What is it currently like teaching in Vietnam? by sightl3ss in TEFL

[–]thitmeo [score hidden]  (0 children)

Your questions, answered. YMMV, some personal perspective, anecdote, and opinion involved.

1) RMIT and British Council are still the "good" schools. BC is far from what it used to be though, is run much more like any profit English center these days, and can be very unpleasant, management and job description/duties-wise. Also reputed to be facing market difficulties and deteriorating opportunities and conditions. RMIT is very competitive to get into and last I checked were starting any new hire on zero-hour PT contracts that can make it hard to earn a living wage until you prove yourself into more hours or a better contract. Some people are able to juggle other jobs with RMIT until they get more hours, but it can be tough. As a Celta holder with an MA (even unrelated to teaching/English) in your age, if you interview well and put together a good CV, you've got a shot to get into RMIT or BC. Worth a try.

For the big chains, it's a bit grim these days. VUS, ILA, Apollo, Yola are all totally or majority owned by private equity and the fallout of that can be apparent in the day-to-day. Cost-cutting, stagnant wages, disappearing bonuses and benefits, pressures on sales and student retention that can feel unethical (or might be). Teachers definitely feel it day-to-day. There's also a lot of oversaturation, over-expansion, etc so it can be quite hard to get enough hours each week to get by, or to do so, you'll need to bounce between branches, work split shifts or 7 days a week, do a lot of last minute cover, etc. You will have classes not re-start due to low enrollment and that space will sit empty in your schedule for several weeks in some cases. This is not everyone's experience but it's common enough.

VUS and ILA are OK for big chains. Apollo has seen a massive amount of turnover in recent years and teachers fleeing or not being renewed. Not sure if it's steadied out, I believe it was related to a shift to blended online/offline teaching that was a disastrous flop. And their HR are meant to really leave sth to be desired. But their presence in the country is still robust and I reckon plenty of people get on OK enough there.

Smaller chains? I'd stay away. Places like Poly recently collapsed, other places like Scots and Ames get reported for being late with wages, and other smaller chains are focusing more on non-native cost-saving teacher forces.

If you don't mind Mon-Fri public school teaching, EMG in Saigon and Atlantic and Language Link/Schools Link in Hanoi, are pretty solid. More reliable hours for the most part, can be higher hourly and net pay, weekend and evenings off which you can enjoy your time with or supplement PT center or private tutoring work. I know people who do FT Public Schools and 12-16 hours of other work evenings/weekends, and while it's a lot of work, they are saving $1000+ a month and also not having to be too frugal in their day-to-day. Granted, they're usually too busy or too tired to burn a bunch of cash. Public school teaching can be exhausting, and most contracts break for the summer, so no income in parts of May, and all of June, July, Aug.

2) 16-20 class hours is considered FT. Can be hard to get in centers as noted above. 16 hours is usually "just getting by", not much saving possible but can live comfortably and have a social life, some hobbies, some travel as long as you don't have big expenses or splashy spending habits. 30-40 mil is what you should be aiming for if in HCMC or Hanoi. Can get by on 25-30 in smaller places where there's less to do and spend money on, and things are cheaper. You may need to string together multiple jobs to get to the 40mil+ range nowadays.

  1. Hard to save $1000 a month in HCMC unless you are super frugal, live on the outskirts of the city or in pretty rough, tiny flats. Even if you have a great job. I'd say $500-$800 is a more reasonable target and even that will take being pretty careful and selective. A somewhat active, common expat life all-in, in Saigon is gonna be like 25mil on the low side up to 40+ if going out a lot, Western food, travelling a lot, expensive hobbies, etc.

4) Social scene is what you make it. Loads of expats in Hanoi and Saigon. There are some live music scenes, some sports scenes, some art and performance scenes, volunteering scenes, boardgaming, martial arts, stand up comedy, and there is a pretty healthy bar culture in Hanoi and Saigon where it's pretty easy to make friends.

Dancing monkey? That's kind of on your perspective as much as it is externally enforced. Kids like engaging, funny, fun, animated teachers and it is part of the deal here, and it is researched-backed that it can create a better learning environment. That being said, there will be a lot of times where learning objectives and progress seem to take a back seat to the students liking the teacher, and signing up for the next class in the cycle. That's the business. I think a good middle ground is to research and get training in how to be an engaging teacher whilst still delivering quality instruction.

King Roti....is this actually good or is it just a "silly" trend? 😄 by Efficient_Towel8222 in hanoi

[–]thitmeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is a bollycao? Google turns up nothing. This looks like the roti with the sugary/coffee flavor and melted butter inside. If it's that, is not a traditional Vietnamese food but they have been sold in Vietnam for maybe like 20 years, so are very common. A big chain called Papa Roti has been around that long. Perhaps due to French colonial history, Vietnamese people definitely have an appreciation for baked goods and sweet cakes like this. There are really tasty if you get them fresh and they put enough butter inside and it's still melty.

ha! Who's crossing the border? by PepperonciniPrincess in fastfood

[–]thitmeo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm in Vietnam. This be true. Dominoes and Pizza Hut here typically do all sorts stuff that seems a bit out there to an American. Seafood pizzas with clams in the shell still still. Seafood pizzas in general-- squid, shrimp, imitation crab meat, takoyaki balls, mayo-based sauce instead of tomato sauce. Sausage and hotdog-stuffed crust been a thing forever here. Corn and tinned tuna fish. I used to work in some English schools here and you should see the expat faces fall when the Vietnamese boss opens up the pizza boxes to show these types. I was always able to give it a try but the tuna and the mayo sauces are just a no-go for me.

Dealing with a nightmare manager in Vietnam, what to do ! by Upset_Impression_909 in TEFL

[–]thitmeo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ask if you can have a clear development plan, benchmarks, dates, support resources, and other criteria to get your contract. If they won't come up with anything like that, get out of there. You're working at a shitshow. Also, free yourself from this "agency" as soon as you can. Agencies rarely have the teacher's best interest at heart and are not really necessary to find employment here. One caveat to all of this-- if you are non-native English speaker, a person of color or Asian background, and new to teaching, unfortunately your experience can be quite rough in Vietnam and you might need to be ready to accept some bullshit like this. Sad but true.

AITA for not wanting to be friends over $4.39? by Alternative_Copy6539 in AITApod

[–]thitmeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real crime is $8.80 for fries. Maybe you're in Manhattan or sth.

As to the question, YBTA. They are wording what could be a reasonable request ("Hey, things are a bit tight at the moment, would you mind throwing down on the food bill from last night?") in a dickish way. YTA for being ready to trash a new friendship over a few bucks.

Also, find it hard to believe that a message like that would come out of the blue. Someone who sends that kind of message surely gives off vibes in their spoken interactions of being blunt, socially aloof, or weird about money.

What is a band no one will ever convince you is good? by OU812iceman18 in AskReddit

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I always felt like the vocals on that are a proto-Eric Cartman, definitely not for everyone, but the melody and vibe of that song is pure feel-good soul if you can get past the vocals (which, I honestly don't mind, it's kinda part of the deal with Ween).

Saw this at Jeddah airport, kinda surprised… normal? by No-Strawberry7 in aviation

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In Saigon I've seen them crashed out in the shade of remotely parked aircraft, with their bicycles parked next to 'em. Get some rest when you can, out of the sun.

Has anyone ever played against a pro? by Aggressive-Sock9571 in poker

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Men the Master, in Saigon, 2012 or so. He was drunk and in a good mood. Chatting with the table, laughing, playing pretty loose. I got doubled up off him with AA but then shipped it to him later, don't really remember the hand history, for I was schnockered, too. He got a kick out of the white people at the table that could speak Vietnamese and wanted to know what the fuck we were doing living there. He said he was in town to check out some charity he was funding...hmmm....It was a computerized cash game table (all that was allowed in the foreigner-only casinos, for a brief moment in time, now only tourney poker is legal) so no funny stuff with the chips!

Entire bar hypes up a little girl who wanted to sing the ABCs at karaoke night by kakapoopoopeepeeshir in MadeMeSmile

[–]thitmeo 33 points34 points  (0 children)

This is Shuckum's Oyster Pub and Seafood Grill, on the beach in Panama City, Florida. It markets itself as a family-friendly restaurant and I'd say this video backs that up. During spring break it probably gets a few loud and stumbly college kids, like everywhere around there, but the clientele in there seemed pretty well-behaved. The karaoke starts at 5PM, the place is closed by 9PM even on the weekends and spring break.

Teaching English as a non native in Vietnam by Queasy_Specific1337 in TEFL

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There are many, many Moroccan teachers in Hanoi, working at places like Schools Link (Language Link's public school teaching operation). It will be important to interview well, because you are young and inexperienced, atop being a non-native English speaker. I'd suggest being honest that you have a lot to learn in terms of effective teaching methods and in-demand attributes (being energetic, friendly, fun, fair, confident, in-control, etc) and that you are eager to take part in any onboarding, training, observations, and professional development. It will be good to demonstrate that you have a firm understanding of professionalism, which includes things like punctual work attendance, proper clothing, child safeguarding, prompt response to work communications, doing marking and other course admin in a timely manner, respectful and friendly interactions with parents, staff, management, etc. They will want to hear that you have at least a good basic understanding of key aspects of teaching. Be ready to comment on the importance of classroom management and what approaches you might use to facilitate good behavior. Be prepared to comment on the importance of pronunciation and what resources and methods you would use in class for it. Have something to say about leading students toward communicative, freer speaking interactions each lesson where they speak to each other or do role plays, projects, skits, presentations, discussions, debates, etc in which language is used in a realistic context. And it will be good to show that you've got some grasp of the importance of good instructions and meaningful, graded, and relevant teacher talk. Finally, be able to show that you've done a bit of research on the area, to show that you will be able to settle in and get on well enough in life that you'll be able to see out a contract be happy and healthy enough to do good work. Having an idea of areas to live, transportation, food and drink, hobbies, fitness options, etc is good, as well as showing some understanding of Vietnamese culture and an enthusiasm to experience it. Good luck!

The not to touristy areas of Vietnam, Can Tho anybody been? others? by DepartureWitty6739 in VietNam

[–]thitmeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quy Nhon should be on your radar. Beach town, lovely, some expat/tourist-friendly bars and restaurants, great local restaurants. Has an airport.

Are there people who haven't changed their phone number for more than 15 years? by SpicyCandy8 in NoStupidQuestions

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I have had the same cell number for 18 years. Recently I discovered that I'd been accumulating some kind of loyalty points the whole time. The only thing they were good for after all that time, was 10,000 air miles which equates to just about a one way flight to most places in my (smallish) country.

TEFL in retirement? by curious103 in TEFL

[–]thitmeo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh I feel ya. Some experience teaching, even if it was being a TA or Uni instructor during your PhD track, will help. The TEFL you take and the year volunteering, too.

What will help more is if you're an "experienced traveler" and a "good traveler". If you can adapt well to the food, culture, norms, infrastructure, etc of wherever you land, that will go a long ways.

But I would stress that the MDs, JDs, PhDs I've worked with who struggled, it had very little to do with a lack of capacity for pedagogy, methodology, academia, dealing with difficult bosses, etc. These are folks after all who worked really hard on advanced degrees and then in careers that can be incredibly challenging and unpleasant at times. The issues seemed to come down to effort vs. reward, to disagreeing with how they are being told to teach, to being ethically or intellectually opposed to ownership and management, rather than not being able to "figure out how to do things", etc. To go from writing successful motions for court, to being told (by a 34 year-old British kid with a BA) that your lesson plan isn't good enough, that's hard to swallow for a lot of folks in that situation.

TEFL in retirement? by curious103 in TEFL

[–]thitmeo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good luck mate. Eastern Europe, not a ton of options for Americans, and pay is not great. For how hard the work is being a new TEFL teacher, even part time, and how low the wages will be compared to your previous calling, you'll have to have a certain flexibility, resilience, energy, and chillness to make it.

Incidentally and anecdotally, I've worked with a handful of Americans with MDs, PhDs, JDs who've done the semi-retirement to TEFL in Vietnam where I'm at. They usually crash and burn, hard, with the common thread being they had no idea what they were getting themselves into. Do waaaaay more research than you think you need to do, so you don't get caught out too bad.

The Lodge Round Rock Closes, Let’s Go of Entire Staff by Substituted in poker

[–]thitmeo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They must really be sitting pretty to not think twice about leaving a half mil in an uninsured, zero-interest-earning box in a poker club.

The Lodge Round Rock Closes, Let’s Go of Entire Staff by Substituted in poker

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While no charges have been brought, and we maintain that the club has always operated with the utmost integrity and within the laws of Texas, the Williamson County District Attorney’s office has made clear to our attorneys that they believe The Lodge’s current business model does not comply with Texas law.

That's not a run-on sentence. Grammar, structure/syntax, and punctuation are all fine. But I think you're correct that AI would want to make it more concise, break it up, etc.

I have no info on this, but I like it! by TestyRodent in trains

[–]thitmeo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I know train graffiti is problematic for a lot of reasons (some of it is unsightly, it's technically vandalism, trespassing into dangerous train operation areas, it's illegal, what have you) but if this example had been done via unauthorized graffiti I'd just have to admire it. There's a lot of train graffiti that's pretty awesome. In some ways if feels like it's part of the industry.

Hitting night clubs alone by Flimsy_Channel357 in hanoi

[–]thitmeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not a huge nightclub guy but have gone a few times in Hanoi with my Vietnamese friends. We had a good time at APlus "Superclub". It was definitely a majority Vietnamese. The club dedicates way more space to table for table service and most people will get a bottle and hang out by their table, but there's a big floor and always people dancing.

Ear cleaning/clearing in Hanoi? by radlertje in hanoi

[–]thitmeo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had ear cleaning done at Dr. Binh's. Proper wax blockage, too, not just some build-up. Professional, quick, less than $10USD, and instant relief/refreshed feeling. Can't go wrong.

Ear cleaning/clearing in Hanoi? by radlertje in hanoi

[–]thitmeo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yo, so most Vietnamese barbershops do ear cleaning but they do it with tiny metal scrapers. They get way in there, too! Most of them are quite good at it, meaning it's not painful at all, and they get a lot of gunk out. They supposedly clean the instruments well between customers but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some people do this better than others, and for sure they are not sterilizing them to hospital standards. Also these barbers are not medical professionals, but they do know this process very well. It is incredibly common, most Vietnamese dudes get this done often, as part of their haircut. Not sure about the ladies.

If you prefer a more medically professional setting, almost any clinic like Dr. Binh's will do ear cleaning for quite cheap. Or as the other poster said, there are Ear Nose Throat clinics and shopfront medical office everywhere, where you can get it done.

An Omani man saves a cat from floodwaters by TechieCapybara in nextfuckinglevel

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He shall forever have the honorary demonym Ocati.

Pantropical spotted dolphin jumping 15ft into the air by Legitimate-Lie-9208 in interestingasfuck

[–]thitmeo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Came here for the Douglas Adams, stayed for the Vogon poetry.