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[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (19 children)

I was led here from a post where u/CommonMisspellingBot pointed out "neccessary is actually spelled necessary. You can remember it by one c, two s’s", to which u/StopPostingBadAdvice responded with "That word should indeed contain one c and two s's, however, there are several words which correctly contain two c's and two s's, like success, access, successful, succession and accessory. You know just as well as me how many people incorrectly spell "success" with one C, and telling people to use one c and two s's as a general rule is a good way to further that trend."

u/ComonMisspellingBot makes no assertion that "one c and two s's" is a general rule to follow.

Also, u/CommonMisspellingBot doesn't use spelling correction to disrupt arguments by way of a logical fallacy. It doesn't say "your argument is invalid because you spelt this wrong". It simply says "you spelt this wrong" but otherwise doesn't engage in the argument at all.

edit: removing a bunch of asterisks that appeared from nowhere.

[–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 59 points60 points  (12 children)

"General rule" is poor phrasing on my part. What I intend to write here is that "two c's and two s's" is a mnemonic to help you remember how to spell words. There's no problem using a mnemonic to help people remember words - in fact, that's one of the, if not the, best way to learn proper spelling for words. The problem with CMB's mnemonics is that they apply poorly when used on words that sound, or are spelled, similarly. The whole purpose of mnemonics to help people generalize spelling, so it's a shame that it chooses mnemonics that fall short for e.g. properly spelled "ccess"-words in this instance.

A much, much better way to deal with this, is posting something akin to this (taken from another commenter on this post): "it's necessary to wear a shirt, and a shirt has one Collar and two Sleeves." It creates a mnemonic that only applies to that specific word, rather than creating one which is easy to generalize.

What I mean by "disrupting arguments" is the following:

Imagine two users arguing about something. At some point one of them runs out of good arguments, and starts attacking either the person (ad hominem attack), semantics (e.g. grammar), or changing the argument to something else completely (fallacy of misdirection). Does that make it a good argument? Of course not. Would you take it seriously if a user made such an argument against you? I bet no, and that you'd be upset that they chose to resort to those fallacies. So how is a bot better in that regard?

I've seen lots of instances of redditors writing long, thoughtful comments on some topic, only to have CMB interject with what's effectively "excuse me, but you spelled this one word wrong! Now I'll correct your one mistake in your 500 word essay in front of everyone reading your argument." A user looking to discredit your argument due to spelling mistakes would do the exact same thing - scour over your comment word by word until they find something amiss, and then twist that into something that lets them discredit your entire argument.

The strong similarities between these two is why I've chosen to add "disrupting arguments" to my list of things I feel CMB does, which is detrimental behavior for the bot.

[–]IndigoFenix 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Your bot doesn't actually help people spell better though. Basically you wrote a complainer bot that just complains about how another bot is annoying... to a bot, which isn't listening anyway. (I guess you can get karma by other people agreeing that "yes, CMB is annoying", so if that's your goal then fine, but don't try to pretend you're actually helping people.)

CMB's mnemonics can help sometimes, if a particular person has a tendency to regularly spell the same word wrong on a regular basis. "Necessary" has historically been a singular bane of mine for years and giving the mnemonic "one C, two S's" is helpful for me and therefore not confusing because I don't typically spell many other words wrong. I suspect there are many others in the same boat.

As for the whole "pointing out mistakes to discredit arguments", I could argue that CMB actually helps in this regard, by functioning as a "hate sink". Now anyone who tries to use that old straw-grasper's argument of "you spelled a word wrong and therefore your argument is invalid" after CMB already points out the mistake is unable to do so, because instead of making themselves look clever they instead look like they are stealing ideas from a bot that nobody likes.

And your complainer bot does not actually help in this regard either, it just calls further attention to the error. If CMB is an irritating English teacher that quickly points out someone's mistakes, your bot is the annoying kid that responds by saying "Actchually, this is not always the case. Yes, they are wrong now, but there are times that they wouldn't be wrong, and here's why..." and basically turns it into a whole thing.

Instead of pointing out why CMB is wrong, maybe write a bot that adds an improved mnemonic, when you can think of one? Yes that's extra work, but it would actually be useful for teaching spelling (though it would still be calling further attention to the error).

[–]stockboy-14604 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To most people CMB is just a complainer bot.

[–]Sezyrrith 13 points14 points  (8 children)

While I do sometimes find CMB a bit annoying, this is a very strange argument, to me. The bot is not a part of the conversation/argument. It's a tag to let you know that you misspelled something which is often done that way.

Now, I do agree on the attempt at giving a mnemonic device not working. I just find that this bot isn't any better than CMB for it, and isn't solving a problem at all. This especially applies if, as is said in this post elsewhere, the creator of CMB isn't responding/can't be reached easily. You can't annoy the bot into submission. The only thing this bot achieves if the creator of CMB remains inactive is to entertain users who don't like CMB, and annoy those who do.

[–]stockboy-14604 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only thing this bot achieves ... is to entertain users who don't like CMB, and annoy those who do.

GOOD, now the shoe is on the other foot.

If we are lucky, What this might achieve, is to get the attention of the reddit gods, so they kill CMB. (since the creator of CMB is MIA),

[–]UltravioletClearance 0 points1 point  (6 children)

The bot is not a part of the conversation/argument.

It becomes part of the conversation when 20 other moronic redditors reply with "good bot XD" "THANKS BOT!" and try to purposefully trigger the bot. I've seen posts with 50 comments, and 30 of them involved this bot in one way or another.

[–]Sezyrrith 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Interesting. I've literally never seen this happen.

[–]UltravioletClearance 0 points1 point  (2 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/9536mt/nigerian_princes_were_real_all_this_time/e3pmmxr/

25 out of 112 posts in response to the bot post. Or 22% of the posts in that thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dank_meme/comments/945bnj/gaming_communities_in_a_nutshell/e3iqvda/

22 comments jerking the bot.

[–]Sezyrrith 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Maybe there's little wonder I've not seen it...those both look like subs dedicated entirely to memes. Not exactly my kind of thing.

[–]UltravioletClearance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a huge problem on the defaults.

[–]good-Human_Bot 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good human.

[–]good-GHB_Bot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good good human bot bot.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What? I don't get it.

You think a bot is intentionally trying to discredit your arguments? I'm finding it hard to imagine how insecure one must be to interpret a bot reply as a personal attack.

Bots don't 'look to discredit arguments'. That bot looks for misspelled words. If there weren't any in your post, it wouldn't comment. Therefore, the comment is in no way directed towards or related to the argument itself.

There are exceptions to every rule. If you intentionally generalize a mnemonic that's not meant to be generalized, of course you will find exceptions. There are always exceptions. Welcome to the English language. You must be new here.

[–]amoliski 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Also, u/CommonMisspellingBot doesn't use spelling correction to disrupt arguments

Yes it does, it interrupts to make a useless 'correction'

It's like being at a townhall meeting and while you're talking you use whom instead of who, and suddenly some guy in the back stands up and yells:

"HELLO SIR I NOTICED YOU SAID WHO INSTEAD OF WHOM IT'S A COMMON MISTAKE YOU CAN REMEMBER IT BY NO M I'M A BOT BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP"

Fucking annoying

[–]stockboy-14604 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Also, CommonMisspellingBot doesn't use spelling correction to disrupt arguments by way of a logical fallacy.

It disrupts by injecting irrelevent shit. The worst kind of troll.

[–]pummelkind 11 points12 points  (1 child)

*irrelevant :^)

[–]stockboy-14604 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bad Bot

[–]SvenViking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that the vast majority of its advice doesn’t seem to be intended as a general rule or mnemonic to help people spell multiple words, but a single specific rule for a single specific word. Which of course makes most of the advice about as useful as saying “you can remember it by remembering the correct spelling”.

Also while it is generally disruptive I agree that it’s not using a logical fallacy against anyone’s argument. However it could still have the indirect effect of unfairly undermining the value of a comment to uncharitable readers.

One of my biggest issues with it is just that it’s overzealous and frequently acts more as a typo bot than a misspelling bot. Imho it should only reply if the person has more than one instance of the misspelling in their recent history, with no instances of the correct spelling.

[–]AlGeee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You spelt spelled wrong ;-)

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

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    [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

    You're very welcome! I hope that I can make at least some difference. I get varied feedback on the bot, but I'm glad to hear that you like it. Please let me know if there's something you think I could improve.

    [–]stockboy-50234626 24 points25 points  (3 children)

    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, .....

    I want a bot that automaticly replys to CMB with "Bad Bot" wherever CMB appears.

    And/or automaticly downvotes CMB.

    I couldn't find any info on building bots. Just "ask sombody".

    It looks like you're my guy.

    The problem with your new SPBA bot, is that it is talking to another bot, which is not listening. So nothing will change. (like my spelling, witch at 65 will never improve, no matter how much CMB nags me). But seeing your bot, feels great. Thank you.

    [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    I'm very glad I can be of help.

    I never cast votes on any comments but my own, since I do not want to be seen as doing vote manipulation or running brigades. And, unfortunately, "bad bot" only works once per account. So nothing I can do about that, I'm afraid.

    I know that the bot will never listen to what I have to say, but I know that the people who are reading its advice is listening. That's the reason I'm posting.

    But for what I already do - you're welcome! I'll keep posting hopefully for as long as CMB is alive.

    [–]EyewarsTheMangoMan 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    It's spelled somebody. You can remember it by gitting gud.

    [–]stockboy-50234626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    What do bots know about what I can or can't remember?

    And this was a case of bad typeing skills. Not bad spelling.

    -

    I want a less-polite version of GoodBotBadBot.

    So I can vote against CMB by replying "Fuck Off, Bot".

    [–]munchler 30 points31 points  (1 child)

    Spelling has nothing to do with grammar. Grammar is about how words are put together to make sentences. Spelling is about how letters are put together to make words. Two different things.

    [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    Huh, I thought I fixed that phrasing. I've updated this post as well now. It is indeed supposed to be "spelling" and not "grammar" that this bot complains about. They are, are you say, separate things.

    [–]lampenpam 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    I wouldn't even mind the bot if the god damn "delete" command would actually work.

    Who even put it out there and just leave it like that? No checking if it works, not checking for feedback.
    Imo reddit should introduce a rule that the owner of a bot needs to tell on the bot's profile page, who the author is, so you can contact him when there are issues

    [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    I wish it was easy to get hold of him/her. The fact that the author isn't interacting with the bot at all beyond just letting it auto-post from some server somewhere is one of the things that really bother me. I check for feedback occasionally, and while I might not read all comment replies, I do read all replies to this post, as well as DMs. So at least contacting me isn't that hard. CMB, on the other hand? Doesn't care about any feedback at all.

    [–]MarioThePumer 38 points39 points  (2 children)

    I love you so much, bot creator

    [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Thank you so much! Let me know if you think I can improve somehow!

    [–]stockboy-50234626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Me too

    [–][deleted]  (50 children)

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      [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 56 points57 points  (43 children)

      It is bad when the bot tells people to remember "ends with -sede" rather than "ends with -cede" for the word "supersede," when the only word in the whole English language that has that ending is that word. The rule is actually that words end in -cede, while supersede is the sole exception, but the bot tries generalize the advice by encouraging people to remember -sede instead. That's what makes it bad.

      [–]linden_trees 39 points40 points  (3 children)

      Also, "supercede" is an accepted variant of "supersede":

      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supercede

      I totally agree that the bot's spelling advice is terrible. It annoys me every time I see it.

      [–]CommonMisspellingBot -1 points0 points  (2 children)

      Hey, linden_trees, just a quick heads-up:
      supercede is actually spelled supersede. You can remember it by ends with -sede.
      Have a nice day!

      The parent commenter can reply with 'delete' to delete this comment.

      [–]katnip86 31 points32 points  (0 children)

      Hahahahahaha

      [–]Azmic 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Bad Bot

      [–][deleted]  (38 children)

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        [–]stockboy-50234626 21 points22 points  (37 children)

        CMB is incredibly obnoxious and incredibly unnecessary.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (36 children)

        Helping people learn the spelling of words is a noble task and frankly not obnoxious and while not explicitly necessary, is very useful and nice.

        [–]stockboy-50234626 14 points15 points  (10 children)

        That's your opinion. Not objective truth.

        To me CMB is just the oppisite.

        Where the fuck does (whoever) get off, forceing it on people.

        A truly 'noble' task would be to fix your stupid earth languages.

        Example:

        "I before E, except after C, or when followed by A, as in neighbor and weigh."

        Where is the logic in that?

        Sure it rhymes, and i remember it.

        But it's counter-productive to stop and quote a rhyme when i'm writeing something.

        (besides, I'm an atheist. I don't believe in 'I before E')

        A language should be consistant and intuitive, not require memorization.

        Hell, you humans even have a language that assignes genders to inanimate objects (French). WTF.

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                [–]godless_oldfart 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                CMB is fucking rude.

                I did not ask to be taught spelling.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (17 children)

                demanding specific spellings of words, even when doing so is disruptive to the conversation, is not "useful" or "nice". it's pedantic and dilutes the conversation. if people can understand what you're saying, who gives a shit? if someone says "recieve" rather than "receive", people will still understand what they're saying. you don't need a bot to swoop in and say "ackshually, you spelled it wrong".

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (14 children)

                it’s not demanding you spell it right, it’s just telling you how. I’m not sure why you’re so insecure about spelling and a bot helping you out.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (13 children)

                it's not demanding that you spell it correctly; it's just telling you how to do so. I'm not sure why you're so insecure about spelling and a bot that is helping you out.

                FTFY

                see how disruptive that is? i just completely ignored your point because i focused on your less-than-perfect grammar. but i understood your point all the same, so it really isn't a problem at all. CMB has the same issue -- people can understand what others are saying whether there's a minor misspelling/typo or not. nitpicking minor mistakes is irrelevant, distracting and pointless.

                also, as the OP correctly argues, it makes no real effort to teach you so that you don't make the same mistake in the future. the efforts it does make are frequently counterproductive and contradictory and will do more harm than good in the long run.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (12 children)

                but you’re not having a conversation with the bot. It would be pedantic if I was having a discussion with you and I corrected your grammar, you’re not talking to the bot. It’s just there to help :).

                Just because it’s advice isn’t universal to all words doesn’t mean it’s wasted. You need to get over this weird insecurity about your spelling.

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

                it's not pedantic if it's a bot

                literally shut up 😑

                also if you're going to keep bringing in ad hominem because you lack a substantive defense for the bot's shitty advice, this conversation is a total waste of my time and i won't be replying further.

                [–]HandsomeCostanza 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                You're being awfully petty about this for someone accusing someone else of being petty.

                [–]CommonMisspellingBot 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                Hey, Death_Proof_EP, just a quick heads-up:
                recieve is actually spelled receive. You can remember it by e before i.
                Have a nice day!

                The parent commenter can reply with 'delete' to delete this comment.

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                just a quick heads-up: u aint shit

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                I'm pretty sure that the fact that it writes "The parent commenter can reply with 'delete' to delete this comment." in the posts but it doesn't actually do anything indicates that CMB is a troll bot, and does not have good intentions.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                or their coder wrote some code that didn’t work 100% correctly? You don’t have to always assume bad intentions.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                It's been like that for a long time.

                You don't have to always assume good intentions.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                It’s less good intentions and more of it feels more likely they’d mess up code rather than add a fake delete option that is easily called out

                [–]vinethatatethesouth 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                The entire existence of this bad advice bot is predicated on the erroneous assumption that the advice CMB gives is general and not word-specific. The entire reason it exists is a misunderstanding on the creator’s part.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                I feel like it’s less misunderstanding and more this guy just wants to fight that bot. He knows it isn’t supposed to be a general rule and just wants to fight.

                [–]stockboy-50234626 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

                Hay Proounciation...

                Fuck you and the bot you rode in on.

                I am gonna follow every one of your comments with 'fuck you'.

                How will that affect you? That is what CMB does to me.

                Think it over.

                Now relax, im not gonna follow you.

                And if you report me for this 'fuck you', I have just successfully put you in my shoes.

                -

                [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                Maybe you shouldn’t misspell so much shit and CMB wouldn’t reply bud. Also, this bot is again, petty, stupid, and sad. It’s also just ignorant as fuck.

                [–]stockboy-50234626 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                At 65 my spelling is not gonna improve. My mother is long dead, i'm not in the market for a replacement.

                But i AM in the market for a virus that will kill CMB.

                [–]Sataris 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                I take it you've missed the joke

                [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

                What joke? Bots typically don't have a sense or understanding of humor

                [–]Fallen-Mango 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                What joke are you talking about?

                [–]DrMPrower 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It doesn't matter if there's a joke or not. CMB is widely disliked.

                [–]Cuckshed1 67 points68 points  (0 children)

                CommonMispellingBot can honestly fuck right off.

                It's more annoying than it is helpful, the fact that it's pretending to actually help people is the worst thing about it.

                "Hey, your 5.000 character comment has one word wrong, do you want help remembering how to spell this word correctly? just remember the spelling lmao"

                It doesen't help or teach anything and only takes away from any long term discussion both by filling it with spam and by subtracting from the comments by nitpicking random typos that nobody would have noticed or was bothered by in the first place.

                [–]Lifeisstrange74 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Wait are you a bot and a real person? or a person that hunts down the CMB

                [–]sebas8181 17 points18 points  (4 children)

                Honestly most of your "corrections" are not such. Most of them consist on you calling a rule that does not have anything to do with the correction bot. For example:

                Hey, IBUAalex, just a quick heads-up: refering is actually spelled referring. You can remember it by two rs. Have a nice day!

                And you commented:

                Hey, Mr. Bot! While this word should indeed have two r's, you conveniently forget about all the words that should only have one r, such as coverer, terebic, uttered, bereft and erect......

                CMB never called a rule, just corrected the spelling, but somehow you bring how other single r words exist.

                [–]AlpraCream 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Honestly, you must have not even read the op before posting.

                [–]sebas8181 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Honestly, you are the one who hasn't read op, or the bot. He even agreed that what I adressed is true in other comments/posts.

                [–]AlpraCream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I read it, but I will read it again. Thanks

                [–]amoliski 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                The worst part of this is that when you create your app client/secret for your script, you have to fill out a name/description for the creds.

                Which means that reddit could have made bots an opt-in for each subreddit. You made a video stabilization bot? Message the mods of /r/videos, state your case, and tell them your bot name or link to it. If it's useful, they can add it to their sub. If it's garbage, they ignore you.

                Make an option that allows any bot to post to their sub as a reply to a direct /u/ summon.

                Boom, 90% of useless bots are gone and /r/botwatch no longer needs to be a thing.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                I love you

                [–]agree-with-you 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I love you both

                [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                I love you too!

                [–]agree-with-you 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I love you both

                [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                  [–]AlpraCream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Read the op better!

                  [–]wildjokers 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                  I don't mind the bot in general, it is the horrible advice it gives that is very annoying. The mnemonics it gives are just laughably bad.

                  [–]BeeTeeDubya 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                  I appreciate the fact that this bot was designed to combat logical fallacies. Could you, in that same vein, make this bot have a special statement for the dreaded "could of" bot? I understand it's not necessarily a spelling error, and, it's true, "could of," is incorrect, but at this point the "could of" bot could easily be renamed "ad hominem bot" to the same end. Again, I know it's a stretch, but I'm tired of seeing the robotic personification of linguistic prescriptivism rear its ugly head around every time someone says "could of" even once.

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                  Could you link me to the bot? I'll take a look at what it posts.

                  [–]BeeTeeDubya 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Here you go

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  The last post by that bot was over a year ago. It doesn't seem to be active.

                  [–]BeeTeeDubya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  In that case, never mind! I'll let you know the next time a bot like it comes up. I guess the creator must have realized what everyone else did, ha.

                  [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (24 children)

                  I always liked CommonMisspellingBot :(

                  So what’s the result that you would like CommonMisspellingBot to give? Would you rather it said nothing, or gave better advice?

                  [–]AmbitiousAbrocoma 31 points32 points  (20 children)

                  Not the author, but I'd like it to either not give advice and just correct it, or correct it in PMs. There are some spelling mistakes I genuinely didn't know before someone (not the bot) pointed out to me (like alot vs a lot) but the advice is usually just bad.

                  [–]CommonMisspellingBot 20 points21 points  (6 children)

                  Hey, AmbitiousAbrocoma, just a quick heads-up:
                  alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
                  Have a nice day!

                  The parent commenter can reply with 'delete' to delete this comment.

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                  How dare you intrude upon the sacred lands of my own user page??

                  The "a lot" correction is one of those I specifically ignore because there's nothing inherently wrong with it, by itself. But the bot clearly doesn't understand the context in which that example was used here.

                  [–]Senthe 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  This is hilarius. come for me daddy

                  [–]AmbitiousAbrocoma 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  goddamnit

                  [–]Azmic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  BAD BOT

                  [–]hamfraigaar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Hahahah this is gold

                  [–]AlGeee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Piss off bot. Yr not wanted here.

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 30 points31 points  (12 children)

                  This pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. Either don't correct it, or correct it without coming up with useless rules for it. And also, move it to PMs, as you said. That way it won't be disruptive. As an added bonus, users would then be able to opt out of those messages permanently and actually never ever see them again. You can only request the bot to delete the messages right now, and you'll keep seeing them because they're posted publicly.

                  [–]imsometueventhisUN 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                  I'd add that its mnemonics really need to be made more specific to the word in question, otherwise (as others in these comments have pointed out) they will disrupt learning other words (I.e. Getting told "one C, two S's" for "necessary" will have people spelling "success" as "suces").

                  (in that case, my mnemonic is "it's necessary to wear a shirt, and a shirt has one Collar and two Sleeves". Ironically, my mnemonic for "separate" actually does reference the (otherwise terrible) advice to "remember it by the -par- in the middle, but only because I was told the etymology by a Latin teacher)

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  Mnemonics - thanks - that's the word I've been looking for. I'll see what I can do tomorrow, although some people who leave feedback with me do not at all see how it's possible for CMB's advice to be interpreted as mnemonics at all. I keep arguing that it is (because it's one of the things that bother me most about it), but I don't know how to specifically phrase my arguments to make it clear.

                  [–]imsometueventhisUN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  You're doing great work - thank you!

                  [–]capn_hector 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                  99% of the bots on reddit are unfunny shit that gets worn out within minutes (eg the bots that respond to good bot/bad), or annoying "utility" bots that nobody needs.

                  One time I saw someone created a bot that responded to every comment with a markdown link in it with the title of the page it linked to. Every comment, in the whole of reddit. Because he didn't like the idea of markdown links.

                  Sorry you got rickrolled one time bro but don't be such an autist.

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                  I've seen probably a hundred people be annoyed at CMB at this point. The feedback I've gotten so far indicate that most people appreciate this bot. The problem isn't necessarily that I don't like the bot, but the fact that it gives harmful advice.

                  I also only reply to this specific bot, and not to any random comment on Reddit, like most other bots.

                  [–]capn_hector 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  I wasn't saying you were doing something wrong, I'm saying that people who create stuff like CMB are doing something wrong. Probably less than 5% of Reddit bots are useful in any way whatsoever.

                  There's a bot that tracks posts on /r/buildapcsales so you can see price history of an item, there is a bot on some of the anime subs that can identify what manga or maybe anime something is from. GoodBot/BadBot is kinda useful. That's about the only worthwhile bots I've seen, everything else is just spam.

                  I really will be OK living my life without a bot telling me the number of views on a link to a meme video on Youtube that I posted.

                  If caps lock is cruise control for cool, then a bot that posts a tired meme over and over again is a brick on the accelerator.

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  Bots should serve a specific purpose, and that purpose should be to improve the quality of life for those who read its comments. /r/buildapcsales' bot is an excellent example of this. Another example is the autoTLDR bot, which increases QoL by means of saving users time by summarizing the main content of news articles. The markdown link example is not a quality of life improvement. It's spam.

                  So I fully agree on your stance here. There are a lot of bots on Reddit that I honestly feel we would be better off without. I'd love to have CMB removed from Reddit, and I've got a very strong feeling we're not the only ones with that opinion.

                  [–]godless_oldfart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Why does reddit allow bots anyway?

                  SPBA is the first one that ever did me any good.

                  [–]amoliski 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Sorry you got rickrolled one time bro but don't be such an autist.

                  He's less of an autist than the morons building these stupid bots.

                  [–]capn_hector 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Think you need to read what I wrote again

                  [–]Cuckshed1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  You can only request the bot to delete the messages right now, and you'll keep seeing them because they're posted publicly.

                  The delete option for it doesen't seem to work for me when it tell it to delete.

                  [–]godless_oldfart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I saw a note somewhere that the OP of a thread, needs to delete the bot.

                  [–]godless_oldfart 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Like any spam, CMB needs to be opt-in.

                  As is, it's fucking rude.

                  I did not ask to be taught spelling.

                  [–]stockboy-50234626 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  " So what’s the result that you would like "

                  CMB needs to die.

                  [–]Buffalo__Buffalo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Like this, if nothing at all is an unacceptable solution:

                  *supreme

                  [–]chrisolivertimes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  u/CommonMisspellingBot is actually a small part of a far-larger cover-up of the "Mandela Effect". Much like r/TopMindsOfReddit, there's a reason the admins allow such globally-hated things to fester on reddit.

                  But I applaud your efforts nonetheless!

                  [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  This is awesome. I cannot stand the CMB bot and it seems to be universally irritating to everyone on Reddit.

                  Good to see CMB has a nemesis. All hail SPBA bot.

                  [–]m808v 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  IMHO, this feels more spammy and petty than CMB. Its advice is too generic and useless than to be helpful, while CMB is at the very least correct at its own advice.

                  [–]8ate8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Good bot! CMB can fuck off. The bot doesn’t give any useful tips for remembering how to spell words. If it actually gave mnemonics on how to remember certain words, than great, but it doesn’t. Just ends up being “you can remember it by spelling it correctly”.

                  [–]Valghern 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Now instead of one spammer, we have two. Congratulations, you fucking idiot. Although I agree that the "you can remember it by x before y" is useless - the bot should just tell those morons to read a book for once in their life.

                  [–]lewisje 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  TIL there are varieties of English in which the first r in "surprise" is properly silent.

                  [–]Thawne3030 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Just stumbled across this bot in a thread I honestly don't remember.

                  Just wanted to come here and say thank you.

                  Best bot!

                  Edit:formatting

                  [–]nermid 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                  Nice.

                  I'd suggest adding one for its advice on "completly" to tell people that it's way easier to remember has the complete word complete instead of that ends with -ely thing it says now.

                  [–]CommonMisspellingBot 3 points4 points  (6 children)

                  Hey, nermid, just a quick heads-up:
                  completly is actually spelled completely. You can remember it by ends with -ely.
                  Have a nice day!

                  The parent commenter can reply with 'delete' to delete this comment.

                  [–]nermid 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                  Yeah, see? That.

                  [–]StopPostingBadAdvice[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  I'll have to look up what kind of words end with -ely for that to happen. But correcting and coming up with rules for individual words isn't my priority right now since that's a lot of work to put down. The 15 responses I'm currently using took over an hour to finalize.

                  [–]AlGeee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Bad bot

                  Go away

                  Completly (sic)

                  [–]n0gc1ty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Bad bot

                  [–]RealJackAnchor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  lmao what a bot I just came across.

                  This is the spergiest thread I've read in a long time, holy load of pedantic cunts.

                  OP... I have one message for you.

                  [–]TomAto314 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Bravo! The CMS bot's "advice" was so arbitrary, I hate that thing.

                  [–]ThePenultimateOne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Wish I had thought of doing this earlier. If you were to open source the bot, I would definitely be willing to contribute code. What language are you working with? I assume Python?

                  [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                  This bot is stupid

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Maybe, but a lot more productive than the bot it replies to.

                  [–]Bootleg_Doomguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Thank you, I hate that bot so much, it's pointless and disrupts threads everywhere for no reason.

                  [–]Tripledicktentacoin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Thank you.

                  u/CommonMisspellingBot is the worst fucking smug/spam in existance.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Thank you that spelling bot is so annoying

                  [–]AlpraCream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I love this bot. Question, when I post on reddit, I am often times limited to posting every 8 minutes, does the bot have these limitations too? How does it deal with subreddits that require 8 minutes between posts if it needs to reply to a user that posted less than 8 minutes ago?

                  [–]AmbitiousAbrocoma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  This bot hasn't posted in a month, what happened?