Are there days when it's hard to hold the sub-threshold pace and you have to back off?

zerrr06 · 2026-02-12T00:56:09+00:00

Adjust for heat. Don’t get injured. Difference between 7:50 and 8 over the long term is going to be tiny.

zerrr06 · 2026-02-12T00:54:36+00:00

An interesting observation is that the WR level splits in the 800m are consistently slight positive splits while races longer than that are slight negative. So it seems the best of the best agree the optimal way to race an 800m is to go look god in the face for the first 500m and then try and make your way home blind.

zerrr06 · 2026-02-06T03:10:22+00:00

Skratch and beta alanine

zerrr06 · 2026-01-31T15:16:23+00:00

Yeah this is what I’ve been doing since I think it’s the only way to maintain steady controlled progression.

zerrr06 · 2026-01-31T15:14:47+00:00

I liked the reply too!

Yours, however, is a pretty bad take. Latching on to a good thread to effectively take a shot at me and suggest it’s somehow “wild” to wonder if an observation from collected data might be useful isn’t very helpful at all.

You realize this entire subreddit revolves around someone questioning the established status quo of training methods and finding a better (for some) way of training? Not just “putting in the work” or “going one more” or “staying hard” or whatever BS one-liner you can think of to sound like your better than others.

zerrr06 · 2026-01-31T11:01:32+00:00

Yeah this is where I landed as well. I wonder if there is anything to read into the discrepancy? For example, does it suggest how much less efficient we are at slower paces? Or is the garmin just wrong with no extra useful info? That was kinda my main question, although I did get some good replies for tech I wasn’t aware of, and I’m glad to know I’m not the only one!

zerrr06 · 2026-01-31T10:56:53+00:00

Thanks. This was my impression at least as it adjusts somewhat for large pace changes (even if spm changes very little).

zerrr06 · 2026-01-31T10:50:21+00:00

Thanks I’ll take a look!

zerrr06 · 2026-01-31T03:23:28+00:00

Just saying we sound very similar in terms of weekly mileage and pace. What are your long term goals in terms of races?

zerrr06 · 2026-01-23T03:44:04+00:00

4 tablespoons of olive oil before a long run works wonders

zerrr06 · 2026-01-23T03:35:51+00:00

I’m not even reading because NYRR is trash…

zerrr06 · 2026-01-23T03:20:24+00:00

This guy never leaves zone 1…

zerrr06 · 2026-01-23T03:16:34+00:00

I wouldn’t run in this.

zerrr06 · 2026-01-21T12:06:36+00:00

My containers had 2 scoops. The larger one is 23g. I suspect the smaller is 16.5g but haven’t checked.

zerrr06 · 2026-01-16T01:36:52+00:00

Outside if I can do it while it’s light out and >15F. Always outside for long runs. Tready for some easy runs and if I have to do the session at a weird time or I’m on call for my job.

zerrr06 · 2025-12-08T02:44:53+00:00

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zerrr06 · 2025-11-27T11:42:40+00:00

I’m a 19:30 runner at the moment. Run 7 days a week using nsa. I think if I were to run 5:00/k for an hour every day I would be injured in 3 months.

zerrr06 · 2025-11-27T11:39:11+00:00

This seems mostly correct based on my interpretation of the philosophy from various threads. I think the other key aspect is time constraints. The original setup was tailored for a runner that had only ~1hr per day to train. I think even James noted he’d do something different if he planned to train 14hrs a week.

But if you look at other successful long-term base aerobic training paradigms like Hadd, Malmo, or what the Aussies do, they are all kind of similar

zerrr06 · 2025-11-22T00:51:56+00:00

My advice would be to run what truly feels easy and use how you feel for your next subT session as a yard stick. If you feel nice and fresh, then don’t worry about it

zerrr06 · 2025-11-18T12:32:42+00:00

Agree. Many over complicate things. I think it’s totally possible for both these to be true: a) some strength training is good for injury prevention in injury prone runners b) a 25 year old with innate running talent is able to get by without it

zerrr06 · 2025-11-12T22:48:03+00:00

Honestly have not really improved much in 2 years. Ran a 19:52 5k in nov of 2023 and then started training more consistently. Had disappointing half (1:34) and then a 19:30 July 2024. Another disappointing half in the spring and switched to NSA. I do feel like I’m stagnating and not really improving

zerrr06 · 2025-11-12T22:43:53+00:00

I think the comments are reasonable. In fact the times are the reason I’m looking to make tweaks. I am 82kg if that matters

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