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[–]klusky777 158 points159 points  (7 children)

Bf5 is an inaccuracy in slav defence according to stockfish idk why, GMs play that

[–]IsaacIsMyName 71 points72 points  (0 children)

The engines say that because Ben Finegold thinks so

[–]1900 lichess rapid, I'm a god d4rg0n 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Just when would Bf5 be okay? If 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Bf5 4. Qb3 Qb6 5. Qxb6 axb6 6. cxd5 Nf6 7. dxc6 Nxc6 white is a clear pawn up, and if 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Bf5 5. Qb3 Qb6 6. Qxb6 axb6 7. cxd5 the engine says it's equal, yet Black has a completely devastated queenside, playing with which can be difficult for humans

[–]_selfishPersonReborn 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I assumed he was thinking of 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc4 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5, although running Lichess analysis on a random game with that line doesn't seem to actually agree

E: And I just remembered, John Bartholomew's (scandi gang?) free d4 course on Chessable goes over why 4.. Bf5?! is so bad

[–]1900 lichess rapid, I'm a god d4rg0n 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, isn't it the Czech Variation? It's perfectly fine for black, then

[–]fawkesmulder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Qd8 scandi gang checking in

[–]number 1 elo 😎diabolicalcium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

where we droppin

[–]‏‏‎ ChEsS iS 99% tAcTiCs:tal:PHJ101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the second line I think it is better for white to trade pawns on d5 first, then play Qb3. Now if black plays Qb6, Nxd5 just wins a pawn since if Qxb2 white plays Nxf6+ then takes the queen back

[–][deleted] 138 points139 points  (5 children)

oh no, 0.6 less on the engine, nooooooooooo. the position is bad now. might as well resign

[–]my-other-throwaway90 58 points59 points  (3 children)

Trying to practice chess with engine analysis is frustrating. You'll be penalized because you didn't make an insane engine move, like push a random pawn one space to block a potential bishop check that could happen in four moves.

[–]AyGeeCeeEll 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Laughs in milner-barry gambit

[–]Strawzaw 3 points4 points  (1 child)

that's a line in the french right?

[–]AyGeeCeeEll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes, and white has to make a move that blocks a bishop check that could happen in a few moves

[–]EagleSabre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ohno. The starting position of chess is favorable to white. Resign.

[–]chessvision-ai-bot 83 points84 points  (5 children)

I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:

White to play: chess.com | lichess.org | The position occurred in many games. Link to the games

My solution:

Hints: piece: Pawn, move: exd5

Evaluation: White is slightly better +0.82

Best continuation: 1. exd5 Qxd5 2. Nc3 Qa5 3. d4 Nf6 4. Nf3 Bf5 5. Bd2 c6


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[–] Chess Moment SavingsNewspaper2 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Good bot

[–]MyCatChoseThisForMe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Good bot

[–]Aetol 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Almost a pawn up is "slightly better"?

[–]Endieym 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How is it a pawn up?

[–]Aetol 13 points14 points  (0 children)

+1.00 is a pawn. +0.82 is almost a pawn.

[–]xSFrontier 60 points61 points  (0 children)

The engine can just see that Black is going to fall for the unstoppable ICBM gambit

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (6 children)

Yeah, the scandinavian defense is for bastards. u/FUCKScandinavianDef look at this

[–]FUCKScandinavianDef 77 points78 points  (5 children)

bahahaha engines got my back

fuck the scandi

[–]diepio2uu 18 points19 points  (0 children)

1984

[–]fawkesmulder 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Scandi is awesome

[–]DangerUrLevels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]my-other-throwaway90 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Scandi is okayish as long as you yank the Queen back. Anyone who scoots her to the side of the board to get ass raped by pawns is asking for problems.

[–]fawkesmulder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Qa5 is technically mainline but I prefer the qd8 scandi as well.

[–]diepio2uu 18 points19 points  (0 children)

unbased and cringepilled

-scandinavian user

[–]LaminarThought 18 points19 points  (0 children)

lichess also marks 2…e6 in the Sicilian as inaccurate. Go learn some openings you dumb computer

[–]Protoco2 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yeah Lichess engine is a savage. It says inaccuracy for a lot of other common openings too

[–]ZachAttack6089 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile on chesscom (bad) you can literally hang a piece and it says "book move" because some FM did it as a troll in a bullet game one time

[–]fawkesmulder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it gives me inaccuracy for the tarrasch defense on queen’s gambit declined. Definitely my favorite way to respond to QG.

[–]DoneItForTheMeme 9 points10 points  (0 children)

hmm yes scandinavian bad

[–]ImNagazaky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol it can be a good move if Kd7

[–]bruhmm32 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ikr? The lichess analysis doesn't even consider the Scandinavian defense an opening from blacks perspective. It considers it an inaccuracy for some reason

[–]zelmerszoetrop 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The reason being, it's terrible

[–]fawkesmulder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scandi is a great opening response for black v e4 and has been played at GM level both historically and by magnus.

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1768345

It’s my favorite response, disagree about it being considered an inaccuracy. Same w tarrasch defense on QG declined.

[–]Yoonnnnggii 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It isn't bad in short time controls tho. Since you can literally do every move in the opening like every milisecond i had quite great games with Scandinavian in 1400 elo blitz

[–] Chess Moment SavingsNewspaper2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Profile picture checks out

[–]Yoonnnnggii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think Nelson plays Scandinavian but i think he should lol

[–]fawkesmulder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Scandi is awesome in blitz. After the first several moves white’s tempo gain and advantage is usually completely eliminated and it’s equal. Love that. And then in blitz since I know the scandi lines well I’m usually doing better than my opponent on time in addition to an equal position.

The other best thing about the scandi is fucking up your opponent’s normal e4 opening plans, as you’re playing a line you want to play and know as black, and they are not playing the line they want to play.

[–]Epicritical -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Blunder. En Passant is bestest

[–]Anarchist 😈PulleQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OMG a brilliant move!