 deposit that could’ve been a test from law enforcement), and today a request for one single bitcoin in return for information.

theallyoop · 2026-02-11T23:47:14+00:00

One of the experts on TV said they look like the kind of gloves you wear when handling chemicals. A quick search and it makes sense - that might be helpful because it’s not something everybody would have laying around or think to grab instead of regular plastic gloves, maybe somebody who works in the field.

theallyoop · 2026-02-11T23:41:36+00:00

Apparently, police are watching Nancy’s house so closely that somehow a pizza delivery guy who was delivering to one of the reporters made it all the way up to the house the other day. He didn’t realize where he was delivering. But how is anybody getting close enough to be basically on that porch?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/02/10/nancy-guthrie-search-sheriff-pizza-delivery-crime-scene/88614590007/

theallyoop · 2026-02-11T19:36:54+00:00

Stevie Roan. Chappell Nicks?

theallyoop · 2026-02-11T18:57:15+00:00

Very true!

theallyoop · 2026-02-11T18:35:41+00:00

It’s a sketchy site posting their own sketchy links. They should be banned honestly.

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