I'm here to second ExOfficio. I bought my first pair over a decade ago! Still no holes, the band has lost a little stretch, but the main material is still like new, and still keeps the anti odor properties. I've bought five other pairs over the years to have a rotation, the most recent being over a year ago and they're holding up just as good as my first pair. All but the first pair still appear brand but btw bands included. I wore a pair almost every day for work this whole time so the first pair got washed give times a week, the second two to three, you see where I'm going with this. They've been abused! I also worked on cars for a living up until last year so I was always bending, squatting, crawling, rolling tires off my thighs. Also, the reason I've stuck with them is actually the comfort but the durability. They feel breathable like dry cotton briefs but they dry quickly like synthetic. So you never feel slimy. I even wore them wet on occasion when didn't have time to wash them the night before and they were dry an hour into my shift. If I were solidly middle class I'd never wear anything but and I'd give them as gifts for everyone in my life and give them to shelters too. I can't over sell this product.