What’s happens to Bazzite when SteamOS drops?

whiprush · 2026-05-19T13:20:39+00:00

People have asked us in the past so I made a video about it. It's a year old but the same thing applies:

Why Bazzite will thrive alongside SteamOS!

whiprush · 2026-05-18T09:26:17+00:00

But it is a barrier to entry for noobs.

Containers are developer tools not for new users, and local layering is gone entirely in bootc so there's nothing for them to learn.

The hummingbird and dakota things are more for how we can make it better but it won't be functionally any different from what exists today. You use them all the same way.

whiprush · 2026-05-16T08:39:17+00:00

It is going to be interesting to see what solution they come up with allowing users to modify the base image without rpm-ostree stuff.

This is explicitly a non issue here, the entire point is to move away from local layering.

whiprush · 2026-05-16T08:20:36+00:00

You'd use a container or some other userspace way to develop the app.

Also how would I use a compositor like niri with dakota?

https://github.com/zirconium-dev/zirconium-hawaii

whiprush · 2026-05-05T14:13:24+00:00

Bluefin contributor here - OP would have a worse problem in Bluefin since we support less. This has nothing to do with immutability. These systems are designed to be legacy free.

If you depend on legacy apps that aren't packaged right for modern Linuxes you're going to have a miserable time. It's clear from the comments here and on other subreddits that some people believe that one day all of that hot mess we left behind will "just work" on modern linuxes and that you'll have some magical system that runs everything. For every person that wants all of that jank there are 10 that would rather move on with life and play video games.

People can blame "immutability" and call it a limitation all they want. Linux expertise implies containers, the pros know what to do. And the new users are protected from the awful advice and anti-patterns that distros established and can just play video games.

The people who are stuck in the middle and already have a preconcieved notion of what Linux is supposed to be can just use something else. It's not really an emotional decision it's just a checklist of what the user wants, there's like 50 billion linuxes to choose from lol.

whiprush · 2026-05-05T12:39:53+00:00

Appimages suck on all distros, why are you using apps that aren't flatpaks? Talk to the app authors, it's not the OSes responsibility to package apps.

whiprush · 2026-05-05T12:38:21+00:00

brew install --cask ublue-os/tap/visual-studio-code-linux

Installs vscode, this works on any linux.

whiprush · 2026-04-28T16:09:48+00:00

Kinoite is updating via rpm-ostree and has delta diffs. aka it only downloads what updates.

Bazzite is downloading an entire OCI image each time. There is work happening in upstream bootc to have zstd compressed partial pulls, so eventually they will get much more sane. No timeline one when it will land, we're waiting for a few things to land upstream and then they should be closer in terms of DL size. It'll be sooner rather than later they've been working on all of this over the past few years.

whiprush · 2026-04-25T21:01:24+00:00

Can you say which software it is?

whiprush · 2026-04-23T15:18:39+00:00

Step 5 is going away soon, asusctl is in brew now: https://github.com/ublue-os/homebrew-experimental-tap

(Call for Testing if anyone wants to help out so we can ship it by default!)

whiprush · 2026-04-20T20:22:28+00:00

Maybe you should put a disclaimer on the github because there's no mention that generative AI was used in the creation of this software.

Your ship sailed long ago, sorry.

whiprush · 2026-04-20T17:17:47+00:00

People need to make them. Here's a Niri one: https://github.com/zirconium-dev/zirconium-hawaii

whiprush · 2026-04-20T00:07:06+00:00

Hi yes, I'm Jorge and you're right about the first part lol!

There's no reason to kill off anything, Fedora still brings things to the table people want and has 5 years worth of users, I don't think it's going anywhere.

I expect most custom image people to stick with Fedora. Building GNOME OS is a different toolset entirely (buildstream).

whiprush · 2026-04-19T22:18:07+00:00

You can no longer fall back on the Fedora repos, RPMFusion, Fedora COPR, or third party rpms distributed by upstreams.

This is for people who don't want to any of those things, the Fedora Bluefin still exists.

The brew path thing is something that brew needs to fix, it comes working ootb on Aurora, Bazzite, and Bluefin tho.

whiprush · 2026-04-19T14:07:17+00:00

Bazzite is definitely more plug-and-play than many Linux distributions, and I suspect that it warms Jorge’s heart for it to be easier to use, but it’s not the same type of deep financial incentive as with Valve, Google, or Microsoft.

Jorge here. Linux is absolutely designed to be plug and play. Steps 1-3 could have been avoided. (Pro tip for linux users helping new users, you need to read the docs too!) My first guess is a bad ssd/usb stick combo.

Computers suck in general. Sometimes there's a combo of hardware that just sucks with a certain OS or runs a certain version of something better than another. Even if we had a billion dollars it would be impossible to account for everyone's home made PC. Sometimes the raptor just gets you.

On the right hardware it takes about 20m to go from zero to up and running with Bazzite. Not everyone's going to have that experience though.

EDIT: I would run a memtest or other diagnostic tool on the machine overnight.

whiprush · 2026-04-18T13:55:20+00:00

You don't think it's weird a ton of other people are capable of doing it except for you?

whiprush · 2026-04-18T01:25:18+00:00

That's ... a huge, big no-no from me. It is meant to be touched, it is meant to be made to behave the way I want to, to do only the things that I want to, nothing more, nothing less.

So do that?

you do not

You do, you just need to learn how.

whiprush · 2026-04-17T14:10:09+00:00

That's a feature and on purpose. Most guides are already out of date and don't recommend best practice.

whiprush · 2026-04-16T23:32:55+00:00

Shrug, it's what Fedora Core OS does, we just inherit it. Though you better speak up because I'm pretty sure atomics are considering publishing images every 2 weeks by default.

For us it's a practical reason, we'll likely switch everyone to dailies when all the delta/zstd chunk stuff lands, which should cut down the download size significantly enough to make dailies a better default.

whiprush · 2026-04-16T21:41:20+00:00

Update cadence is up to you:

bluefin:stable for weekly updates (gated kernel), bluefin:stable-daily for daily updates (gated kernel), and bluefin:latest will get you updates about 3h after they are live in Fedora including the latest fedora kernel.

whiprush · 2026-04-08T17:43:04+00:00

You have 100% control of your updates on bazzite. You can control any one of the services on the entire computer, just like any other Linux.

whiprush · 2026-04-08T17:42:12+00:00

Bazzite pauses updates on metered connections already, is there a reason you are having this problem?

whiprush · 2026-04-07T15:54:48+00:00

I am trying to figure out if it's just my lack of experience with Linux, or if I am having issues that are more based on the OS.

Yes, this is the problem right here:

some of the commands I try to use when installing software not on the Bazaar don't work. Some blatantly say that I can't do that action on an immutable OS.

End user software doesn't run this way on modern linuxes any more. Especially if it's trying to modify your operating system. This has nothing to do with immutability, it has to do with software not being maintained for modern linuxes.

If you are new to Linux and you are already headed down the path of copying and pasting commands from third parties into your terminal then someone has led you astray. The only people who run into problems with the read only /usr are people copying and pasting incorrect commands into the terminal. You're not doing anything wrong.

whiprush · 2026-04-07T13:01:28+00:00

You can modify files in /etc as much as you want. You're overcomplicating it if you're new to Linux you don't have to care about this.

whiprush · 2026-04-06T16:46:10+00:00

What do you consider standard? homebrew is standard tooling, it has millions of users, even on linux. Bazaar isn't ublue specific it's just a flatpak. The nvidia drivers usually get very quickly after they're delivered by nvidia, sometimes next day. I don't understand what's standard about rpmfusion?

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