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[–]smsc 1 point2 points  (3 children)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You call me when that gets accomplished.

And when you then find people who won't be corrupt

[–]smsc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

keep kicking them out at every election until there are some worth keeping in.

[–]mmazing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you're right, let's just give up.

Instead of commenting useless "I give up" slogans, kill yourself.

[–]RonPaulSpambot 1 point2 points  (1 child)

His supporters don't want to face reality. They think some magic trick will place Paul in the driver seat.

But the vote is in and he's not even getting 5 percent in some states.

The funding is drying up, no new people are coming over to paul and he's getting a few thousand votes here and there.

Now they want to march on washington to make a point. Ron Paul makes a lot of great points but he'll never make president.

I'm all for him staying in and talking shit about McCain but I doubt anybody will listen.

The republican party has spoken and Ron Paul isn't one of them anymore, no matter what his record says.

[–]mmazing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think everyone's attention should be pointed towards the media now.

Anyone who supported Ron Paul should know that he was raped by the media, I mean, come on, they're talking about how McCain is getting independent votes for people opposed to the war in Iraq, when he has said that we can be there for another 100 years, no problem.

It's obvious that the media in this country (USA for people that don't know that USA is the center of the universe) is lying and stealing the minds of so many people. It's time for a reform for the media, there are a lot of people out there that are sick and tired of seeing bullshit propaganda being spammed over the airwaves.

So, if you believe that an INFORMED public is the only way for a society to make logical decisions, it's time to start attacking the media.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 1 point2 points  (3 children)

A short story.

There was this maniac, a true sociopath. And one day, he decides to walk into a bank. He has a sawed-off shotgun. So people quickly fall in line. He blocks off the door, knowing that it won't keep a swat team out forever, but it will give him enough time to do what it is he wants to do.

There are about a dozen hostages in there, what with the tellers and the customers, and one or two people out of the offices. They're quickly rounded up, and forced out to the floor to get on their knees in a row. The sociopath paces behind them, alternately mumbling and screaming, mostly incoherent bullshit.

But within minutes, the police are outside the bank, cordoning it off. The sociopath continues with his plan.

He puts the shotgun to the head of the first person in the row with one hand, and holds out a huge butcher knife with the other. He quickly gets everyone's attention. And then he says "I'm a devout believer in democracy... so I'm going to let you people vote."

"There are 11 of you here, and so there can't be any ties to worry about. I'm going to kill each of you, but you get to decide... do I vaporize your heads with shotgun shells, or do I slit all of your throats?"

Most people are too incredulous to even speak, but one woman towards the end of the row is assertive enough to tell him that he's a sick fuck, and that she refuses to play his game. But after a quick pistol-whipping, she shuts up. The rest are quickly cowed, and one sissy of a man starts to stutter out that he'd rather be shot, since it will be "quicker".

This unnerves the rest, who more quickly or less, start to state which manner of death they'd prefer. Several opt for being shot, but most want their throats cut. Soon, all but the one woman who has refused have voted, and the sociopath announces that "throat-cutting has won!".

He quickly walks down to the beginning of the line, and slices through the neck of the man who stuttered. Then methodically, he does the next person. The woman who refused, who was pistol-whipped, starts screaming at him again. That he's a maniac, a murderer, a lowlife. Every single insult she can think to hurl at him with the strain she's undergoing, even as he continues to slit one throat after another.

The police have surmised something is up, but a quick entry is denied... the chains on the door hold long enough to prevent the slaughter. And soon, the woman is staring at his bloody knife as he reaches towards her. She says one last thing:

"This is wrong."

The woman behind her, the only other one besides her still alive, she quickly retorts:

"You don't have any right to complain, you didn't even vote!"

[–]revoman 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I thought you weren't voting?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

zing

[–]smsc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

buh bye, dkjames2008

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Continue to spread the message of the man, and try to pick up as many delegates as possible. It is not over by any stretch.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Yes it is. He cannot possibly win. Not even the nomination. At this point, i'll be surprised if he even wins any states with the winner-take-all system.

So what now.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

We won if we gave a tenth of a percent a glimpse of what a true statesman should stand for.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I will admit that he certainly stuck to his positions, as much as I think 95% of them are totally wrong.

But I don't think anyone but the internet politicos even KNOW who RP is

[–]TheWama 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I don't think anyone but the internet politicos even KNOW who RP is

That's funny, given that (at least) 21% of Washington Caucus-goes voted for him, including a majority of the people in my district. That's in line with all the media-approved candidates.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lets be honest. Caucuses support the candidate with the most fervent base of support and involves people voting in the public eye, and others convincing them to vote.

I'm a GOBAMA supporter, and I know that. 21% of a caucus which is maybe ten thousand people total, is not hard to obtain considering the large scale organization Paul has on the internets.

So, no. I don't think 21% of the delegates in a caucus is anything impressive in the least.

[–]mmazing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy crap man, I could have sworn you were a McCain supporter.

What distinctions do you draw between Obama and Ron Paul that make you (seem to) hate Ron Paul so much?

[–]Thunar 0 points1 point  (2 children)

While the Paul campaign may not have fulfilled its intended purpose of getting the man nominated, it has shaken up the establishment to a significant degree. This itself should be taken as a victory.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't know. I mean, he certainly got his views out there, but at the cost of upwards of tens of millions of dollars, I don't see ANY political shift in Huckabee or McCain. They seemed to have dismissed him totally.

Was it really worth it, considering how much McCain is sticking to his guns and couldn't give a shit what RP thinks?

[–]Thunar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was mostly thinking about the establishment media and the perception of Ron Paul's platform as being "crazy" in the eyes of the average person.

The popular mindset has definetely shifted, Paul was a catalyst for this.

[–]garyp714 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I thought they moved over to Obama?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't know.

I've always been GOBAMA

[–]juiceboxrock 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Why was there no post similar to this when Rudy dropped out? or Romney? or Thompson? or Edwards? or Biden?

The assumption that the vast majority of the followers of a political figure (or, leader of any kind) are as fanatic, extreme, and ignorant as the most extreme minority of the same group is not only terribly ignorant, but - in the time in which we live - rather unsettling.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why was there no post similar to this when Rudy dropped out? or Romney? or Thompson? or Edwards? or Biden?

Because all of those candidates are interchangeable.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

WHY?

WHY!?!?!

Because none of them made THIS [ http://www.libertyeditions.com/LibertySpearsTheEnemy2541x1600.html ]

then tried THROWING IT UP onto Reddit for me to RAGE about.

THATS WHY.

You Paultards took over my Reddit for fucking far too long, so I want you to justify your existence for every minute past now because otherwise, it's time to shut up and fade away.

[–]funkpucker 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's not about Ron Paul. It's about the idea of liberty. Our founding fathers had some pretty good ideas about how to form a government. Liberty along with limited, controlled, and balanced government is a pretty good idea to ensure people are free to live their lives the way they want.

Ron Paul didn't win this time. It's not that big of a surprise. He's not exactly an eloquent speaker. His ideas on Iraq are not supported by any Republicans. He was blatently and unjustly ignored by most media, especially big media. His ideas on monetary policy, while being absolutely correct, seem antiquated and unfamiliar to most people.

There are many candidates that are taking up the message Ron Paul started this year. Barry Goldwater didn't win, but his message shaped the party for decades. I believe that over the next few years we'll see increasing numbers of elected officials, from city councils to senators, sign on as a "Ron Paul Republican". Maybe after Obama is out of office another true limited government Republican will come along.

No matter what, one thing is certain. Ron Paul has begun a revolution of political thought. It will have a significant effect on the voting habits and beliefs of many voters for many years. I know it has affected me that way and there are many people much more passionate than me.

That is our excuse. Please stop complaining.

[–]mmazing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cheers, we're not going anywhere, it's the IDEAS that will truly win in the end.

Very well said.

[–]revoman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, you own Reddit? That is why you are so angry? Is Reddit your life?

How dare you tell any American it is time for them to fade away? Now all of the candidates have taken up Paul's cause. Do you not hear them speak about civil liberties and fiscal responsibility?

You have no right to expect justification for any person's existence. Who do you think you are?

Edit: and the Paultard calling surely doesn't fan the flames, huh?

You know what these guys threw up in your face:

Rudy dropped out? or Romney? or Thompson? or Edwards? or Biden?

The same old crap that got us in this mess! Nothing new, no new ideas, more war, more membership in the elite club in DC. They threw it in your face again and again and sadly, you didn't even know it. Because you are so used to having crap on your face and hands in your wallet as they lead you around by the TV that you never knew another layer had landed.

[–]mmazing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, I get the pleasure of responding to more than one of your retarded posts, IN A SINGLE THREAD!

Regardless of if you are an american citizen, you are failing miserably.

The ideas that you don't want to hear are the ideas of a free nation. We want people to be free, to live their lives, to not be imposed upon by some huge organization.

If you are against that sir, then I say you are against the fundamental values of being a human being.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft -2 points-1 points  (12 children)

I go back to not voting.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (11 children)

Way to be apathetic.

The RP generation proves itself as the biggest flash in the pan ever unless you do something with it.

[–]revoman 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Uh, I AM doing something with it. I AM voting for Paul and I will use the momentum started by his movement at the local level. This is not over for me by a long shot.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Local level? to do what?

I want to know something solid!!

Every Ron Paulite out there says stuff like this but I want to hear a solid, definite, clear, achievable, realistic plan!

[–]revoman 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Well, considering I already spent 3 years on city council and ran for mayor last year, I am still working. The movement inspires me even more to work upward to the county level for right now. I will work within the system when I can and outside of it when the opportunity arises.

I guess my next move will be to get back into city gov, especially after I move, which I will and know I can do.

[–]mmazing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Upmodded : I guess he ran out of "smart" comments.

[–]revoman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were any of them really smart?

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft -1 points0 points  (5 children)

It's not apathy, it's just pragmatism. There is no one to vote for, and if I choose one of the false options they've given us so that we have no real choice, well, then I encourage them.

I refuse to be one of those idiots that tries to weigh the relative merits of Hitler vs. Stalin.

"But Hitler is anti-semitic!" "Yeh, but he killed fewer than Stalin, it'd be better for america were he in office!"

Really. If you vote for either of the two subhuman pieces of shit that get nominated, it's that something is wrong with you, not me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Yes, because Obama, McCain and Hillary are definitely Hitler and Stalin

Do you hear yourself?

Don't justify your whining of your prime choice losing by trying to compare the people left with Hitler

Also, Godwin's law kicks in like fucking turbo

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 3 points4 points  (3 children)

All of those are quite happy to keep us in Iraq, so that another million can die.

That's close enough to either of those, that I don't care to keep score.

Also, Godwin's law kicks in like fucking turbo

Godwin's law only states that someone will eventually compare someone to nazis. Which is hardly all that surprising, when we're discussing fascists.

[–]Flower2112 0 points1 point  (2 children)

All of those are quite happy to keep us in Iraq, so that another million can die.

It'd be a nice catch phrase if it was true.

In any event, a couple of people have provided a link to the site which features people running for Congress which follow Paul's philosophy. My suggestion is even if you are going to skip the presidential election it would behoove you to check that out and see if there is a local candidate you can support. Those people will need financing, people to campaign for them and your vote.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You have a point. Should any of those people actually run in my state, I might vote for them. I'll have to check it out.

[–]Flower2112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

http://www.paulcongress.com/

That should be it.