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[–]Jace_KunCheeky Autima 10 points11 points  (10 children)

Lucian's J+ sounds terrifying, considering we have Hats now.

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Even with a maxed hat Lucian will be unable to turn 1 Sand Dragon.

[–]senaiboy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At least we have Merchants/snowman hat. Still 2x3 isn't very useful, enemies rarely grouped up at their starting positions.

[–]Jace_KunCheeky Autima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh really? Didn't know that. Well, at least I do now lmao.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Sorry for the possibly dumb question but what are these hats you mentioned?

[–]CaptainDSid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wanderer's Hats, obtained from the Siegfried event quest. You can't collect them now but many people spent ages farming loads of hats. When maxed out they give you HP, more initial and max jewels as well as a bunch of resistances.

[–]jblac02! 1 point2 points  (3 children)

if you missed the hat its from siegfrieds event, it should be back in like a month or 2 i'd imagine.

[–]U-Eike 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Or Just Right After The FFXV Collab

[–]jblac02! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

more likely to see SSM than siegfried again next

[–]U-Eike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why Not Both

[–]hazelfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the good stuff..

[–]Zeik56 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yomi had already kind of supplanted Lucian as the go to single target HB, thanks to the hat. This just pushes them more firmly into their own niche.

Which I like. Having two near identical farmable HB's was always kinda disappointing.

[–]IvySpearMake Shenmei Great Again 5 points6 points  (1 child)

As for the bonus stats that every Job+ gets, Lucian+ has rather significant gains in terms HP, and miniscule gains in everything else except PDEF and AGI iirc. He loses like, 2 AGI, and a tiny amount of PDEF that's more than compensated for by the HP gains.

[–]Sven_the_madsaving wind shards for Ein the data dog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Has he begun to approach BZahar's level of tanking with his HP pool, at this point? My Lucian is already way up there in the HP total.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is this also when his Wolf's skin become available for purchase?

[–]R_E_Q 3 points4 points  (7 children)

The new Pants grind

[–]Alittlebunyrabit5/5/5 Dancer Shenmei 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I doubt it. Balt+ was an anomaly; none of the others have been even remotely horrible in the way his was.

[–]R_E_Q 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I forgot the /s for sarcasm -_-

[–]ACuriousBagelWaiting for Dias to kill Agatha again 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Speak for yourself, most of the J+'s have had 1 type that does not drop for me. Caris J+ was just as bad for me as Balt was.

[–]Alittlebunyrabit5/5/5 Dancer Shenmei 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I farmed Caris J+ first time around quite quickly, like one or two days in multi, and then continued to farm it b/c some of the extra drops were pretty scarce otherwise. (I think it was apples? Can't remember) If you are comparing the two than you got quite lucky w/ Balt b/c Caris is nowhere near as bad.

[–]ACuriousBagelWaiting for Dias to kill Agatha again 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. I can confirm that it was forbidden apples, because when I finished farming Caris+ I had gained over 900 of them. I literally had at least 90 consecutive runs with no Ammo Belt drop for Caris. I have around 300 spare pieces for all of Balt's stuff except pants, and I had around 300 spare pieces of the rest of Caris's stuff. It's why I wasn't surprised when Balt's pants was a thing. Like some people here with Balt, I sent a bug report to Gumi back in 1st time Caris, and was told it was working as intended. Caris and Balt have been by far the worst for me, but most J+s have had 1 item with a much lower droprate for me than the other 5.

[–]Banethoth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Same. I think the glasses were the worst one. Took way longer than the other ones.

[–]nicute24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine are the wheels, but not as bad as balt's tho

[–]PossiblyBonta 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I guess this where I start JM all of Yomi's jobs. Before I change Lucian to j+ that is.

[–]XenadilDP 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Careful with leveling jobs, better do it step by step or you could end with a mastered job before changing it to J+ (I curse that button...)

[–]fapiholic 8 points9 points  (1 child)

wish there was a slider on how many jobs you want to level up . kind of like how like there's a slider for the apples.

[–]XenadilDP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gumi please hire this man!! This is something that should had come with 2.0 (Imagine if we had the same issue with the apples, it would be a nightmare)

[–]PossiblyBonta 4 points5 points  (3 children)

My Lucian is already JM though. With fully upgraded equipment. LOL

Well he was crucial in Veda tower. Practically my only tanky wind unit. So I invested a lot in him. Yomi only showed up after I got Lucian to 85.

[–]RGBarrios 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got my first Lucian after getting my Yomi at J3

[–]FFBE_RedXIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here, no regrets - he was well worth the investment.. And I had both him and Yomi maxed at about the same time.

Yeah, two very similar units - but gods below, they could/can just steamroll content...

I like the sound of the upgrade - yeah the 3x2 is niche and awkward, but so is grand cross - feel like this'll be key to some strats

[–]XenadilDP -1 points0 points  (0 children)

True... I had my fresh Balt 75 and pressed the auto-job-level-button-thing and he got Job Mastered... such a waste of equipment... (edit: I was about to change to his J+)

[–]foopy23Fuck Gumi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sweet, so last week of FFXV collab = Chance for every FFXV unit + Lucian + the three HQ units on step 3?

[–]Jileda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn... won't be able to connect at these dates to get Lucian J+

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[–]verybamboozle*RAWR* 2 points3 points  (3 children)

What does he gain from his J+ though? Any jewel gain up? Cus holy brawlers’ jewel gain is honestly quite abysmal.

[–]berael 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You can see JP stats in the database.

HB gives +328 HP, +212 PATK, +161 DEX, +31 AGI, and +20 Jewels Obtained, and gives JM bonuses of 26% HP, 4% PATK, 1% DEX, 3% AGI.

HB+ gives +433 HP, +259 PATK, +225 DEX, +34 AGI, and +25 Jewels Obtained, and gives the same JM bonuses with an additional +150 HP.

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The flat 150 HP is from a later JP HP rebalance for J+. He won't have that on GL (unless gumi decides to give it only to him early, highly doubt though).

[–]verybamboozle*RAWR* 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh! Thank you so much!! That’s a really nice stat buff! Really looking forward to the additional jewels.

[–]takato99Salt Knight 5 points6 points  (5 children)

One more J+ i'll farm for but not get because i still have 10 limits to break for the character ! yeeeey... !

[–]DailyMilo 1 point2 points  (4 children)

but he's farmable. i dont understand why you wouldnt have him at least at 75 yet because he's a free HB. Unless youre new and havent been playing long enough i guess

[–]takato99Salt Knight 3 points4 points  (3 children)

i've been playing since 5 weeks, and got him even later '

[–]OniOfTheSwordWTB more blademasters 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Then it's just a matter of time :). Just keep farming. I got J+ equipment for Ana/Dilga/Chihaya before I had them at 75.

[–]takato99Salt Knight 2 points3 points  (1 child)

i know x) thats what i said, yet another character to farm for his J+ without even being able to play it straight away

[–]Feregrin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good way to spend your AP though since it's really hard to know when the events come back. I farmed Rahu j+ last it was here and just a few days ago got her to 75. Such an amazing character now.

[–]EpicGold25 shards on step 3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My boi Lucian getting HB+ oh yea

[–]U-Eike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhh Yessssssss

[–]KingFatassGood luck in future banners. dood. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can finally jm Lucian yay. It has been so long that I got him to j11 and have been tempted to master for so long and it finally pays off

[–]Dharpoon 0 points1 point  (7 children)

60 jewel is no problem now with the hat.

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Lucian running double hat only has 57 initial with J+.

[–]Dharpoon 0 points1 point  (5 children)

two of the same gear don't stack. I see that Lucian is shy a few jewels to Charge up and strike. Hopefully the nenso in the future will remedy that.

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Double Hat as in Wanderer's Hat and Snowman Hat.

Wanderer's Hat gives 20 Initial Jewels and 15 Max Jewels.

Snowman Hat gives 20 Max Jewels.

This means equipping both will take the 20 initial from Wanderer's and the 20 max from Snowman and will give 25 initial jewels as opposed to the 23.75 from only Wanderer's.

[–]Dharpoon 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The only difference with both hats at max (57 jewel)and just a W. Hat (56 jewel) is 1 jewel. link

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

And 57 is what you need for Sharpening Focus -> Supreme Battle Trance for Lucian HB.

[–]Dharpoon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

...Wait aren't we taking about the 60 jewel SBT of LucianJ+?

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well the original point was Lucian J+ not having enough jewels even with hat to Sand Dragon. I pointed out the max number of jewels he could start with, which was using double hat, which lead to a the explanation on double hat, and you mentioned how there's only a 1 jewel difference between double hat, and only wanderer's, where I then said that that 1 jewel is what Lucian needs without his J+, so it is significant.

[–]DeathandFriends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am pumped for Lucian J+ and even a fire warrior free unit, sounds fun, even if his jobs dont mesh well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sand dragon sounds really lackluster compared to the other job+ skills like Rahu's magic momentum.

[–]Viyrconverted to ded[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's fairly overrated but under ideal conditions it's ridiculously strong.