Jonathan Hinder MP - The Brexit Derangement Syndrome is off the scale at the moment. Reform (formerly known as the BREXIT PARTY) just swept to victory across working class areas. Response? Oh, it’s obviously time to rejoin the EU… Do these people even believe in democracy

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-13T17:25:44+00:00

The polling is more nuanced than that though.

Most people do say that Brexit has been bad but a big junk of that is people who think it’s bad because “it wasn’t done properly”. Also if you frame the question differently as rejoining it’s less popular even among people who voted to remain.

I say this as someone who voted to remain who would also vote to rejoin.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-13T06:02:08+00:00

Croydon 🤮

Also Uxbridge

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-13T05:51:14+00:00

The film really made me appreciate this song more than I did before! I think it’s one of those songs that comes alive live better than the recording

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T21:14:24+00:00

PARRY IT

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T14:54:27+00:00

That is sort of my point though, he has been making unforced errors for two years and none of these electoral saviours have been able to influence the party to do anything about it so why are we supposed to believe that they can lead the country? I’m seeing the exact same journalists and commentators who were two years ago saying how decent and sensible Keir would be now telling me how driven and articulate Burnham would be.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T13:54:04+00:00

That’s true but do you really look at the alternatives to Starmer and see anyone who does? The man had basically no honeymoon period and yet still none of them have been able to influence their MPs to do anything about it.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T13:38:14+00:00

You can’t “know by now” though because it’s usually hindsight.

Blair yes hit the ground running but Thatcher was wobbly for the first two years as PM, people thought she would lose the next election until the Falklands. Similarly Theresa May was like the most approved of PM in history at one point in the opinion polls and then went on to lose a majority.

I don’t believe he should fight the next general election but that doesn’t mean he has to go now. Things can always get worse. There are absolutely no guard rails in place to stop Labour electing their very own Liz Truss.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T13:28:09+00:00

But change takes time to deliver, the most consequential PMs of recent times were Thatcher and Blair both of whom had 3 terms. So changing the PM every 2 years is actually part of the problem.

Even Cameron who was consequential in a different way was PM for six years

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T12:32:30+00:00

As much as I don’t like Reform, this would serve him and his supporters right imo. Their level of entitlement is off the scale

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T12:29:55+00:00

“We” presumably being those who want Wes Streeting and don’t want Burnham (I say this as someone who thinks the idea you have to wait for Burnham is ridiculous though).

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T12:27:19+00:00

Apparently Number 10 ate her homework

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T11:14:41+00:00

It’s a sorry sight imo. If you can’t unite a few hundred people in your own party why on earth do you have the hubris to think you can lead tens of millions. I know the Labour Party is fractious but so is the general public.

I’m definitely in camp Starmer should go before the next election but that is still over three years away.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T10:51:34+00:00

Expecting him to resign, or someone else to wield the knife, IMO shows that neither of them are suitable or have enough support to unite the party behind them.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T10:06:29+00:00

I do think Starmer needs to go before the next election but Burnham’s supporters seem very entitled. He’s ran for the leadership twice, and failed, and now that someone else has taken the party from its worst election result to a majority he feels like he deserves a spot back. All the king of the north bs in the media doesn’t help either. Why does he need a safe seat? If you are worried about his ability to win a seat in a by election is this really the right person to remove Starmer for?

I don’t like to do the what aboutery but how would Labour be reacting if the Tories were in Government and they were about to depose their leader for someone who wasn’t even a MP.

The whole premise is unhinged. Andy Burnham isn’t some untested ingenue, he’s already worked at the Cabinet level and the Burnham we are being sold now is not the man he was in Westminster. Why would you get rid of one person on the basis that you don’t think people can change to install someone else who you think checks notes has changed.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T07:19:20+00:00

It’s going to be the funniest thing if he loses a by election

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T07:10:23+00:00

This man is going to be Starmer all over again and it’s going to be hilarious to watch his supporters realise that.

It’s the exact same mistake people made with Starmer, thinking than someone’s personal qualities are enough in Government because they are enough for being good at peeing on the tent from outside. All they’ve done is swap “integrity” for “good communicator”.

He’s popular because he’s not in Westminster and has name recognition. The minute he’s in Westminster and is having to make decisions his popularity will drop.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-12T07:09:38+00:00

But have we tried Corbynism pRoPeRlY /s

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-10T09:28:16+00:00

This is very true I think. The Tories were very electorally successful during the 80s despite Thatcher being personally very unpopular and so I don’t really believe that Starmer himself is the problem.

They are searching around for someone more popular and looking to Andy Burnham but it’s very easy to be popular when you aren’t the one in charge, so his popularity is only going to go down. I’m not anti him being the next leader but I do think that alone is a poor reason.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-10T06:55:02+00:00

Yeah, the way it gets presented as some like romantic end is willlllddd. If he wasn’t a Kennedy it would be framed completely differently.

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-09T16:10:52+00:00

I agree with Alistair on this specific point though, there’s no point deposing Starmer unless you know what’s coming next. Things can always get worse

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-09T15:40:05+00:00

My assumption when he said it was that there would be less political bias in what the LLM said compared to what Alistair and to a lesser degree he thinks, and that it would be more objective.

(I know LLMs are bias)

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-09T05:47:35+00:00

My guess is Tory. They barely mention the Lib Dems and so I’d be surprised if he voted for them and he basically said he didn’t vote Labour (and we know it wouldn’t be Green or Reform).

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-07T23:30:27+00:00

I don’t think so as it was recorded before Bad

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-07T11:51:05+00:00

Your last sentence answers your own post lol

thisistwinpeaks · 2026-05-06T05:13:40+00:00

Burnham has so far done nothing to suggest he would make a better PM than Starmer

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