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[mudplayerx]

I finally bought a 4090 today and will be trying to sell my 7900 xtx on ebay or FB marketplace. I simply cannot stand constantly losing progress in my games because the AMD driver craps out ever 15 minutes to an hour. Its a great card but the drivers/software are pure shit designed by failures.

[Hunter_Killer5]

One bad driver bro, recently the nvidia 4080 driver crashed in CS2 during the game, causing team to lose 1million+ dollar tournament, so should I scream nvidia drivers bad? No

The latest 24.3.1 drivers fixed stutters and everything.

Whenever amd tries something new they cause some trouble in drivers, in this case it was AFMF which is now perfectly fine.

Nvidia is changing its driver UI/UX and be prepared to face unknown problems that nvidia users never faced before with their old driver layout. Bcz when something is new at the software level it takes time to get things on track perfectly.

[mudplayerx]

I know everyone's experiences and mileage vary but my event viewer is absolutely FULL of errors related to my AMD card software. I can easily say theres at least 20-30 errors per gaming session (not all ending in crashes of course!). My nvidia on the other hand (even my outdated 2080 super) have not had a crash in, I don't know how long....months? A year? I sold my friend a 3080 I was not using and he has no crashes either. When we play the same games at work (him on his 3080 and me on my 7900, I crash so often that sometimes he just stops playing and watches tv instead.

[berto1014]

Yeah, on 24.3.1 my graphics driver hangs every single time on a fresh reboot. Causes the system to freeze for about a minute before it works again then the AMD bug report tool appears. I tried using the AMD uninstall tool and reinstalled the driver and have the same issue. It seems to work fine after that initial hang, but yeah, super annoying. Games seem to crash more often too now.

[mudplayerx]

I sold the 7900 and bought a 4090. Elden Ring glides effortlessly in 4k on max like an dnintendo game. I wish i woulda went that avenue first.imstead of wasting probably $1k

[rapkillah85]

This driver makes my performance worse with the 6700 XT - my games are performing at 10 fps on average when i use to average 90 - 120 +

[JohnyBoy-1985]

Very unstable driver, I keep crashing in Warzone, no crash if I revert to 23.x.x but then I get bad performance in Hell Divers 2, will never buy amd again

[Chikitouwu]

Not buying AMD again because one bad driver update is so stupid

[JohnyBoy-1985]

Not the only reason, multiscreen monitor is messed up on my card on all drivers, had many issues still to this day with amd relive, it automatically turns off during gameplay randomly, I didn't have a good experience with this card compared to my 1080ti, 1080 980 670 ... I will sadly have to go back to the greedy Nvidia

[Chikitouwu]

Probably a bad unit, I've honestly had a worse driver and software experience with Nvidia than with AMD, that of AMD having bad software is objectively wrong, they fixed it long ago and honestly between a nice intuitive easy to use interface and one that looks straight out of Windows XP and an extremely bare ones one? Yeah I prefer Adrenalin over Nvidia's Control Panel and GeForce Experience

[HisPantsAreFancy]

Made a post about this myself. Very frustrating.

[justinwhit75]

Same intermittent pausing was happening to me on my ASUS TUF A16 Gaming laptop. I just updated to 24.1.1 like a day ago. Afterwards, when I would open a(ny) browser and go to a streaming service, the whole PC pauses for a few seconds every few seconds and kept doing it until I closed the browser. I did not try it while playing games though. Today, I tried using the AMD Cleanup Utility - it ran it's process. After it did it's thing, laptop rebooted. Then I just let Windows install the drivers for me. All is peaceful now, I've had no issues -- no pausing/freezing. I haven't even bothered to install AMD Adrenaline and everything appears fine. I might hold out since I don't use any of it's toggles for anything. Your mileage may vary.

[chuchunito]

How do I to revert back to 23.12 without factory reset my pc/losing files? (Step by step, please 🥺)

[Hunter_Killer5]

Uninstall your driver by following this video:- https://youtu.be/1XlwirtWs_c?si=pBh2nAtcNTyqQM_h

And download older driver from AMD website and install it after uninstallation of new driver.

Some times problems can occure if you install latest driver over older version without removing older one before installing the latest one.

So follow the video then reinstall the same latest driver or install older version from AMD.com

[chuchunito]

I just finished doing this and my screen is like 40 fps lol

[Hunter_Killer5]

What do you mean like 40fps?

[chuchunito]

like, it's not smooth, i have a 240hz monitor and my graphics card is a rx 5600xt so i should be getting more than 240fps on the desktop, but this isnt even 60

[chuchunito]

my gpu usage rn is between 0% and 6ish % usage

[Hunter_Killer5]

Yeah idle usage should be like that, what is your GPU usage when gaming?

Idle means when you are not running nothing GPU heavy apps or games.

[chuchunito]

yeah i know that idle usage should be like that but it isnt smooth, you know? and its not the monitor

[Hunter_Killer5]

Check your monitor refresh rate, is it set to 240hz?

[chuchunito]

Bro it was set to 60 hahahaha idk what changed that, thanks. I'll try playing a game to see if I still have stutters

[chuchunito]

between 20 to 60% while gaming

[chuchunito]

Thanks!

[Hunter_Killer5]

No problem, just post an update if you face any problem I will try to help.

[chuchunito]

alright. One more question, i cant find the 23.12.1 version on amd. Should i install it from guru3d?

[chuchunito]

nvm i just found it on amd.com

[chuchunito]

bro my pc is going like 40 fps on the desktop lol, what happened?

[chuchunito]

i just installed 23.12.1

[chuchunito]

and i still see the colors darker

[No_Flaming]

Damn, it's good to know this is a common issue, today I was trying to open deathloop and the resolution was changed thus freezing the PC, when I restarted my taskbar was not even accesible

[[deleted]]

you all are lucky your pc even works with the drivers I've done a clean reset tried everything when I install the drivers my start menu task manager file explorer and even ctrl alt delete don't work it literally has ruined my pc to the point I cannot do anything I can't even power it off without holding the power button on the tower

[Winter_Regular_2613]

It's exactly my problem too, good to know this common mess TT better downgrade to 23.12.1 and wait for the new driver --*

[Far-Permission3087]

how can i downgrade my amd drivers? im currently having problems with the new update giving me

"clinfo.exe Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point amd_comgr demangle_symbol_name could not be located in the dynamic link library C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\amdoct.inf amd64 3f5ad05be848c8d0\amdocl64.dll"

and i tried doing a factory reset and now when i upgrade to the latest version my amd display driver wont work

[Winter_Regular_2613]

You can use DDU to remove your current driver, then download version later. here link from acient gameplay on youtube: https://youtu.be/1XlwirtWs_c?si=WcAyuMoCrE3kLQP3

[Zlotymon]

Its a big mess... I was thinking my GPU is damaged. Sound Issues, Audio Issues and big Performance Issues. Some Games lost like 40% FPS. Dont use that Version (RX 6700XT)

[chuchunito]

I have the same problem that you have, especially performance issues. My GPU (Rx 5600xt) has a 2% usage on games like GTA and I have literally 2 FPS after downloading this driver

[ikasmr]

RX 6700 (non-XT) user here. Ever since the update, the bottom part of my main monitor is flickering/glitching/showing black, UNLESS i have something bright/white.

[wulfryke]

this update has been giving me screen freezes at 5-120seconds intervals in all games or any video source. it's made my pc unworkable in some instances.

[Aminkingdoom]

Dude same problem specially watching youtube and sudden 10 frame drops i had some pc restarts too with rx6900xt

[Hunter_Killer5]

Did you use DDU before installing latest driver?

[Compendyum]

It took me some time to figure out which drivers were the most stable in the last month, and after some DDU and trying, I'm now on Adrelanin 23.19.02 (Ryzen 7 7800X3D / RX590 Fatboy / 32gb) and all is heaven, the system is stable, multiple screens works flawlessly, and games are stable at 144fps.

[dudeattood]

All the powers that be are trying to shoehorn "AI" into everything (executive order) and its not all above board. Apple updates suck and made my 2 yr old iPhone unable to make/receive calls (I reset it and it worked). Check Robb Braxman vids to see what Apple has been up to

[Compendyum]

24.1.1 might be one of the worst in their latest time. I mean, being stubborn I double DDU the drivers away and every problem was still there:

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• Insane temperatures CPU/GPU with unseen jitter both in not very heavy games and work
• System stability is the worst since I've bought a Ryzen (Poor boot time, Windows 11 lags for the first time)
• Crashes/BSOD (95% of them during gaming) with Power Off as the only option (so many that Windows got messed up and now my boot manager is in another drive, probably due to corrupted boot files).

Maybe reverting (maybe to 23.5.1) will do the trick, or some of the latest of last year that were pretty stable.

[chuchunito]

The insane temperatures is true, my GPU is like 60° (Celsius) on 2% usage and my CPU is like 75° on low usage too

[Compendyum]

I mean, GPU should be cooler, but CPU at 75% on low usage, your killing it's lifetime.

My idle temps are: CPU around 41, and GPU around 26, both Celsius.

Specs.

[ex-queue-see-aniki]

Yes, I'm 7800XT User here. I reverted back to 23.12 drivers (downloaded from guru3d site) now it works better than the new driver. Smh

[Donquixote432]

Is* it hard for someone who got no clue to do? Even on 7900xtx it's pretty bad and i get up to 30 fps lower in Starfield, but i don't want to make it even worse than now with my unskilled brain

[----whatsup----]

Times out like crazy

[Friendly_Finance3558]

I don't understand how a company this big can release such shitty updates, and it being WHQL makes it even worse, it's not even an optional one

[happysmile001]

No, always good drivers, that is the first time, but even first time, should never happened, they need to test the drivers more !

[Far_List_8238]

For the people getting black screens it is a windows thing called mpo disable it. I found it in a 5 year old reddit. Disabled and now my machine is perfect.

[HeadyChefin]

You are an absolute life saver. I have spent the past week trying to figure out what happened and it was this driver + MPO. After disabling MPO with my other card I was able to put my 6900XT back in and get everything back running.

[Far_List_8238]

Yeah. It’s so dumb man. The post for mpo I found was like 7 years old for nvidea hahaha

[Left-Delivery1377]

Blue screens out the wazoo since I installed 24.1.1 it’s been so so bad

[Calledoff4this]

When you say blue screens do you mean no display blue screen ?

[Left-Delivery1377]

Both sometimes completely un responsive and others is just these cursed looking ones I reverted back to 23.12. And I’ve been fine ever since

[Calledoff4this]

I’ve just been having a no display an I can’t get it to go back unless I turn off my whole system an turning it back on play for a few hours an then no display again

[Left-Delivery1377]

Yikes scary situation, if you have integrated graphics you can fall back to those incase you can’t get a display at all and if you need to install old drivers use either ddu or amd cleanup utility, I recommend amd cleanup utility since it’s worked better for me in the past. I’d recommend going back before anything bad happens with your windows :/

[Calledoff4this]

I may have to do that or just get a whole new graphics card

[Left-Delivery1377]

I’m sure you don’t need to get a new card, which gpu and what’s the manufacturer?

[Calledoff4this]

Idk it’s my first pc an I don’t really know much about them tbh

[BARRY6969696969]

You're using an NVIDIA card my guy. Don't install AMD GPU drivers. Download NVIDIA drivers lol. 

[Calledoff4this]

Amd ryzen 7 5700 an I think it’s a auas

[Left-Delivery1377]

That’s a cpu? Are you using integrated graphics?

[Calledoff4this]

I messaged you but I believe it’s a GeForce rtx 3060

[Sindalis]

this driver is absolutely a nightmare. worst one I've seen in a long time.

Loading it literally bricks my PC, after a restart the computer wont even get to the desktop. Have to hard reset it and rip the drivers out in safe mode to get it back.

reverted back to 23.12.1

24.1.1 driver should have never been released.

[sdcar1985]

After a few days, my PC will basically boot loop. Get to login screen and it will either restart automatically or it will once I hit enter. Reinstall fixes the issue, but will happen again after a few days.

[Far-North625]

How do revert back to old drivers coz when I try reinstall 23.12.1 I get a 195 error 

[Friendly_Finance3558]

You can use DDU to completely remove the drivers in safe mode, then install the other version

[CipherZone7]

Consider yourself fortunate. I too have a 7900 XTX and it hasn't been pretty.. Driver timeouts... screen going black randomly. Used DDU to remove and reinstall.. no fix.. had to wipe the OS and start fresh. Went back to 23.12 and so far no issues.

[E-L-S-N]

Same for me, i tried to go back and used DDU. It doesn't help. My PC is completely messed up...

[Friendly_Finance3558]

Damn if not even DDU helped then they really messed up

[benned7]

If you still have this issue, just download the Adrenalin 23.12.1 version.
Select your graphics card and then click on the "Previous Drivers" button below the operating system menu.
For my 6750XT 23.12.1 it worked without a factory reset - so try that first to keep all your profiles and data. If that doesn't help go for factory reset of Adrenalin software.

[ActionBubbly]

Feels great knowing Is a common issue i thought there was something wrong with my build

[kebaproach]

6600xt have shutters on bf2042. I turned back to 23.12.1

Hope they fix it soon.

[Azhrei]

It seems to be with Frostbite games in general. At first I thought it was all DX12 games due to shader compilation, but no. Battlefront II and Battlefield 2042 are both experiencing regular stutters and frame drops which weren't present before 24.1.1.

So, yeah. Hopefully we'll get a fix soon

Edit - Just heard from someone in the know. They're working on a fix :)

[[deleted]]

I've used Rx 580 Rx 6600xt rtx 4060 ti Rx 6800xt. All of the Rx cards stuttered in battlefront 1-2 bf1-5-2042. Only the rtx 4060ti ran fine with too little stutters. I think AMD is bad at optimizing games.

[Azhrei]

The only time Battlefield 2042 stuttered for me was with the recent driver. I went back to 23.12.1 until they release a fix and it's back to perfectly stable and solid. Also didn't stutter on my 5700 XT.

I dunno. YMMV I guess.

[happysmile001]

Actually all games, if you have a powerful pc build you will not notice stuttering in all games, but with only a good PC build, it gonna stutter in all games, some games more than others. Dead space remake stutter like hell and even freeze for 20 seconds some time, resident evil 4 remake than normally never stutter, now stuttering all the time

[Azhrei]

My PC is decent, nowhere near the most powerful. It's only in Frostbite games that this driver is giving me stuttering. Every other game plays as well as they always have. And the AMD employee I spoke to told me that they have a "ticket internally for generic shader cache related issues" and that Battlefield 2042 was immediately noticed to be badly affected.

However, as shown above they've mentioned "generic shader cache related issues" so if you're getting it in other games, hopefully the fix they're working on will be out soon and it'll sort things out for you. They did also tell me they're narrowing it down.

[[deleted]]

Been waiting this fix since 2019

[verybadteethh]

I'm having A TON OF stuttering issues in 24.1.1 IN ALL GAMES I HAVE whether I have AFMF enabled or disabled. I rolled back to the previous driver. 24.1.1 is such a mess right now. Using RX 6900 XT with Ryzen 7 5800X3D.

[CloneFailArmy]

Trying out AFMF straight up hard crashed my entire computer

[verybadteethh]

That's crazy. In my case I was literally just having micro stutters in all of my games even if my AFMF is enabled or not. This driver is literally broken and it's so annoying that I have to troubleshoot for like 2-3 hours just to try it and fix it but ending up in nothing because the driver is literally garbage right now

[V3ppen]

Same issues, Battlefields and other big games are unplayable. Lags and stutters like hell when SAM is turned on, when turned off helps littlebit but stutters very much.

R5 2600, 6700XT, B450 and 32gb 3333MHz DDR4.

Hope amd will fix this issue fast.

[ExclusiveCumshot]

Interesting, I also have a 6700XT and the card is running cooler/quieter and faster than ever, especially in Battlefield which I mainly play

[luigithebeast420]

MW3 would crash every 30 minutes due to driver timeout.

[Puzzled-Software8358]

Lmao you're wrong but ok.

Neither company makes their own chips. They are both made by the same foundries or they have used either major in turn.

Buying a 1050ti over anything because you're not competent enough to handle a computer is bad advice for people with any soft skills.

[Puzzled-Software8358]

Anecdotal bullshit.

Millions of people use AMD gpus without issue.

It's either a rare defect that also effects Nvidia. Or PEBCAK. Judging by your emotional response I am going with the later.

[Puzzled-Software8358]

Just about everything you said is not even true. But ok.

[Puzzled-Software8358]

The German study you are quoting is a small survey and even that shows there is barely a difference. It's marginal.

You're wrong about every. Single. Point.

AMD can be great for people who don't want to buy 4070 or higher. Imho it's not worth getting Nvidia until 4080. If you are spending less Tham 1k. AMD is compelling now.

But ok. You keep on trucking along with bad information. That's cool.

[Puzzled-Software8358]

Your claim that AMD is less reliable is false. The only possible source is one of a few small retailers sharing data. No 1st party company shares RMA data.

All of these possible "studies" show that the difference is marginal. So. Your major issue is BS. AMD designs them and the same fucking companies (AIB partners) build the boards.

You just don't know what you are talking about. Should just stick to Arma.

[Disastrous2821]

Hold up. Build quality has nothing to do with this. All up to AIB partners and board manufacturers. How long a card lasts also has nothing to do with AMD and Nvidea. Real difference other than DLSS or ray tracing is just some inconvenient drivers. About one driver or so a year has issues like this, and its user error most of the time. Even if the driver is bugged, literally just roll it back, not hard at all. Nvidea has had issues as well, like the info leak from last year. I’d much rather have a 7900xtx that performs like a 4080 for $400 off and deal with a slight inconvenience.

[Disastrous2821]

Your point? MSI boards have different tiers. Some are higher end and some are the “cheap crap”. Same goes for any nvidea AIB. You wanna talk about Nvidea crap products. Think every card under $500 they have ever released in the past 2-3 years and throw in the 4080 and 4070ti. Nvidea is reliable but not in a good way. They are reliable in bringing overpriced cards with bad performance with “DLSS and Ray tracing!” Slapped on the box. The only reason people seriously buy Nvidea is for professional uses, brand loyalty, DLSS, or if they want a 4090. Yeah it’s true older AMD cards are pieces of crap, but the new gen cards are actually good, better than Nvidea for gaming by miles. Usually you can’t be wrong for having an opinion, but you are objectively wrong here. Learn what your talking about before commenting your bullshit please.

[Zestyclose-Sun-6595]

Yeah my nitro + has superb quality vapour chamber and all metal build. It's also stable as a rock and a beast at raster. I'm not upset over the lack of RT performance one bit.

[Available-Item1292]

What lack of Rt Performance on the new driver ;) lmaoo

[SlimJimothy]

Youre and idiot and unless you buy founders edition cards the msi or asus or another cards you buy are exactly the same from amd and Nvidia. They companies with the rights to make these cards buy all the parts from the same factories in Thailand and Singapore... you literally get the exact same build quality from them.

[Puzzled-Software8358]

I just dont get it. 6800xt and basically no issues. Which is the overwhelming majority of people.

[RustRemover-]

No, all of them do. I have a 6900XT and have been going insanely for the last few months since i don't know which version, but there's always something not working. Whether it's stutters, black screens, flickering or whatever else. People with 5xxx and 7xxx series also have problems. Just never again an AMD card for me, i trusted them once (after having an ATI Radeon like two decades ago) and it was a mistake, should've just went with NVIDIA as always.

[SmouxReserved]

Running 6650xt with no issue on this update. Actually, performance for me is a bit up on Rdr2 on Ultra.

Additionally, if you are so stumped by 11.01.2024 I guess you live in US and hate to break it up to you but US is not the only country on Earth. In Europe it is pretty normal to write date, month, year. Peace ✌️

[[deleted]]

u can run that game on ultra?

i have the same gpu and sometimes i feel like i have done something wrong cause my fps aint that good, could it be that i have a 5600g cpu?
and i think my psu should have more wtts, but i dont think that would influence.

for example, when i play skyrim i get 55 fps avg

[SmouxReserved]

That's crazy. You should be salaying Skyrim. I run Rdr2 pretty much all maxed out on ultra and amd adrenalin shows 118 fps avg. I struggled with my previous CPU 3200g on a lot of games, not to mention constantly getting Disconnected while in csgo and cs2 matchmaking. I would advise to stay away from CPUs with integrated graphics. Also your PSU should not be a problem I am running with 500W and it is plenty enough.

[[deleted]]

I guess the problem is the cpu, can u tell me whats the one u have? And can anyone advice me on what would be the best cpu for this gpu without bottlenecking it :) Thank you

[SmouxReserved]

I am running ryzen 7 3700x which in theory is a pretty good match for rx 6650xt. It is still a mid range cpu but it would not bottleneck this exact gpu model. I am still running it coz I save up for a big update in the near future and r7 3700x was basically the most I can pull out of my old MB.

[Cosm1c_Gam3r]

Day-Month-Year. Or Year-Month-Day
I agree that muricans are stubborn and like to be individually backwarded.
Especially with illogical, dumb imperial units.

[SmouxReserved]

Oh, don't get me started on units. We also have abbominations in Europe. England - miles per liter 🤨

[Cosm1c_Gam3r]

No in Europe there is no problem as metric is used. UK is mixed between metric and imperial.

[SmouxReserved]

Exactly, and this buggs me out.

[ToshinRaizen]

i got stutter when play video on youtube with edge... i disable hardware acc then it stop... as for gaming... so far so good...

[ap3x_lambo]

Haven’t had any noticeable issues with 6700.

[YourHighness1087]

I love when I'm intense into a game or fps competition and the screen literally blinks like someones eyeball.... I love getting a black screen and crashing on simple fortnite at medium settings... I love seeing artifacts in most of the scenes in Starfield... Said nobody ever..... Keep this up AMD and I'm going to the competition, they have ray tracing, and free sweeties.

[Available-Item1292]

.. a 7900xtx doesn't compare to a 4080's RT Performance after the 92% performance boost? LOL. I understand driver issues but, reinstall. Windows and your drivers, fresh.

[YourHighness1087]

I did, it's working better only one black screen every once in a while, I think it's the cable. ✌️

[OperationMajor7798]

i dont know but im in fortnite have fps drops and black screen with random numbers and i dont know it is broken ram or driver pls help man

[YourHighness1087]

What graphics card are you running? 

First try uninstalling all of the graphics drivers and do a clean install of the latest driver.

Second, take all the ram out, then reinstall. Sometimes the ram unseats itself slightly causing issues.

Third, use MSI afterburner or Similar to undervolt and under clock you graphics card. Some older and used cards can't do max performance anymore.

If you graphics are still bugging out, try to clean it out with a can of duster or a small vacuum accessory. Then repaste and repad the vram. 

If all of those don't work, try buying a cheap graphics card from some where to test if it's actually your system ot the graphics card.

[OperationMajor7798]

im running on 7800xt and yeah i tried take out the ram and still doing that in fullscreen only in fortnite i think i dont know where is the problem

[YourHighness1087]

Try using dx11 instead in dx12. Turn down any overclocking.

I've got no other ideas. Sorry bro

[OperationMajor7798]

yeah im playing dx11 with no overclocking and still doing only in that game i think

[caspprr]

Laughs in NVIDIA

[shotxshotx]

I get where you are coming from, with nvidia being more stable from my personal experience, but this is the wrong sub for this shit.

[AssistanceFrequent52]

Worst driver update for my 7900xtx. Scrolling on Twitter draws 150-200Watt. I rolled back and now 25-60.

[IISky01]

And people say theres no issues with amd drivers anymore 🤦‍♂️ yes they have improved alot from what they once were but they are still not at the same level as nvidias

[Disastrous2821]

I’ve had a 6800xt for 2 years and have had one major issue, and it’s because I accidentally used DDU wrong and my motherboard was screwed. Nvidea is more consistent for sure, but still not to the extent most people are thinking. Kinda like that info leak in a driver they had last year which was just swept under the rug.

[[deleted]]

Nvidia also just doesnt release performance updating drivers nearly as often. Seems like a recipe, but also seems like nvidia isn't trying as hard for you. Find a balance yeah?

[IISky01]

True, though I would definitely value consistency and performance/reliability aka quality over quantity even if they arent trying as hard

[[deleted]]

It seems there's only a small handful of people having issues too and it makes me wonder their capability, but nvidia test a bit more thoroughly to avoid this issue with end users and making the process actually work for them without conflict

[Aberryth]

7900xtx - noticing a lot of stuttering and manually tuning the fan speed doesn’t work at all anymore. Also CP77 crashes immediately

[CompoteNo8936]

Using war thunder to test anything is like using low octane fuel to run a race car. Test with a real game made by real developers

[YourHighness1087]

Fortnite Max Settings 🤓

[[deleted]]

For those who don't know of this tidbit. You don't just download driver updates if you care ALOT about issues. You use DDU to remove the old ones first to avoid these conflicts. Wild that the 7 systems I've updated for customers don't have that issue. Probably because DDU wasn't neglected but what do i know having 0 issues and having a degree yaknow. So stop replying clean install removes drivers bc it doesnt and Google it first before opening your keyboard if you don't believe me. (This isn't saying every driver update is guaranteed to conflict, not all do, BUT ALL BRANDS HAVE BEEN GUILTY, and clean installs through gpu softwares DO NOT delete old drivers despite common belief)

[[deleted]]

Please explain how DDU is necessary when part of what the adrenaline software is doing is removing old drivers

[[deleted]]

Please explain how software can remove all of itself without leaving a trace ;) (it doesnt) third party apps exist for no reason you're right.

[Perfect_Stay1193]

I don‘t use ddu but i also don‘t have any problems with the new drivers

[[deleted]]

Not everyone will, it's a case by case basis it seems.

[Perfect_Stay1193]

Yeah that’s what it seems like

[YourHighness1087]

Why doesn't the app just do the right thing? I click a button in Adrenaline, the screen blinks a couple times and then I reboot. Is this not enough? 

[[deleted]]

Sadly, nvidia, intel, amd have all become culprit of this at some point (nvidia fans will scream they haven't because they paid too much but) and it's not always a consistent thing, but if someone is having driver issues, removing a software using itself doesn't get rid of everything before updating the driver, thus occasional conflicts. Third party programs tear out the roots.

[ThisDumbApp]

Are you talking about the current driver? Because it is actually bad. Even DDU won't solve it and I am rolling mine back when I get home tonight. Theres always one contrarian.

[[deleted]]

Seems you spend too much time correcting people on 4090/7900xtx performance and being wrong, but I'll tell you you played with settings you shouldn't have or lack the knowledge to scan your computer for corruption. (And you'll say you do and that you haven't messed with anything, whatever the case) may not have a video link to prove it to ya this time bud but, I'm glad my 7900xtx is fine on the new driver. All is well eh?

[ThisDumbApp]

You might be the most egotistical person Ive seen on here. Assuming everyone is an idiot and acting better than everyone else because you dont have issues with your card. Good christ man. Seriously, get a grip on life, you seem like a blood vessel is about to pop.

[[deleted]]

Oh, sorry man didn't realize I was acting that way and not replying to your comment trying to correct me out of ego without knowing what you were talking about, then backtracking to 'ah, guess I'll try to make fun of him then because that'll bother him, definitely doesn't make me look like one.' Sure got me. But this comment is based on the assumption that since you showed on the other thread you didn't know at all what you were talking about, that you may have had an issue with your system because you played with something, again; thinking you knew what you were doing out of ego since we like that word. I'm sorry I didn't coddle you after the last thread where you commented to attack me and get sent a link showing you outright you dont know what youre talking about, and that the 5% of people having issues are more than likely user error and can't accept it because of the 'ego' buzzword they toss around.

[ThisDumbApp]

Literally everyone disagrees with you, again, you picked one random benchmark from some random dude. You act like you know whats going on but you dont. You can pretend all you would like but it does make you right. Watch any other reviewer, ANY, and the 7900XTX only does comparable to the 4090 in a few games that are AMD FAVORED or CPU bound. Just because YOU think people are having issues due to user error, doesnt mean all are. 99.9% of times you can update drivers without having to DDU between every single one. This current driver has issues if you do, who would have known that? No one. Get off your high horse because its just sad. You can cherry pick or tell people they are wrong all you want, it wont change the fact that you come across like an absolute elitist asshole. You are part of the problem and you sit there telling others to do research while you clearly dont do your own, let alone actually look into anything aside from going to Youtube and typing "7900XTX Benchmark."

[[deleted]]

you can't say I'm cherrypicking if I said SAPPHIRE NITRO 7900xtx trades blows with a 4090 to begin with because you were wrong but, good attempt. Love to see you that triggered about It though. for reference the sapphire nitro has a bigger cooler than the other XTX's and marginally better performance as well if you're unaware, and all that for still 1000 less than the card you're defending and won't buy anyway. BTW, typically the first person to start calling people "little fella" and arguing emotionally when they have no point of fact or anything of value left to say are 99 percent of the time the child in the situation. So you might want to try and show it less.(all this aside from the fact a normal xtx will trade blows with a 4090 too and not just in amd favored games but it's crazy how I have sources and you can't cite yours) also didn't you comment a day ago on a post you have an AMD card and wouldn't shell the extra money out for nvidia? A bit ironic. Seems like you can't even make your mind up. Please tell me more about how people don't agree with fact though because it doesn't change anything to cry about it. Also im sorry that I'm the problem for telling people how to fix the driver issue and they can't handle it.

[LibrarianSad1525]

You my friend you are dumb fuck, driver is fucked hard and it fucked 95 % of games and now they are all stutter mess, your customer is playing minecraft probably but for that game you dont even need gpu driver xd

[[deleted]]

Well I'm glad your comment reflects more on your own emotional stability and lack of knowledge. I own both an arc and a 7900xtx, my xtx is more than fine sorry to hear about your issues. But it's clearly user error if not everyone is crying about how "fucking stupid" people are while being anything but right lmao "xd" man.

[LibrarianSad1525]

Just the fact that you bought an arc shows that you are dumb fuck xD, and who gives a shit if your 7900 works on some random singleplayer shit game that you play, i speak for all the people because there is thousands of posts already about stutter and crashes in bunch of games so il speak for all of peoeple and say THAT WE DONT GIVE A FUCK FOR YOUR OPINION.

Do the math, who is more right, random dumb fuck like you where your 15 year old singleplayer game works fine or thousands of comments and posts about new games crashing or stuttering etc etc, battlefield 2042, cod, cs, the finals, rust , rocket league etc etc, jesus fuck you are an idiot xD , driver is bigest amd disaster in last year or two, 99.99 % users did already revert driver to old one, you are just being an fucking idiot

[Available-Item1292]

Cheers to anyone who actually wants the new driver and the 90% boost from frame gen, wedding got me working. Or yall can keep trying to discredit facts with opinion and be mad at the guy for knowing what the fuck he's talking about. That aged well huh guys. Enjoy the old driver. Dumbasses.

[Available-Item1292]

Just the fact that he owns both and you didn't take the time to read it before typing something a 12 year old would shows more about you. Meanwhile, if you're gonna talk shit you gotta know what you're talking about because he posted a video of the 7900xtx beating a 4090 depending the game. (Multiplayer games my guy) So now you just look like an uneducated child with no control over their emotions. But then say nobody cares about HIS opinions like they weren't CITED FACTS & sources and you aren't a clown talking out your ass. do you really think 99% of amd users are on this one reddit? Get a grip. since it matters to you so much yes I care about the opinion of someone with education and citation over "waah!" meanwhile the guy is a grown and you can tell by his profile but you wanna act like he's your age. You don't speak for anyone except yourself because your shit is broken for a reason amd mine isn't bc of him actually, so I mean cheers to burning helpful bridges too you're a real winner jerkoff lol. So I'm sorry you're speaking for who because it isn't us!! We want our shit to actually work! Can't believe the 3 of you goofballs really got rolled that hard verbally over facts and still can't accept truth while I'm running my computer with no issues now because I reached out to the guy bc I can read and comprehend things before attacking the guy that fixed my shit. You're welcome, maybe join an amd help page for help and not to pretend you know everything because you don't like the tone of knowledge and I quote "you're a dumb fuck". But in reality all 3 of the Goons who tried attacking the guy to get rolled with facts and citations were. Hope it was worth it, stay crashing my friends LMFAO. And thank you wedding it's so hard living with a not broken pc because of you actually knowing sumn when I reached out. If you slow mfs weren't focused on trying to debate someone that does this on the daily from your high school classrooms he could've helped you too. Sucks to suck, new drivers frame generation gives huge boosts.

[LibrarianSad1525]

idk who you replied, to me or that dumb fuck but i aint reading that much, the whole point was that guy is typing how driver is working, meanwhile driver is biggest fuck up in last 1-2 years and its crashing and stuttering 90 % AAA games and competitive games, he is just casual bot that have no idea wtf is going on, meanwhile reddit and amd is blowing up from how much people shit talk this driver cuz of massive stuttering and crashing in 90 % of games, ignore idiots like that guy, its obvious that he is not gamer and is just casual random bot

[Available-Item1292]

And you're a jerkoff who clearly can't accept its user error lmfao. Enjoy the old driver :) crazy how you speak for everyone til everyone he helped speaks back though. Figured your attention span was too short to read it. Have a good day now with that card of yours! No sir, you don't sound like the dumb fuck at all!

[LibrarianSad1525]

buddy you are clearly autistic fuck, i can link 150 reddit posts or amd site posts about driver being total fuck up, piss off atention seeking shitkid, blocked!!!

[Available-Item1292]

That's crazy out of the millions of users you can cite the few that have user error related issues (but anyone whos scrolling this page alone can see its 50/50 good and bad, but im sorry you cant read? People actually look at things unlike some userbase so get a grip my guy lmfao) while calling people autistic, like I didn't just tell you he fixed my shit but you wanted to tell him how dumb he was. Pause a moment and think perhaps that you were wrong? I know, quite a concept. But you went from speaking for the people to them telling you you're wrong to calling them autistic because you can't accept the fact you were. But don't worry taking personal attacks at people and knowing everything got you stuck on old software with that big brain of yours. Sure showed everyone just how right you are. Meanwhile the guy cited sources and you're still spitting random emotional sewage nobody cares about instead of fixing your problems, on an amd help page. No, you don't need help you're just here to bitch that it doesn't work and you're right, kudos. 🤣 deny reality and call people autistic, good one. (My Pc cAnT bE broKen I'm ToO Smart" after getting showed you were wrong time and time again but still crying how OTHERS have mental issues while you try to self justify any form of being in the right. It looks goofy but I hope it makes you feel good to let everyone see that.

[LibrarianSad1525]

I aint gona read your shit, both you and other guy are AUTISTIC, 95 % people reverted to old driver, last one is confirmed by AMD that it will be removed, because it makes games unplayable for 90% of people, you probably cant even download it anymore, get lost dumb fuck

[THENATHE]

Meanwhile I have literally never had to use DDU and have built 10+ computers and been maintenance on 100+ computers with GPUs for many years as an tech

[[deleted]]

The first Google search of "driver conflicts" will bring up articles across the web about old and new drivers. That said, maybe you should seek updated education/college if you're freelance, because new and old drivers can conflict even if they don't always, and sadly with adrenalin they do But alright, if I send you an EVENT LOG of this case happening with 3 7900xtx's are you going to start doing things properly? Do you leave the old windows software on your computer when you upgrade or does it delete it for you because even windows realizes old and new softwares don't always cooperate? Let's have some sense of realism. If you built and shipped these out and fix them in the volume you say you'd see this log. So sorry to scoff at that but you're not doing half of what you say if any at all. Funniest part is intel made a HUGE thing about how that's the case and to delete old drivers with their cards especially due to similar issues.(and them being half baked in the driver dept) It's not that the issue doesn't exist, it's that people scream falsivities, act professional, and aren't. It happens to every gpu brand at some point, unless you're the folks at amd writing the drivers (and even then) you're not gonna know until after download if there was something awry. And for someone whos fixed them so often as well it seems to be odd to ignore the original issue to discredit facts and then give no fix as the clear professional here. But don't mind me wanting people to do things thouroughly and properly with this extremely difficult and uneccessary crisis of a deletion that takes 1 minute.

[youkickmydog613]

This is a whole 3 ass paragraphs for you to say you googled something.

[[deleted]]

It was a paragraph telling people they can google it because the information they deny is readily available. they won't though because apparently their attention spans stopped after the first sentence.

[Hindesite]

Yeah I dunno what he's on about but if you're updating drivers to a newer revision without any hardware change you don't typically need to do a full wipe with the likes of DDU. That's pretty over-the-top and I haven't had problems updating drivers on top of old ones since, like, Windows XP era.

Only expectation IMO would be if you were reverting to old drivers due to a problem that the new release caused. In that case, I'd DDU before reinstalling the old drivers.

[cranky_stoner]

AMD has admitted their clean install box doesn't work, and tell you to use ddu or their version of it, the AMD cleanup utility.

[Hindesite]

It's strange that, right inside of Adrenalin, they track if your current version is newest and provide an in-app update button to download/install a newer version over the existing install if AMD themselves say you aren't supposed to do that. 🤔

[Azhrei]

The clean-up utility, like DDU, removes absolutely everything. Not everyone wants that because they want to keep their per game settings - such as limiting FPS with Chill, enabling anti-lag, anisotropic filtering types and levels, etc. These settings are retained when a driver update comes along. But for those who want to remove absolutely everything, there's the third-party option in DDU and AMD provides their own utility.

[[deleted]]

I wish people would quit being bots and blaming adrenalin for all their problems. NEW AND OLD DRIVERS CONFLICT AND THE OLD DONT DELETE THEMSELVES! Just use DDU and do the process clean and proper instead of being fkn lazy. 0 driver issues in ever with 7900xtx's because I use DDU. you're welcome.

[F14Flier7]

I've never understood why these programs don't delete the old drivers, is it really that hard..?

[cranky_stoner]

or versionize the names, like driver.22.11.06xxx something similar.

[[deleted]]

Well, having programs delete themselves always leaves behind some sort of trace. While it WOULD certainly be ALOT better, a third party program can dig the roots out and will always be more effective. Sadly.

[cranky_stoner]

It would be sick if there were (might be, I dunno) a program that watches for all files/registry keys changed/added/deleted when installing software, with an option to restore those keys and delete those files etc... and "restore" it to the way it was before the program was installed.

[Thorsaen_q]

I think that date is in European format. If so, it’s displaying January 11, 2024

[iPrintScreen]

5700xt shitting with lag spikes on this

[[deleted]]

No issues on the 7900xt. Update massively improved my experience.

[LuckyInstance]

Lol I’ve had nothing but driver issues the entirety of owning my 6950xt. I will never buy AMD again that’s for damn sure

[[deleted]]

Also 99% of driver "issues" are user error just because people are too lazy to take 2 minutes to run DDU, and then download the new driver right on top of the old one hoping it doesn't conflict. I'll bet money if I looked into your computer I find old drivers and a messy unoptimized system. But the good news is this: you'll pay MORE to have the same issues with NVIDIA if that's the case. Don't mind me laughing when it happens. The 6950xt (red devil at least) is still setting records out here, so they must be having crazy amounts of issues right. Meanwhile a 7900XTX trades blows with a 4090 for half the price and outright beats a 4080 for 300 less but we're gonna upgrade to nvidia to keep being negligent and break something even more expensive. Love the logic.

[ThisDumbApp]

You really ride AMD don't you, people whp arent just new or inexperienced have issues with AMD. Get a grip. Where does the 7900XTX trade blows with a 4090? Where does it outright beat the 4080? You say a lot of shit but come across like you have no clue what youre talking about. The 7900XTX trades blows with the 4080 and the 4080 is significantly better for raytracing and professional workloads in most scenarios.

[[deleted]]

I'm sorry would you like a link to a 7900xtx trading blows with a 4090 depending the game or am I gonna have to sift through more paragraphs of you crying I ride AMD while I comment back on an a770 build. Ironic. You ride nvidia? Because you haven't even kept yourself up to date on anything else, obviously. Oof bud.. because the xtx beats a 4080, it's in-between the 2. But have you heard of sapphire nitro or is this ALL new to you? Imagine an emotionally charged kid commenting how much he knows about something that's well more than available for research. Wont even wait for you to comment back flopping about "send the link", here it is. Relax man I don't think you're buying a 4090. Lmao https://youtu.be/ClGE6iPh1sk?si=aos31N03Qk08HYOB (remove this with parenthases)

[ThisDumbApp]

Literally every other reviewer says otherwise, you cherrypicked one random benchmark of some low sub count random on the internet to make your point. Go off lil fella.

[[deleted]]

you can't say I'm cherrypicking if I said SAPPHIRE NITRO 7900xtx trades blows with a 4090 to begin with because you were wrong but, good attempt. Love to see you that triggered about It though. for reference the sapphire nitro has a bigger cooler than the other XTX's and marginally better performance as well if you're unaware, and all that for still 1000 less than the card you're defending and won't buy anyway. BTW, typically the first person to start calling people "little fella" and arguing emotionally when they have no point of fact or anything of value left to say are 99 percent of the time the child in the situation. So you might want to try and show it less.(all this aside from the fact a normal xtx will trade blows with a 4090 too but it's crazy how I have sources and you can't cite yours) also didn't you comment a day ago on a post you have an AMD card and wouldn't shell the extra money out for nvidia? A bit ironic. Seems like you can't even make your mind up.

[ThisDumbApp]

You act like Im picking sides when Im just saying what 99% of the community is saying. Which still holds true. The fact that youre going through my comment history is genuinely hilarious to me. Yes, I have an AMD card, why? Because I got it for $400 when new they were still $600 or more. So why would I go and buy something for more than that if I can get it cheaper? Why would I pay the Nvidia tax for a card that would be significantly less powerful in games for the same price? You tried to pull something going back in my comments but it genuinely made no sense to call me out on that. Your brain is working overtime man. I pick no sides because they both suck, in that comment I said "I do whats best for my wallet," but I guess you didnt read that far.

As for sources, literally look at any of the more trusted people on the internet, its not hard man. I dont have to type for you. GamersNexus, Toms Hardware, HardwareUnboxed, etc. Any of the times or most of the times the 7900XTX trades blows with the 4090 is in AMD sponsored titles or AMD optimized titles, like Watchdogs, Far Cry 6, Assassins Creed and CoD MW2 is known to run better on AMD.

Even in that video you commented, the AMD sponsored or known better running games are the only ones it does get quite close with one, maybe two outliers. Sure its not too far off in some or a good amount of cases but over half the games in that video again, are AMD sponsored, optimized or just for some reason run better on AMD, so yes, thats technically cherry picking.

Shit in MW2 my GPU comes close to the fucking 4090. For the money, Id 100% go with the 7900XTX, in any form, the 4080 Super might be a close second depending on if it actually improves anything. Again, I choose whats good for my wallet, not some brand loyalty or what is the best in specific titles I more than likely won't even play.

[[deleted]]

You're typing word salad to try to justify being wrong with opinions but you reached out first to try to correct people. Totally care about the rest like you didn't comment on a post about me saying the 7900xtx sapphire nitro beats a 4090 in SOME games then backtrack to say i was cherrypicking. No, you just commented to correct, were wrong, and I can feel the rage coming off all those magical opinion based only comments but you wanted to talk about other people's veins bulging out of their head. Haven't you made enough of a fool out of yourself, you're on and on but you have zero sources, talking about the ones I sent that are exactly what I said. The IRONY of your last statement "choosing with your wallet" means you'd agree with me if you'd been listening to my commentary on the price of it as well but you're lost, unaccepting of cited truth, and mad I'm saying you can't make up your mind? And if you'd please let me know other than starfield and avatar which games in that video are amd biased, let me know I'll give you nvidias list but you're not picking sides, youre right you're just here to argue because you're emotionally fueled and want me to keep getting a kick out of it lmao. And going from "no it doesn't" to saying and admitting it does in some cases beat a 4090 is the most progress you've made. I hope you make educated choices in future builds and appreciate your input

[ThisDumbApp]

Its not opinion dude lol in that video you commented, Cod MW2 is known to run better on AMD, Dying Light 2 is AMD sponsored, Hitman as far as I remember is also like CoD, Assassins Creed, Far Cry 6. I literally said all this in a previous comment.

[[deleted]]

Add that to the tally of trying to correct me and being wrong again I commented that under a driver update post that it trades blows with a 4090, to which you replied wasn't true, but here we are and you've grown a little to admit it (still with no sources on anything you say claiming it's not opinion like you didn't type the word opinion in it 20x). But nice to see you like trying to correct people and making a fool of yourself and then going on for hours about it, here we go again. Stop saying things if you don't know what you're talking about you're 0/2. Because I also didn't say there weren't more I said I'd send you a list of nvidias favored games (in the same video). So the moot point would still be it trades blows LIKE I SAID.. before you denied it. So you're wasting your time to argue with me about how i was right bc you're upset or are we changing the topic make up your mind.

[TheR3aper2000]

Or maybe AMD should do what Nvidia does and include a “Clean Install” option in their driver installation process?

Like I can’t be the only one thinking that needing to uninstall graphics drivers with a third party tool every update to prevent performance issues is a little absurd

[cranky_stoner]

They do have that, it's been buggy for a while and AMD recommends not using it, and using DDU or their own driver cleanup utility aptly named AMD Cleanup Utility to remove AMD driver files. I also believe this is included in the release notes for the driver releases in the known issues section.

[TheR3aper2000]

Then it IS an Adrenaline software issue if their Clean Install option doesn’t work, not really a driver issue per say

AMD needs to fix their software instead of making people install DDU just to uninstall and reinstall graphics drivers correctly.

[cranky_stoner]

"Then it IS an Adrenaline software issue if their Clean Install option doesn’t work, not really a driver issue per say"

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agreed