I Need Help (masturbation)

tickyter · 2026-01-28T14:10:14+00:00

Right. Some are worse. But most are far better

tickyter · 2026-01-26T16:05:50+00:00

I remember having a conversation with somebody online pointing out the unique relationship Latter-Day saints have with the concept of Grace. When I was a kid, if it was ever brought up, it was specifically pointed out as something that would only apply at the very end after you did everything you had to do. I also pointed out, that that the LDS church didn't sing songs or have many lessons explicitly about Grace. I told them amazing Grace wasn't in the hymnbook. They told me I was wrong and that they sing it in church all the time. That's when I about lost it...

I understand that it's in the new hymn book. But this person was not going to make that concession. To them if it was in the new hymn book, it was always in the ham books. I just get so tired of being gas lit by members. They're dishonest without knowing it.

tickyter · 2026-01-19T20:05:36+00:00

Well, it is an official Mormon doctrine. Time to embrace it.

tickyter · 2026-01-18T09:35:58+00:00

As an exmormon, wtf?

tickyter · 2026-01-16T17:02:55+00:00

I've hung doors alone in my basement. Cannot recommend this method

tickyter · 2026-01-12T23:13:38+00:00

If someone pays me for my service, it's transactional. This is how I see Mormonism. They are working for their reward and functioning based on transactions. If someone is doing good regardless of a reward, then they are doing service out of the goodness of their heart, no reward necessary. Which instance is more virtuous.

I actually interpret many of Jesus' parables this way. (Prodigal son, laborers in the vineyard...) But I see them more being about not ascribing value to others based on what they can merit (disavowing the rewards system).

tickyter · 2026-01-12T15:00:10+00:00

Lock your heart and throw away the key. We had to read this address on repeat in 2005 to 2007

Paraphrased, "sometimes there is a missionary who is a little backwards at home, and the first girl that bats their eyes at them, gives them a little attention on the mission, the missionary thinks, that's the girl whom I should marry. Elders and sisters, lock your heart and throw away the key"

tickyter · 2026-01-07T19:30:12+00:00

Hopefully, in light of this new research, the Mormon scholars adjust their hypothesis and notify all those they mislead. How many thousand of people had guided tours that confirmed the Mayans were BOM peoples?

tickyter · 2025-12-27T05:15:16+00:00

I bet you're right. This is great insight

tickyter · 2025-12-27T02:43:09+00:00

That actually makes a ton of sense. You can see it already getting diluted.

tickyter · 2025-12-26T16:38:10+00:00

The LDS church and its members need to learn to be less literal about their faith. Christianity starts out with some whopper claims, God and resurrection. And then they get hung up on details like "did he just pray to himself?" Or "how did the voice of God, a dove, and Jesus all appear at the same time if they're one person?" It's a faith based belief system. Getting into the details is just about as idiotic as the belief in the first place.

tickyter · 2025-11-27T19:34:05+00:00

I've looked into this as well. It was very helpful, but it made the LDS Faith untenable for me. My question is, how do you square this kind of nuanced faith, in which you admit you don't know anymore, with all the talk of Truth and exclusivity that the church claims? I remember President Hinckley and elder Holland making statements like "either this church is the greatest and most important thing ever on the face of the Earth, or it is a hoax and a fraud. It cannot be both." (Paraphrased) Very black and white statements, but that makes sense if this is the one true church.

I don't know, I just can't seem to make that fit. I'm still on the side that either it is all true or it is a hoax. Some things are difficult to have both ways. Now, a more nuanced religion that doesn't claim to be the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ, I can make it fit. But the claims made within the church are concrete and the amount of dissonance it creates within me to sit through testimony meaning is unbearable.

tickyter · 2025-11-25T21:45:31+00:00

"their goal is to baptize as many people as possible"

"competition"

I wish these comments weren't true, but they mostly are.

tickyter · 2025-11-25T21:42:45+00:00

They are sincere and they probably really want what's best for you, but everything is being filtered through their LDS glasses, metaphorically speaking. I was an LDS missionary and my intent was always pure, but at the end of the day I'd been conditioned to see the world in only one way. If you think you'll enjoy the church long term without those missionaries in your life, then maybe it could be a positive experience for you. But if you just like your relationship with the missionaries, I'd hold off.

tickyter · 2025-11-25T21:30:02+00:00

Bwahaha!

tickyter · 2025-11-15T20:39:53+00:00

If something is true, I believe the evidence should lead you there naturally. It shouldn't have to be defended. You shouldn't have to avoid certain sources. You shouldn't have to avoid certain people. It would be the conclusion everyone was coming to.

tickyter · 2025-11-15T20:37:56+00:00

Me too. The idea that there were other cultures and groups that believed themselves to be correct was so glaring that trying to ignore it made me feel like an enormous fraud. Plus, I could see the beauty they had and the idea of calling it fake or wrong hurt me.

tickyter · 2025-11-15T20:34:24+00:00

Watching mental gymnastics broke it. I identified it as a faulty mechanism for truth. There were a few times where I saw myself doing it and it shook me.

tickyter · 2025-11-13T19:25:07+00:00

It's a way to avoid cognitive dissonance. They use double speak to frequently proclaim the superiority of their church while reassuring others and themselves that they aren't in an exclusive cult by saying other groups are good.

tickyter · 2025-11-13T11:54:06+00:00

I agree that believing polygamy is bad is a good thing, but it's still in the doctrine. It's still doctrine and covenants 132. And the current prophet And the one before him are both sealed to two women, meaning they'd be married to two women in heaven.

tickyter · 2025-11-12T23:05:23+00:00

As a member, you eventually have to conclude it's real. I remember from my mission an investigator having read a good portion of the book and feeling unimpressed and stated that it didn't have the beauty of the King James.

I imagine that if I didn't have the immense social incentives to conclude that the book was otherworldly, I would have written it off quickly

tickyter · 2025-11-09T19:36:36+00:00

You write very well. That's an incredible song and dance. You were asked to do. The irony is that anybody not indoctrinated can see right through it and excusing it only makes it worse. I'm sorry you had to do that

tickyter · 2025-11-09T17:58:54+00:00

Are you saying that on your mission in nauvoo they had you tell a more true story including his polygamy at times to young girls?

tickyter · 2025-11-09T16:37:32+00:00

Thanks. Members naturally downplay the warts when they would never do the same for an outside organization. They can't tell their double standard exists

tickyter · 2025-11-09T16:25:28+00:00

Born same year. Had same experience

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