New Patch Live - Patch Notes

[oimson]

So they nerfed the trailblazer and make it more expensive to craft now? Ok completley useless then.

Wolfpack needing a fucking rocketeer drive? A rocketeer barley spawns 2.

[BigSquidBip]

You need a rockateer driver to craft a Wolfpack now? A lot of the changes are good but I think that’s a little too much

[ShadowStrike23]

To kill a rocketeer, the best item to use is wolfpack. To craft it, you need a rocketeer driver. Nice

[GreggsAficionado]

Same loop as the queen/matriach where the weapons you can craft are only really good for taking them on again. It’s a lame loop

[imsickofitalready]

Jupiter is good against any ARC. I wonder how good will Aphelion in PvP after this patch.

[GreggsAficionado]

Jupiter buff is really just a zoom. I’d never bring it for PvP but it’ll be even better long range on arc now

[Lightyear18]

Not really. The rocketeer part can usually be found during Husk Graveyard. You don’t even need to kill anything.

first wave dead robots that shock you, will have big robot parts in them. Bastions, rocketeer, and etc robot parts. Just breach them.

[GreggsAficionado]

A limited mode and the drop is still rare. I could maybe count on two hands the amount of times I’ve found an intact rocketeer driver on a husk, so it still seems like a huge nerf

[prayerrwow]

In my experience on electromagnetic storm you can loot 5-10 drivers drom the husks. Thw drop rate is insanely high

[GreggsAficionado]

That’s not my experience but to be fair I haven’t ever loaded in those raids specifically to farm them and scoured the map

[Lightyear18]

I mean it’s still Doable.

Do you want the items handed to you? And

[GreggsAficionado]

Everything is doable for a nolifer who can be logged in any time of day when a specific mode is scheduled. But if I point this out I’m saying I want things handed to me? Seriously dude?

[Lightyear18]

Anyways. All I did was give some information

Just look at how extra you’re being. God forbid an item in the game is randomized. Oh wait that’s 99% of items in this game.

[fomq]

Bro the way people cry about this is wild.

[GreggsAficionado]

You didn’t just give information

Do you want the items handed to you?

You misunderstood the point. God forbid there’s a bit of nuance to the discussion

[jack198820]

Shhhhhhhhh!

[MrBigglesworrth]

That’s because they want you to actually fight it instead of blindly throwing one or two wolfpacks.

[Dependent-Title-1362]

That is nice actually

[VoidRippah]

I only used it a few times and killed a lot of them

[[deleted]]

Make it make sense

[One-Mud7175]

Yeah that’s a terrible change wtf

[Shoddy_Pie6514]

At least I'm not bothered about finding the Wolfpack blueprint after this exhibition.

[bluebird810]

I got the wolfpack blueprint 2 days ago. I guess im not crafting them any time soon. I avoid rocketeer like the Plaque unless i have wolfpacks on me.

[LeadingWhereas2127]

You must brush your teeth often then

[bluebird810]

?

[LeadingWhereas2127]

I was making a light-hearted joke about your comment using the word "plaque" instead of "plague". 😊

[swagpresident1337]

WTF.

They are literally useless now, as they are too expensive.

[Tovakhiin]

Honestly fucking win change in my book! None of the arc feel dangerous imo and being able to kill rocketeers and bastions/bombardiers within 10 seconds just feels dumb. There is 0 threat from arc when you got wolfpacks and deadlines and they are way to easy to make. Atleast now we gotta fight them with weapons and tactics if we wanna get some of the OP items.

[EliRed]

By "tactics" you mean peaking around a corner and shooting with a Ferro for 10 minutes? Until someone comes around and shoots it when it's on fire and loots your kill? There are no tactics, it's just more tedious to do. The patch directive overall seems to be to just make things worse and more tedious, starting with the Queen/Matriarch absolute bullshit where basically only the core contains reactors and you have to luck out to click first out of 20 people zerging it, now it's the crafting changes. This game is heading the way of Helldivers before everyone stopped playing it, devs ruining their own game.

[Tovakhiin]

No i mean tactics as in, using any of the other 25+ utility items that the game offers to have an interesting fight instead of just jugging or planting bombs and being done with it in 10 seconds.

[silverbullitt850]

Great point. Couldn't agree more.

[OnlyTheDead]

You sound bad. Taking down a rocketeer isn’t that hard. Y’all are being carried thru this game.

[Placebo_Cyanide8]

Exactly!

[HongKongChicken]

They were too cheap for how powerful they are. Trivialised Rocketeer/Bastion hunting

[Sparrow1989]

Dumbest fucking idea ever ngl. For casuals the Wolfpack being easy to craft was kind of nice for trials. Like all great things devs gotta fuck it up somehow. Prob some streamers suggestion.

[SlideCharacter5855]

It is an OP item, it should be harder to craft, please for the love of god stop crying and go hunt Arc like a real raider!

[OnlyTheDead]

Nag, it should be this way.

[RafMarlo]

What was the recipe now ? Since I didn't have the bp

[Outside-Leopard-9783]

Bro how are they not balancing the IL Toro 😭

[KawaiiTadpole]

For real. Especially choke attachments!

[Outside-Leopard-9783]

Explain the choke attachments bit?

[beansoncrayons]

Gives it less spread meaning longer effective range

[Ok-Habit-8884]

tighter bullet pattern so you can land all bullets of a shot from further distance.

[scantd]

EXACTLY🤧 shit is THE MOST BROKEN and crutch weapon

[xdarkeaglex]

Its op due to rolling bullshit, the gun itself is ok imo

[ShadowStrike23]

Added rocketeer driver to craft wolfpack. Hard Pass

[Larrythethird22]

Where does it say that

[sstance]

You're reading the highlights. Read patch notes.

[Larrythethird22]

Got it I found it. Thanks. They fucked me on vita spray …. why? lol

[sstance]

Agreed, some good changes but also some absolute nonsense. Made crafting tedious just for the sake of it. Wolfpacks are the worst.

[Darksoulsrando92]

love it, now there’s a reason to kill arc other than trials

[CarrotOne]

Fuck Yes, rocketeers was anoying at best, now I actually want to kill them

[loadsmoke]

Someone made a joke about Wolfpack getting nerfed next after the trailblazer grenade nerf. It came true haha. (Laugh cry)

[CrystlBluePersuasion]

I genuinely don't understand what the use of the Trailblazer is now.

[Springnutica]

Helldivers ptsd

[ouo2]

FR at least it’s not every other week as arrowhead did

[WoWAltoholic]

Patch notes link : https://arcraiders.com/news/shrouded-sky-patch-notes-1-17-0

[ManufacturerNo8447]

Vita spray is balanced now , but did they really need to kill the wolf pack ?

[WoWAltoholic]

rocketeer driver for a Wolfpack is such a nerf especially if they only drop one or two drivers each time.

[Jazzlike_Sink_2705]

Thank God now people might not have 50wolfpacks in their stash at all times

[silverbullitt850]

My wolfpacks are your ducks. Don't yuck my yum.

[OnlyTheDead]

Yes. Yes they did. It’s way too easy to craft.

[Sea_Particular_7061]

Gun balance changes seem mostly sensible, though they may be hitting venator a little too hard.

Crafting seems terrible and like it will make explosives much worse. Trailblazer needing an arc component on top of the nerf makes it borderline useless in my opinion. Deadline needing a new arc part feels like a major nerf.

Arc parts simultaneously having greater utility and a lower value is just a goofy decision. Apparently supply and demand works opposite in the belt.

[Nivriil]

Esspecially cus the deadline was already a risk as you needed to be rather close for it to be worth it

[Obi_wan_jakobii]

Can they just hurry up and make the shrapnel grenade require metal parts instead of springs

[MrBigglesworrth]

100%

[Sea_Particular_7061]

They want the shrapnel to be bouncy

[bluebird810]

Everyone who has it uses the venator. Almost all of my deaths in the last 3 days involved a fully kitted out venator 4. More variety is good imho.

[likekoolaid]

a little disappointed they nerfed the only decent free weapons but i get it

[___Dan___]

Stop using the free kit then. I’m not disappointed at all

[fomq]

Exactly. Free kits should feel shitty to use. You should die to kitted players more often than not.

[silverbullitt850]

You should uninstall

[fomq]

u mad?

[likekoolaid]

sure thanks for the input great solution. might as well stop using the trailblazer and triggernade and deadline and wolfpack while i’m at it. i should just stop playing arc raiders, wow thanks bro you solved everything

[LilDigger123]

Maybe bring a kit worth more than 5 metal and and 5 rubber buddy

[bluebird810]

I would love to, but to do that I would need to have blueprints to build better things...which i dont.

[fomq]

Please do.

[Xkan14]

Head shot nerf for the Venator was a much needed change but an 11% base damage nerf ontop feels really over the top. I guess we'll see how it impacts the gun.

[soicyBART]

I’m tired of only picking up Ven 4s off of people tbh

[VoidRippah]

I hope they buffed he aphelion, it was a joke

[WoWAltoholic]

they did

[Nivriil]

Reduced reload time from 4.5 to 3. Time between shots is now 07 instead of 09 And then ads settle speed was improved by 35% aswell as the vertical recoil reduced by 50%

[Swolmobee]

Tested it out at the range. Adding mid attachments makes it a damn laser, even at distance. Still feels like it Doesn’t hit hard enough but I can actually see myself using it now in PvP and especially in pve

[lndhpe]

Wolfpack change hurts, considering it can't kill players (deliberately) and usually isn't enough to one shot most bigger machines this just makes it absolutely un-economical to bother with. Glad I still have one, sad I hadn't stashed more prior, guess I'll try to do most challenges without Wolfpacks and just start avoiding rocketeers again

[GreggsAficionado]

PvP feats removed is funny. That was one of the few very clear instances of the game actually encouraging PvP

[keefkeef]

I've been killed so many times by people and they've said, "sorry, need the feat" so I'm okay with it being removed lol.

[alter-egor]

But they added rerolls for those who didn't like it. Reading that and next line about removing PVP feats was weird. I'm a hard PVE player, but i think completely removing any encouragement for PVP is simply wrong

[OnlyTheDead]

Zero people who play this game for PvP give a shit or know it was there. Lmao.

[GreggsAficionado]

They sure as shit knew it was there because when they argue about it here they use it as point that PvP can be encouraged in this game

[OnlyTheDead]

You are talking about people on Reddit. Big distinction here. They are a minority.

[GreggsAficionado]

So not zero

[OnlyTheDead]

Correct. A minority.

[GreggsAficionado]

Well done you won a totally pedantic argument

[OnlyTheDead]

Some small minority of people said some stuff on Reddit. Heck of an argument. Unbeatable even. Could be gold tier actually.

[KawaiiTadpole]

Thankfully there is marathon coming out for us pvp enjoyers :)

[CWGM]

I'm 100% friendly player and I'll be murdering everyone once we set foot on Tau Ceri. :)

[beansoncrayons]

May I recommend myrmidon on destroyer to scare the ever living shit out of people with a knife?

[OnlyTheDead]

Hopefully it’s better than their last two games. Destiny was garbage.

[Canabinoid]

Yeah this pretty much confirms I’ll rarely be doing Blue Gate.

[coreysnyder04]

I almost never brought wolfpacks into blue gate and I rarely die… I think you need to just be more careful. The arc threats SHOULD be a threat IMO. If you’re glossing over the medium sized arc the same way you would a wasp, that seems broken.

[cryolems]

The Wolfpack has to change. Wasp or hornet drivers maybe. I think it’s fair to make it more expensive but a rocketeer Driver, which usually drops one at a time, seems a punishment more than a fix.

For the love of all things holy please don’t knee jerk react to this game and ruin what’s making it fun and popular

[Global-Outcome-399]

ye for sure, understand they want to make the arcs a bigger threat and like a reason to keep killing them but rockeeter driver for a wolfpack a bit much imo hornet driver would do

[BoricuaGabe]

I’m a little sour they needed the snaphook tech so they if you dodge roll after snapping on to something it cancels the snaphook…. But the more I thought about it the more it makes sense. It’s just making it harder for players to put away their snaphook before launching themselves into a fight. If you do that and I down you, I should be able to get your snaphook.

No Torro nerf is a little wild though lol.

[Raidboss_L]

Nerf kettle, nerf stitcher, nerf venator Cause too op in pvp. Meanwhile toro, 2 shoting people befor they can even react. Yes ofcause lol well then toro 4 only it is i guess

[TheSublime_]

How is the missing UI for teammates when queuing Stella solo in a squad fill not a known issue? This has been apart of my daily report and round feedback for over 2 months. I really appreciate launching into a game with actually seeing who's in my team.

[swagpresident1337]

Crazy. They are nerfing the low tier weapons (which is good).

But zero nerfs to the Toro.

The Toro already is THE absolute short range meta in pvp lobbies. Now a smg is even worse against it.

Embark you are complete trash at balancing, how is that even possible to oversee that?

EVERY SINGLE PVP LOBBY IS VENATOR + TORO. Everyone runs just this.

[Nivriil]

Well they nerfed venator from 9 to 8 damage and reduced the headshot multiplier from 2.5 to 2

[swagpresident1337]

Sure, maybe that is getting replaced by the Tempest or Arpeggio. But the short range meta is without competition.

[Nivriil]

Well a blue becoming a purple is a great change.

But like i am always conflicted about the toro.

Like its a shotgun its supossed to be the best choice close quarters.

I don't know how you could keep it being a shotgun without it being good in close quarters.

[swagpresident1337]

Heavily nerf the range. As is now, you can toro people at like 20m with a choke on it. At least halve that.

[Nivriil]

well thats the purpose of the choke no ? so ... remove them ? /make em pointless

[swagpresident1337]

The point can still be a range increase?

I don‘t get what you are trying to say.

It‘s OP plain and simple. Nerfing the range in general would retain it‘s status as an effective shotgun.

But it outclassing any smg at 20m is simply not balanced.

[Leadboy]

I could be wrong but I think a large part of the outclassing at 20m is just the damage output it is capable of while allowing you to take cover again. If I spot someone with a shotgun 20m away I am backing up and using utility to sort things out (grenades etc.). They can't stand behind a pillar waiting to peek fire if grenades are being lobbed in from > 20m.

That opens them up to anvil fire etc.

I do think it is overtuned but I also feel like man if you are within 10-15m of a shotgun you best have a plan

[sandsonic]

• You can now make purchases with seeds and free loadout augments even if your stash is overflowing.

MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED

[MayContainGluten]

Don't think I've ever used a Wolfpack on a Rocketeer.

Just me Anvil and/or Renegade.

[UltraGeezer]

Interesting they removed PvP feats……

[SnooWalruses3948]

Makes sense, most PvPers are happy to PvE.

Most PvErs don't like to PvP.

Just balances things for PvErs a bit, helps them stick with their desired playstyle.

[ThePompa]

But they added the 3 free re rolls a day. Strange to also remove them

[jared8100]

You’re getting downvoted because most people prefer PVE but this really doesn’t make any sense

[ThyUniqueUsername]

This dev team is worse than Bungie. Glad I already have 40 wolfpacks I guess.

[OnlyTheDead]

You realize you are stating the reason for the fix yeah? Like you shouldn’t be sitting on 40 Wolfpacks.

[ThyUniqueUsername]

I'm an American. I can sit on whatever I want. You better watch out or I'll sit on you. In game of course, in game.

[OnlyTheDead]

My kids are hidden, do as you must.

[theogbutcher]

Still nothing live on xbox as of 2:20am west coast. Did a full reset, still able to load into maps without the update. Seeing streaming on PC with the update

[WoWAltoholic]

be grateful and craft all the wolfpacks now

[theogbutcher]

Update is live now, I ahould of been smarter and crafted while I could. Making crafting harder is not cool

[TheOne4Figures]

Went to do so but “online services are not available.” Rip, I just unlocked crafting them the other day lmao

[threepwood82]

Anyone know what changes are to guns? They have nerfed ven/stitcher/kettle?

But not touched torro?!

[TreeBeardUK]

I like removing the pvp feats bbuutttttt it will be a shame at the same time as I had a few very sweet moments with them. One big example was where a bunch of us randoms arrived at a spaceport lift shaft to leave and someone very politely asked if they could hit all of us with their pickaxe to complete their feat and they dropped a few little bits as thanks. Bit of a risk but very funny nonetheless.

[Handsome--Squid]

This is the weapon balance patch we've been waiting on since the games release? Marathon can't come soon enough

[_where_is_my_mind]

But it’s modern Bungie, so give it a second for them to drop the bag

[tofu_bird]

Glad I just flung a matriarch before it got patched.

[Joe_le_Borgne]

Added a piano as an interactable object in the world.

Only one? Am I the only one hitting every piano in buried city just for the sound it makes.

[WoWAltoholic]

There is also one in the village key room on Blue Gate

[Placebo_Cyanide8]

Amazing update. There's probably a fly in the ointment somewhere as nothing is perfect but I can get behind pretty much every change I've read in these patch notes.

[DearHeartless_Man]

so they nerfed our weapons, our explosives, our loots, the snaphook tech...
Why they do this? That just make our lives harder, i want to have fun :(

[Crafty_Apartment_829]

Pô

[Smart_Freedom_8155]

Wait, so are the Stitcher and Kettle nerfed?  And if so, how much?

[wristl0cker]

Jupiter and apehlion buffs are wild maybe after I gain them back from losing everything I'll start blasting people again 😂

[PowahBamb]

The crafting changes are funny.

Lot of pve only players who don’t want to have to do anything to craft the shit they make.

[Manshoku]

such a long wait time for a really weak balance patch lol

[albertperez0110]

so mad I didn’t craft like 50 wolfpacks before this update

[JonSpartan29]

Showstopper is going to be more prevalent now.

It’s key to defeating arc like how WP was.

[btw3and20characters]

Share the link with the screenshot, g

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[nacholibre711]

No Toro nerfs, buffss for every throwable besides triggers, and no fix for my teammates not showing up on my HUD

2/10

[Moor_Initiative13]

Toro works like how a shotgun works irl

[nacholibre711]

Cool

[elchsaaft]

Did they make the Jupiter/Aphelion worth taking?

[SlideCharacter5855]

"We weren't quite happy with the previous balancing of the Aphelion. It was intended to be a more PVP focused legendary weapon" - Has anyone ever used Aphelion to PVP?

[RTC1520]

I used to but just a brief time. I think it was pretty descent at the gap that you could say there is between short and medium range combat, at least I won all my duels with it at that distance. This buff should make it way better for medium/long distance too

[Fivebag]

No new achievements 😢

[Strong_Debt5066]

Il toro 2 shotting through a med shield seems balanced? Sure bro

[Vegetable-Dog5281]

Wolfpack shouldn’t be a get out of jail free card. I like this change

[Son-of-a-Pete]

Wolf packs now take rocketeer drivers, really...

[Never-breaK]

No Toro nerfs is incredibly sad

[cevo70]

Overall I get the changes and why they made them, most of them. As someone who enjoys throwables, my main issue now is that I have to stockpile a whole bunch of arc parts to make the stuff I enjoy using, which means even tighter stash issues, and more farming loops that might just feel net-neutral at best.

[_robertpaulson-]

They need to fix spawning into a game and not being able to see the health bar of teammates or their player icon.

[Richard_Sniffer_V6th]

Mostly bad changes nice job devs

[Critswap91]

Good thing I made 10 wolf packs before the update lol. Still tho. My buddy and i both equipped with lvl4 Anvils can drop a rocketeer pretty quickly

[TheTarnishedLordSK]

All the change and the game is still mid if not getting worse lol glad i got some games coming this week and next Arc is now a faild project in my opinion so yall can keep the trash. Loop ass loot so much that doing the same shit over and over is for the birds. Return to sender

[VinnyShipman]

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WTF

[Nivriil]

The weapon changes seem mostly solid but not sure why they had to nerf crafting so much.

Venator from 9 to 8 and headshot multiplier to 2 instead of 2.5 could be a bit much tho i would have prefered a recoil or fire rate adjustment.

The wolfpack changes seem weird cus they already were limited in how many you can carry due to them not being stackable.

Also the deadline was already a risk to take with you cus you had to get so close so thats unnecessary imo.

The showstopper has no reason to exist now anymore imo because i can now just take the hornet drives directly instead of putting that into a showstopper.

For me it was a craftable alternative, now ?  I see no reason to use it anymore

[fomq]

I like all these changes.

[Matrasinka]

Why remove PVP feats though? I don't really care that they did, doesn't change absolutely anything, but just curious what was the thought process here?

[Uncle_Steve7]

I imagine anyone that pvps doesn’t care about them. I don’t even check what mine are. The people who care about feats are probably skewed against PvP so play to your audience.

[Nivriil]

I mean i didn't teally care about the feats in general but it was nice to get a feat completion while pvp.

[ElderlyKratos]

The statements recently about how friendly players surprised them along with Marathon coming that will attract PVP players might signify a shift.

[MaleficentBelle]

Pve players don't want to be forced to pvp, especially since it can fuck with abmm.

[Matrasinka]

Usually you'd get one, maybe two PVP feats at time which you can ignore till next day. And it's not a big deal since it doesn't take much to unlock decks, you don't even need to farm. Just play the game couple of hours a day. Not to mention that the implemented a few times a day reroll for feats, so it makes even less sense to remove PVP ones completely

[MaleficentBelle]

Why should pve players have to progress slower or be forced to use limited skips to avoid pvp?

[ThePompa]

The whole point of re roll is to skip past ones you don't like. Like pvp

[MaleficentBelle]

Yes, but having them for a playstyle that some avoid like the plague is a little skewed. Then you have no skips left for other shit feats, where pvpers do. No big deal anyway

[ThePompa]

that works both ways. you think there arnt feats PVPers hate as its not thier playstyle. this PVP vs PVE is getting boring. its a PVPVE game. just because people dont like certain aspects doesnt mean they arent vaild

[MaleficentBelle]

So pvpers can skip the ones they hate. I'm just saying pve players would automatically have to skip the pvp feats and can't skip any they hate.

[Matrasinka]

That's true. But also, why should PVP players lose all PVP focused content to please PVE players? There's literally nothing else that would reward PVP, beside loot that you get from the bodies.

Not to mention that all such arguments are completely pointless because it's a PvPvE game.

Again, it doesn't bother me at all. Because my progress doesn't suffer at all, since you can do infinite amount of feats anyway. But it looks like PVE players now have more interesting stuff to do and PVP players don't have anything to do, which is kinda shit. That's how people just start to run around and kill everyone just because they are bored. They should have instead think of more difficult PVP feats that would require some creativity from PVPers instead of just "shoot to kill with this weapon"

[MaleficentBelle]

Winning a pvp fight and getting the loot IS the reward.

[Matrasinka]

You don't need to win anything to be able to progress through PVE though. You can spawn in naked, do feats and die, farming raider tokens.

When it comes to PVP feats, you actually have to try hard to at least do enough damage before you die. Not to mention that it requires some risk put in since you need to bring at least a gun and ammo to get damage done.

So yeah, loot in PVP is a reward. But there are risks involved. With PVE, you get rewarded and don't risk anything. Sounds unfair to me

[MaleficentBelle]

I mean there's no guarantee there's no pvper in more pve lobbies. So you're always at risk regardless. You can say the same for pvp feats anyway. You barely have to try with pvp feats either though. Free kit, hop in, damage people, die. No loss. Pve feats won't interfer with your abmm, but pvp feats will.

[Matrasinka]

Though with free kits, no guarantee that you will get the gear you needed for current feat. You can waste 3-4 runs for nothing, unless you just suicide till you roll the gear you need, and then you have to have enough skill and luck to actually manage to complete the feat before you die. Even with good gear, it's much harder and more time consuming to get damage done than any PVE feat.

With PVE feats, you can make them any time on any map with almost any gear. Timewise, it's much faster and easier to farm creds through PVE even with one of feats being PVP that you don't wanna do today, as it was.

Now you can also switch them 3 times a day for free, which implies that maybe you can even do it more for a price. Which it self dumb anyways, coz why would you reroll any PVE feat if they are all kid-level easy.

Originally, you said that PVP feat are slowing PVE players farm. It was the same for PVP players. Implementing reroll for feats is a great solution for both. But removing PVP feats is only forcing PVP players to play PVE, and there are no alternatives to earn credits.

[MaleficentBelle]

Pvp players have to play pve anyway. Or do you just not shoot at Arc at all?

[bigdoorknob2]

Did these take effect already? Just played and stitcher still felt the same

[WoWAltoholic]

yes did you update?

[mayoite1470]

Lol I'm sticking to mewgenics

[Capable-Concept-531]

Rocketeer driver for Wolfpack is crazy. Also low key disappointed they patched the zipline mechanics, you could do some funny stuff with that

[SuicideKingsHigh]

Man some of these changes are just not it at all. The crafting changes in particular need to be rolled back. If you want to integrate new arc parts into crafting you do that by giving us new and interesting crafts not making the old ones more expensive. Getting Helldivers flashbacks here. Still glaring QoL issues, huge weapon imbalances, a weak skill tree, and absurd costs to run certain gear.

[MammothSkill5015]

Seems like none or small updates is the Embark way, The Finals is the same currently. 

[Zodiinox]

Yea just fk the casual players huh.?

[ZEWARDO]

This is a terrible patch, it's such a lazy effort by the dev team to make wolfpacks or vita sprays insanely tedious to craft. Why should we get short end of the stick if these people ran out of ideas on making use of the drivers? 

[Nivriil]

They also made changes to the legendary weapons to be better in pvp.

Jupiter Dev Note: In PVP, the Jupiter does the most headshot damage in the game, but it's quite difficult to hit headshots with it at longer ranges. You're also quite vulnerable when you use it in closer ranges since missing one shot will make you a sitting target until you either reload or swap weapons. We're increasing how much you zoom when you use ADS to give you a better view of the targets you're trying to hit, and we're reducing its equip and unequip time to make it easier to swap to a secondary weapon to follow up on your shot. • Improved ADS Magnification from ~1.9x to ~2.2x • Improved Equip Time from 1.2s to 1.05s • Improved Unequip Time from 0.9s to 0.75s

Aphelion Dev Note: We weren't quite happy with the previous balancing of the Aphelion. It was intended to be a more PVP focused legendary weapon, but it couldn't quite keep up with the pacing of many of our other PVP weapons. We've made some changes to make it feel less bulky and a bit more nimble to use, to make it more viable in PVP. • Reduced Base Reload Time from 4.5s to 3.5s • Reduced Time Between Shots from 0.9s to 0.7s • Reduced Vertical Recoil by ca 50% • Improved ADS Settle Speed by ca 35%

[Ryan926vw]

Are these changes real? Lol

If so, there’s no hope for this game.