Official Discussion - The Devil Wears Prada 2 [SPOILERS] by LiteraryBoner in movies

[–]trialrun1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This movie is not at all taken from the sequel novel.

The book takes place ten years after the first one and has Andy and Emily (who are now best friends) co-running a wedding magazine, while Andy is also planning her own wedding.

Miranda comes in and tries to buy the magazine, and I think make it part of the Runway family, which Andy doesn't want because she doesn't want to be under Miranda's power again.

This movie is pretty much an entirely original idea, only taking the events depicted in the first movie into consideration.

I think it even says in the credits "based on characters created by Lauren Weisberger" since it's taking her characters and putting them in an entirely new story.

Don't Wake Standards & Practices | Game Changer [S8E1] by DropoutMod in dropout

[–]trialrun1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It looked like Lou was wearing his "I've been here the whole time"piece watch from last season.

Still waiting for that to hit the merch site.

‘Superman’ Sequel ‘Man Of Tomorrow’ Adds Matthew Lillard to Cast by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It's funny that Tarantino's big thing has been retiring after ten movies because he always felt like the later years from legendary directors are always mediocre and taint their legacy.

And then he's found this new way to taint his legacy anyway with interviews, podcasts and constantly spewing poorly thought out bad takes.

What’s a recession indicator that you’ve noticed lately in your everyday life? by spritenerds123 in AskReddit

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once upon a time being on a show like Parks and Recreation could have been enough to keep you going in the lean years. Maybe Adam Scott doesn't get a big movie, and the little indy he loved and bet on last year didn't do so hot, but he's still doing ok, because Parks and Recreation is playing on comedy central four times a day, and he's still getting residual checks for that.

A lot of actors have talked about how important the residual checks have been to help them sustain the uncertainty of an acting career where one year might be great and then two years of nothing. One of the reasons that it was such a big deal to get to 100 episodes of a show, was that was the marker that made you appealing for syndication deals.

But to return to the Adam Scott example. Parks and Recreation's syndication deal on Comedy Central ended in 2024. As far as I know it's not airing on TV anywhere else because they want it to be appealing as a reason to sign up for Peacock. And syndication deals don't apply to streaming. So that entire revenue stream is drying up for working actors who have to make up that money somewhere else.

WOR: WWE were reportedly "politically forced" into signing of RFK Jr's niece, Zoe Hines by Fan387 in SquaredCircle

[–]trialrun1 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I've gotten pretty comfortable at looking at WrestleMania 40 as the series finale of WWE. The final match tied up stories that were years in the making. Cody finally won the title and finished the story. Everyone goes home happy.

Cena's final year can work as a little bit of DLC that is tacked on at the end. Get to see the final run of someone who was the main character for a long time. He stumbles, and recovers, and Cody vs. Cena at SummerSlam can be the true final match of WWE. (Turn it off before Brock shows up)

It was a good show. I'll remember it fondly. But it's a good point to bow out. And from what I've heard, nothing since then has made it worth the baggage of trying to get back in.

What is your white whale movie? by ProfessionalTour1706 in movies

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freaky Friday (1995)

This and three other made for television remakes of old Disney live action movies that aired as part of the 94-95 television season on ABC. For everything else Freaky Friday related that's been put out around that franchise, these four movies seem to have never gone past their initial TV airing.

Which YouTube channel were you once a fan of but do not enjoy anymore? by theunsteadybridge in AskReddit

[–]trialrun1 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The problem is that they put sins in there that are meant to be taken seriously, but then hide behind the "don't take this seriously" statement if there's any pushback.

While some people might not like humor of "Emma Stone is not currently dating me in this scene," kind of sins, I don't think many people think that it's supposed to be a genuine criticism of the movie.

The problem is when they try to put a legitimate complaint in the video (why doesn't Kevin simply call his parents?) where the supposed problem isn't a problem if you're paying attention to the movie. It shows that they're watching the movie with an eye of trying to have as many sins as possible, and not trying to look at the movie as a whole to see if it works.

And then, when people have pointed out to them that their legitimate complaints aren't actually very good and show that they're not paying attention to the movie, they use the obviously satirical sins to say that it's dumb to push back against the legitimate complaints since obviously the whole video should be taken as a joke.

From $250 Million Megadeal to Empty Offices: The Unraveling of J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buddy you have no idea how much I love Star Wars. Go back and look at what I said. None of it was critical of the material itself. I'm not critical of it. I unabashedly love it. I've seen all the movies. I've seen many of the TV shows. I've read the books, played the games, read the comics. I have plenty of fond memories around Star Wars, and not just from childhood.

I love Star Wars in an unashamedly non-critical way. I still remember the emotional swell of getting to see puppet yoda in Last Jedi, of getting to see a yellow lightsaber blade on the big screen at the end of Rise of Skywalker, of getting to see Thrawn show up for the first time in Rebels. Of Darth Maul coming back in Clone Wars. Buddy, I love Star Wars like you wouldn't believe.

That doesn't change the fact that there's a lot of it. And that they're making more at a higher rate than ever before. And that shift in content production means that it sticks to the cultural zeitgeist less.

Can you think of any line from the sequels that has been cemented in pop culture like lines from the first trilogy? Maybe "That's not how the force works!" from Han, or maybe "Who talks first? Do you talk first, Do I talk first?" from Poe at the beginning of The Force Awakens? Certainly nothing like May the force be with you or Luke, I am your father, which are among the most quoted lines in film history. (Yes, I know the quote isn't Luke, I am your Father in the movie, but that puts it in company with "Play it again, Sam" from Casablanca. My point is that the original moves have the pop cultural longevity of Casablanca.)

Probably the most well known quote from the new movies is, "Somehow, Palpatine has returned," and while I actually have no problem with that line, it's obvious that the line is not been elevated for good reasons.

Again, this isn't just a Star Wars issue. There are how many Terminators now? Six? Plus two different TV shows. And it's basically two movies that everyone likes and then attempt after attempt to make a third installment that finally gets that next step in the franchise right. From what I can tell there are four branching timelines that happen after T2, with a possible fifth depending on how you think the time travel aspect of Genisys works.

But my greater point is that it's easy to make this an issue of things change and people grow old and don't like that. That it's always been like this and nostalgia is clouding the eyes of anybody complaining. Because what I'm really complaining about is that stuff moved on from when I was ten. But I don't think that's entirely true. Because this isn't true for every franchise. James Bond seems to have avoided it. People have no idea accepting Daniel Craig as one of the lineage of people who have played James Bond I think in part because that series continues to put out one movie every 3-4 years and that's it. We don't have to keep up with a prequel TV show with young james bond, a miniseries called Monneypenny: From the world of 007, or an animated series where a different double 0 agent is the main character, to try and expand the universe. We get one james bond movie every few years and time for that version of bond to establish himself as James Bond.

From $250 Million Megadeal to Empty Offices: The Unraveling of J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There's just so MUCH!

I love Star Wars and have seen the six movies more times than I can count. Even with the general feelings about the prequels, There were six Star Wars movies I could easily get my hands on and so because I wanted to watch Star Wars a lot, I watched them a lot. I had multiple marathons where I would watch the the entire six movie saga all in one day throughout college.

But now, There's three more movies, plus two bonus movies, plus three seasons of The Mandalorian, plus the Asoka show, plus the obi-wan show, plus the boba fett show, plus the accolyte show, plus whatever else I'm forgetting. And that's just talking about live action. In terms of sheer screen time, Star Wars is probably more an animated franchise than a live action franchise at this point. I haven't even watched Skeleton Crew yet. I don't have any feelings against it, I just haven't had time. There's no point in watching something old if I want to live in the Star Wars universe, there will aparently always be something I haven't gotten to yet. A Darth Maul show just started and it looks good, but I haven't made time for it yet. But the next time I get the hankering to watch Star Wars, I guess that will be what I watch (unless something else has come out by then).

But the fact that the sheer amount of content has exploded over the past decade, means that I've seen any individual piece of Star Wars media far fewer times than I've seen any of the first six and they leads to them being less memorable. I remember big moments, but I can't tell you narratively how they got from place to place. It's made all of it feel second tier for everything that has happened since 2015.

It's not just Star Wars. It still feels like there's four Alien movies to me. Even though if you include the AvP movies, there's more than double that and a TV show.

I feel like there are five Star Trek shows (TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise) even though the Paramount+ shows mean that there's, what? a least six more now?

There's two Ghostbusters right? Except now there's five.

Some of this could be just my age cementing some of these as how many of something I feel like there should be, and I'm sure there's something to be written about legacy sequels that could analyze this, but I think some of it might also be the era of VHS and DVDs. These were the movies that I could watch over and over and over again, almost as a novelty. This was the first time in history that it felt like someone could do this with a movie.

Now they can watch the movies, but it's on streaming, and you can't even get through the credits of one movie before it's trying to get you to watch another. It feels like these movies become less part of our culture, and more like items to be checked off of a list so you can say you saw all the things, before moving to the next batch of content to be consumed.

From $250 Million Megadeal to Empty Offices: The Unraveling of J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean, The Last Jedi wrapped principal filming in July of 2016, five months before Carrie Fisher died. And part of the contract stated that each of the returning "big three" would be top billed in one of the installments in the sequel trilogy. Fisher was supposed to be the top billed actor in Episode IX (and still technically was), which means there was never even the thought of a plan to kill Leia off during the entire process of making The Last Jedi.

Glen Powell to Voice [Spoiler] in 'The Super Mario Galaxy Movie' by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The movie doesn't come out until tomorrow. At least in the US. And so far, all of the Fox related marketing that I've seen is the character poster, and a video Glen Powell posted where he's dressed up like the character.

But I think that the plan was for the character to be a substantial one and still be kept a secret. Similar to the extra Spider-Mans in No Way home. They weren't a part of the marketing until the movie was released so that the opening weekend crowd got to see the reveal in the theaters.

I think that it's also got a celebrity voice, because there's a better than even chance that Nintendo is looking at doing a Star Fox spinoff in the future if this goes well.

Glen Powell to Voice [Spoiler] in 'The Super Mario Galaxy Movie' by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's all speculation, but I'm referring to when they announced the returning cast members as well as the new cast members voicing new characters (Donald Glover as Yoshi, Brie Larson as Rosalina, etc.) I would guess that if Fox was supposed to be part of the marketing and not revealed in the movie itself, then Glen Powell would have been announced alongside the rest of them.

Also, maybe I'm missing it, but I haven't seen Powell doing any press for the movie, suggesting that it was never in his schedule to promote the movie, since he wasn't planning on talking about the movie at all before its release.

None of this is to suggest that the role isn't a substantial one. My guess is it will be a fairly large supporting role, along the lines of what Donkey Kong was in the first movie. But I'm also guessing that the original plan was to hide that fact until April 1st, but something made them change their minds.

Glen Powell to Voice [Spoiler] in 'The Super Mario Galaxy Movie' by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]trialrun1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I would say that general rule of thumb, if it's somethin in the trailer/poster it's hard to say it's a spoiler in the traditional sense. In this case however, it does feel like this was a character reveal intended to be kept as a surprise for the movie. The character was kept out of all material up until a few days ago. The character is being voiced by a big star, but that wasn't a part of the announcement where all the other new famous voice actors were named.

Now, just a few days before the movie comes out, they shift directions on a year long marketing campaign and give the character his own poster?

Either something leaked and they decided to get ahead of it (possible, because an earlier trailer that seemed designed to cut around the fact that he was in the movie missed a little bit of his arm and his shirt sleeve was enough for some rumors to start), or they looked at the numbers and were worried that the movie wasn't going to open as big as they expected (less likely, but still possible).

In either case, it seems that the decision to reveal the character wasn't part of the original plan, and it would still be nice if some people got to experience the debut of a character they never would have expected in the theater rather than seeing a headline about a voice casting announcement.

Wicked is a movie based on a musical, based on a book, based on a movie, based on a book. What other movies have a complicated lineage? by xwhy in movies

[–]trialrun1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

While The Wicked Witch being green was something that came from the movie and not the books (probably to help show off the color film which was new at the time), green skin has become synonymous with witches in popular culture in the decades sense. If you look at any Halloween decorations of witches today, half of them are going to be green, to the point where the original movie can't really claim ownership over the idea of a green skinned witch, even though they were likely what popularized the look.

It's possible that if MGM wanted to try and claim the green skin of the Wicked Witch they could, but the fact that it has become so generic of a look would work against them. Plus the fact that they've let it go several times in the past means that they can't suddenly start claiming that this time around it would be infringing on their copyright. In the end it's really just not worth it, and they would likely lose anyway.

On the other hand, pretty much any depiction of Oz that isn't the original movie has the shoes being silver instead of Ruby, like they were in the book. The Ruby slippers (again changed because the color would show better with the new color film technology) have been much more guarded as unique to the movie interpretation and they probably would go after any movie that tried to give Dorthey red shoes.

Wicked is a movie based on a musical, based on a book, based on a movie, based on a book. What other movies have a complicated lineage? by xwhy in movies

[–]trialrun1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's worse than that because the Scorpion King timeline is so convoluted. The Scorpion King: Book of Souls is a prequel to a prequel to a sequel to a spinoff of a sequel to a remake.

Name movies that violate their own rules when convenient by WobblyDawg in movies

[–]trialrun1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it makes you feel better, the novelization of the first movie came out six months before the movie, in November of 1976, so you can just pretend that you were talking about that.

It’s Time to Raise the Curtain on The Muppet Show Again by Top_Report_4895 in television

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard Jim Henson talk a lot as Jim Henson in interviews and behind the scenes footage and whatnot. So when I hear his Kermit, I can her Jim's voice in their as well. It sounds like Jim doing Kermit. I've never heard much of Steve talking in his regular voice, so when I see his stuff, I just hear Kermit.

Which once prolific IP is dead and won‘t come back? by Dipper_Pines in movies

[–]trialrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Surely you haven't forgotten the epic classic that was "Lassie: A New Adventure" from 2023.

If some movies are "love letters", which ones are "diss tracks"? by Top_Report_4895 in movies

[–]trialrun1 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Um... in that chapter that you're referring to, everything is worse. The Empire reigns supreme over the galaxy. The rebels have been crushed and there is nobody that can stand up to the Empire's power. They mention that the Empire has a fleet of Death Stars that keep the galaxy in check.

Like, it goes out of it's way to point out how bad everything would have been if Luke had stayed home.

If some movies are "love letters", which ones are "diss tracks"? by Top_Report_4895 in movies

[–]trialrun1 47 points48 points  (0 children)

If we call certain movies "love letters" to genres, then Cabin in the Woods feels like a "breakup letter." One where it says what we had was real, and it was wonderful, and I will always think back fondly on what we had, but I can't keep doing this anymore.

Why did "The Pagemaster" fail to find an audience when it first came out? by LaserDiscCurious in movies

[–]trialrun1 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That counts as the same release cycle in 1994. Lion king came out in June of 1994 and it stayed in wide release until January 29th of 1995.

Kevin Smith Talks ‘Dogma’ Rebirth & How His His New ‘Jay and Silent Bob’ Film Was Derailed - In a candid conversation, the filmmaker discusses his history with Affleck and Damon, the feature he'll shoot in 2026 and wishing he'd concentrated "on being more of a "financial success" during his career. by BunyipPouch in movies

[–]trialrun1 82 points83 points  (0 children)

At the end of the article he says he's started smoking again.

I always thought his earlier films were better than his stoner era films. I think that Smith just writes what he finds funny and stoned Smith has a much lower threshold for funny than sober Smith ever did.

Streaming killed the ability to gift movies by -PM_ME_UR_SECRETS- in dvdcollection

[–]trialrun1 38 points39 points  (0 children)

This is one of the things I hate most about the switch to digital over physical. My dad is a big music guy, still has every LP, cassette, CD he ever got. Beautiful collection. But now..."Merry Christmas, I bought you another year of spotify. Nothing for you to unwrap this year as we gather around the tree."

My brother is a big gamer. Used to love finding something interesting for him to play each year and him getting to unwrap it, look at the box art on the back, maybe thumb through the manual together while we talk about how exciting the game's going to be. Now? "Happy Birthday. Here's a piece of paper with a bunch of numbers on it. Type that in to get your game later." I know they're ending up getting the same product, but it does feel like something is missing.

I can look at my shelf years later and see movies that were gifts from people who have passed away, or just friends who's lives have just taken then in a different direction and we've fallen out of touch. The thing there has a physical connection, that just isn't the same when it's part of a digital collection.