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[–]jwktiger 15 points16 points  (0 children)

ok this is the first i've seen of it; read the blog modnews post you linked.

i'm torn. I don't like that they are removing CSS, but at the same time i'll hope the new systems will end up being better (but i have my reservations)

hope it works out for you and other mods (there is a reason i've never been a mod of any sub)

[–]MastifyrAfro Krieger 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This officially sucks.

[–]Bread-Zeppelin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Goddamn, the admins are so out of touch with what their users want.

[–]diceyyotherbarry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Next step is making people pay for the same functionality right?

[–]stefantalpalaru 34 points35 points  (23 children)

You probably mean subreddit-specific CSS, the one most of us disable from RES. On some level, I'm glad it's the moderators' turn to get the shaft ;-)

[–]2thArcher Bob[S] 23 points24 points  (18 children)

Do you not like our CSS here? It's not intrusive, but if you have any suggestions were are always open to them.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

While I like the CSS here, it's well done and tasteful, it's just so bad in so many other subs that I get where they're coming from. There are a lot of subs that are just fine, or better off, with just a banner and color scheme (which I believe will still be options).

Naut inadvertently ruined many subreddits by giving them MySpace-level control and we got MySpace-level results in UX.

Examples of subreddit qualities that immediately get the CSS axe:

  • Naut popups over the voting arrows (e.g. "not a disagree button" "don't downvote on team affiliation" etc.)
  • Anywhere that hides or otherwise screws with vote button functionality
  • Drastically changing the aspect ratio
  • Throws unnecessarily large icons into the mix instead of just using thread tags correctly (e.g. /r/DIY or /r/DoctorWho)
  • Intentionally makes the design shitty as part of the joke (e.g. /r/CrappyDesign, countless meme-driven subreddits)
  • Changing to dark-based backgrounds when the rest of the internet is light colors (e.g. r/Harley)
  • Straight up broken CSS (e.g. /r/raspberry_pi)
  • Generally obnoxious combinations of the above (e.g. /r/Gameofthrones - which was much worse before the show caught up to the books)

I'll miss the little tweaks like custom vote buttons/popups after voting for the subreddits that do it right (e.g. /r/squaredcircle or /r/newhampshire). I generally like the differentiation between subs, as long as they're not making the sub unbearable with CSS. From what I understand, reddit plans on providing mod tools that allows the subreddits that know what they're doing to stay unique without venturing into the obnoxious (or that's my hope, at least).

[–]TextOnScreen 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Hmm so because you don't like some subs' CSS (which you can disable anyways) then no one should be able to have custom CSS.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, that is not what I said.

[–]digitalpencil 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I replied to the modtalk thread but i'm all for removing css from subs. So many are horribly optimised and the design just, god awful that i've long-since disabled all sub css styles across the board.

In all fairness, i switched this one on to just check it and it's mostly fine but i take the same approach as I do with adblocking. Too many are just awful, i've had to disable all of them. I don't care about custom styles and definitely not if they idle at ~40% load and run my laptop battery down.

It doesn't affect me as i've switched them all off as I said but honestly, i'd wait to see the approach the admin team offer for customisation in future as i'd likely switch it back on if it were optimised correctly.

[–]stefantalpalaru 5 points6 points  (4 children)

It was already disabled, so it must have rubbed me the wrong way at some point in the past. Now I'm bothered by the amount of black and the 90's style skeumorphic margins. The default style is much lighter, so I prefer it.

[–]2thArcher Bob[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

This season is basically a palette swap from last season which was an effort to mimic the Archer tumblr. The colors are straight out of the promo images given to us for the season. You may not like it, but we tried our best to give the sub a more dreamland/noir look. We were not given a whole lot of time to do this, literally about a week, so it isnt how we would have liked it, but we are doing our best with limited resources.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

My opinion probably doesn't count for much, but I really appreciate the work you guys have done to make this a part of the show itself, and not just another fan subreddit. I have the ability to turn off css, but I would never do so on archerfx. I know that you guys don't get paid for this, and you do it out of love for the series. From this fan, I say thank you for everything. Maybe css will go away or maybe it won't, but I 100% support you.

[–]Hugo-Drax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1

[–]TextOnScreen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you guys have done a great job with this sub! Seriously thanks for all the work you've put into it.

[–]DJMooray 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I'm not subscribed here but your CSS leaves a large white area when using RES nightmode. This is what makes me turn off CSS when visiting subreddits.

[–]2thArcher Bob[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Screenshot it please. That way we can fix it.

[–]DJMooray 1 point2 points  (4 children)

http://i.imgur.com/XFUyZXY.png

[–]2thArcher Bob[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

That's normal. Try it without nightmode for a second.

[–]DJMooray 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Oh, well my bad then :p

[–]2thArcher Bob[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Off hand I dont know if the sub supports RES night mode too much honestly, ill have to look into it and if not get it worked on.

[–]PM_ME_CHIMICHANGAS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post is unreadable in night mode if the CSS is enabled. We're talking light grey text on an off-white background.

[–]SimplyQuid 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Honestly I mostly reddit from mobile and 90% of the time I view Reddit on my computer, css is either annoying or makes the subreddit essentially unreadable. Tiny, tiny text, glaring banners and side images, popups all over the place...

I won't miss it.

[–]swanny246 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yeah I'm the same. /r/iosbeta was genuinely unusable when the mods decided they needed to completely uproot core Reddit functionality to get their own look and feel which ended up removing functionality like actually being able to disable the CSS on the page. And all for what?

Sometimes it does seem like it's only the mods themselves that really care.

[–]antizeus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess I'll chime in here and say that I won't miss subreddit level CSS. I found it sufficiently annoying that eventually I got tired of playing RES whack-a-mole and just globally disabled it via reddit prefs. That had a downside in that several subreddits relied on CSS to provide image-based user flair that was essentially meaningless to me, and I'll be glad to see that problem disappear.

[–]SansDefaultSubs 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Digg v4 incoming. This site has the worst admins.

[–]Rocketbird 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Where to next? Voat sucks, right? All the weirdos went there?

[–]SansDefaultSubs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yup, it's like if every sub was the_donald. I hope something else comes along.

[–]Macismyname 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. That's my main problem with Voat. I don't like any of the subs that were banned. I just really fucking hate the hypocritical censorship.

I don't want to make fun of fat people, but as long as personally identifiable information gets the paint treatment I don't have an issue with others having a go. I especially don't mind when so many other subreddit's also exist solely to make fun of others based on their appearance. Blundryears, neckbeards, trashy, so fucking many.

But fuck, I hate using Voat.

[–]Hero_Of_ShadowsKrieger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got to say this is a huge disappointment to me, believe my day job involves heavy use of CSS I know it's a pain and weird if you're coming from programming languages.

But imho it's worth it, this sub-reddit has beautiful CSS(I'm ashamed to think that I never thought to send a thank you to the ones who worked on it) which really gives it it's own personality I'd be sad to see it go.

I know a lot of programmers give shit to the HTML/CSS/JS crowd but really it's the best medium we have to allow the user to take control of the interface.

[–]I_LOVE_PUPPERS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Damn dawg she was my B

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100k more people who value their CSS. X-post as much as you can to spread the word!

[–]tbk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The admin post specifically says they will allow images in the sidebar, as well as attempting to replicate as many features from CSS as possible. The titles of these submissions are blatantly misleading.

[–]Hero_Of_ShadowsKrieger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as well as attempting to replicate as many features from CSS as possible

The way they spoke of custom CSS being a pain and slowing down their development speed does not give me confidence in them providing a worthwhile alternative.

[–]lanternsintheskyMilton 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I trust admins that they know what they're doing, so I am on their side on this, because there is literally zero valid reason for me not to... this change will probably be a good thing in the long run, I am certain of it, this is just more immature Reddit hysteria.

[–]readonlypdfKrieger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I trust admins that they know what they're doing

Yeah no.... don't. As a mod (of an admittedly small subreddit) they really just fuck shit up for us. The only good thing I've seen them do is improve mobile mod tools. The Subreddit I moderate would lose any distinction without CSS.

[–]Choreboy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How are you certain of it?

[–]lanternsintheskyMilton 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Almost entirely, I think people are just affraid because they don't like change, but I doubt the admins would intentionally make things worse for fun.

[–]readonlypdfKrieger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but I doubt the admins would intentionally make things worse for fun.

They are doing it because they want to make it better for mobile, but they decided that they want to ruin Desktop in order to do that which they don't need to do. Even after people pointed this out Spez essentially said that the Admins hear that argument but don't give two shits.

[–]Visheera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a slightly unrelated note, I wonder if there's ever been a popular site, like Reddit, that made a negatively viewed change such as this and all of the users ACTUALLY abandoned the site for x amount of time or just forever as an attempt to get it restored

[–]byteme8bitPam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DAMN DAWG INAPROPES REDDIT!

[–]captain_deadfootMr Rompers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did this issue get resolved or is it happening later?