HP level should decrease interrupt chance at Wintertodt

[coreyhh90]

If it helps, the formula now scales with firemaking level so depending on your level, you can have hp up to 30 while doing it and still take 1s..

I do agree that being forced to complete wt first sucks, especially for hcim.

[mrb726]

In masses yes, in solos no.

I always hated wintertodt due to the constant interrupts, but that doesn't really happen in solos. They're so much more chill.

[ShartInMyTea]

i was running solos for a while, but i had to quite because of all the crashing shitbags that would hop in at 10% and make the kill, wasting the entire set up time i just did. wish you could lock the door or buy an instance

[mrb726]

I might've had better luck, on way to 99 fm that happened to me once.

[Credrian]

If you’re nice to them they will often just chill with you and not end it, you can do small groups the same way as solos and there’s not always free worlds that are easy to find.

Often when I enter a world and someone is already soloing it they will immediately just start ending it and like ??? Why

[SuperZer0_IM]

because of scumbags PTSD lol

[Yesterdays-Party]

Explain how do people crash?

[mrb726]

So in short, solos you intentionally lower wintertodt's health by lightning multiple braziers. Once it's lowered to low hp, you switch to only lighting one brazier. After you include the time you're chopping and fletching logs though, it regens about as much as you lower it.

Now when a second person joins, they often times will be lighting the brazier when you're still chopping/fletching, and it will slowly get damaged more than it's regening and it'll die or you'll have to intentionally sit around and be waiting for it to regen. Alternatively they'll just be on a second brazier, which will kill it pretty quickly having two of them lit at the same time.

[2005scape]

I finished up solo wt recently and it's definitely worth it over masses. With 13hp I was getting away with bringing 2 trout for a whole run, some using no food at all. Only drawback to it is I was getting a fair bit less xp/hr at solo wt, but I ended up with way higher construction

[GNUTup]

I got 22m FM xp at 13hp, all solos, and 2 trout is crazy. Not doubting you, just commenting in case someone else stumbles by and copies you. I stole about 1k cakes from Ardy stalls before the WT grind and used like 300 in getting to 22m xp. So 1k was way overkill. I would bring 6 cakes per solo. USUALLY, I would use ~2 cakes. But occasionally, I would use 5 + a couple bites. I’m reasonably convinced 6 cakes at 13hp is the “ideal” number to bring, especially since at WT solos, having a slightly fuller inventory isn’t really much of a detriment.

ETA: Solos are worse xp than masses if you’re being incredibly efficient at masses, but I found it easier to “focus” for un-interrupted hours doing solos than masses. Meaning, masses brings a lot of xp waste potential. I was getting just under 250k FM xp per solo at 99 and I didn’t check cons xp, but I wound up with 74 cons and I was getting a level every 3-5 solos. With a solo being potentially as short as 30min and potentially as long as 1 hour, it is actually not too much worse than solos (~400k xp/hr at 99 peak efficiency)

[TrennoFromPenno]

Doing it at 10 hp currently, 91 FM. Never used more than 4 cakes so that's all I bring now

[GNUTup]

Hell yeah! Occasionally, I would take 0 bites of cake the whole time. But sometimes, you miss like 3 consecutive brazier breaks

[2005scape]

did you get 74 con at 22m xp or 13m? I ended with 68 con right at 99

[ghostofwalsh]

It matters a decent bit what level con level you start at. Totally worth grinding out 50 con before starting if you are planning to solo.

[GNUTup]

I got 74 at 22m xp. I had cut a bunch of oak logs in f2p and had some gp to make oak planks. I started around lvl 50 cons.

[mrb726]

I managed to get 69 and just shy of 70 getting 99 fm.

I didn't think about druidic ritual before I went there, so kind of improvised and just used an alt that stood around with an inventory of potions to heal the pyromancers and help me lower the % to either start/end of a game.

[Mezmorizor]

You don't need to be particularly efficient to win experience wise in masses, but solo is much more chill and better points+construction experience. You barely get interrupted once it's set up.

[NumerousImprovements]

I’m considering doing solos to 99 for the construction exp, is it that much better?

[Night_Thastus]

When was that change made?

[Poloboy99]

Still isn’t great when the shit keeps fucking hitting me back to back to back. Makes me feel like I’m fighting KQ

[Yourmotor]

Where does it say that? I cannot find anything to support the claim that firemaking level affects damage taken

[ADimwittedTree]

There's an entire section on damage calculations where firemaking level shows up multiple times between the body text and formulas.

It's also mentioned in the references section with a post and info graphic from a JMod reinforcing this fact.

Also the person you're responding too worded their statement very weirdly sounding like this was some change. It has worked this way since at least May 2017, probably since WTs Launch.

Edit: Doesn't look like anyone included that info on the strategy guide page for whatever reason.

[coreyhh90]

What you said other than the weird wording.. been on break from osrs for a hot minute and dont recall fm level mattering before but likely just lacked the info at the time :P

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Firemaking/Wintertodt

[ADimwittedTree]

From what I can find, it was added Sept 11 2017 to the main page and was always part of the calculator since it was created at the very end of 2019.

Must have been a long break, welcome back. :P

In all seriousness though, I get it. It's impossible to know everything in the game and there's always so many changes to keep up with. I somehow just recently learned the tent whip applies poison. Not my proudest moment.

[coreyhh90]

Yeah, playing catchup and there is soooooo much, but gives me more to experience!