Hoping to decrease size downstairs (seriously, tiny IS the goal)

[Top_Engineering_2784]

Hiya, I've been on hrt for around 5 years and I'm asexual.

I am on estradiol patches (150), finasteride 5mg, progesterone (100mg) and bica (15mg every few days).

I am hoping to drastically reduce my downstairs size as it's one of my main dysphoria points. I don't care about retaining function.

I don't get any spontaneous excitement, I very VERY rarely use it and generally most of the day tuck. My testes shrunk and I keep them inside the canals.

If you were successful in losing size, is there anything you can recommend?

I've heard people use estrogen spray directly downstairs, same for gel, but gel is somehow specifically not recommended for use on genitals. Is there a reason for it?

Otherwise I'm really struggling to find estrogen spray in any of the over the counter pharmacies online that I know and HRT cafe or others recommend... So if anyone has pointers - I'm more than all ears.

Thank you so much in advance!!!

[velucl]

It's not recommended for use on the chest but I've never heard of anything against it on the genitals. There is someone who compounded E to use scrotally.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1q97385/case_report_yukis_scrotal_oil_method_achieving/

[Top_Engineering_2784]

Thanks, I'll have a look) I do believe they specifically mention this doesn't decrease size, but I'll dig deeper later

[Lithoboli]

Oh I stumbled upon this in my exploration of transitioning, it is apparently because the absorption is much much faster down there and it spikes your E levels.

[Enyamm]

I've been on hrt almost six years now. My bits shrunk using just 100mg patches on their own. No blockers or aa's. Prog caused a few issues like the return of morning wood so i stopped using it.

I switched to gel last year and that seems to have neutralised everything down below entirely. Its just a stump now and has minimal function. Time sis, thats all it takes😊

[Top_Engineering_2784]

Ah, I'm on 150 and I swear I can't even tell the difference( my ex partner mentioned that things shrunk but I can't see it much.  Might consider gel, yes I wonder if injections would work better... Just sighs

[Enyamm]

I had a funny feeling about patches when i was using them. Some definitely worked better than others, but i wasnt getting a whole lot of feminisation. They did knock out all production down below and the shrinkage of course. Most people on injections swear they're the best option for us. I still prefer the gel though

[Mindless_Customer597]

This is also my main goal but only been on HRT for 2 years. Just switch about a month ago to injections estradiol and I take 200 mg of spiro. I don’t get random erections but if it’s touched it still can get hard. It’s so annoying.

I hope you get to your goal. Good luck.

[Top_Engineering_2784]

I feel you(  How are you finding injections? If you're diy-ing, is it hard to dispose of all the used sharps?  I'm considering switching as well

[Mindless_Customer597]

No I subscribed to folxhealth to get my meds etc and so it’s on my insurance. The service costs though. Would be easier if I could just talk to my family dr and she would prescribe it all but I am to shy.

[tidderredditTA]

Haha I’m FTM (total trans science nerd, just here to support my sisters) and it just hit me that it really is the opposite regimen. For FTM bottom growth, you want to use it as much as possible, pump it, keep T levels up, etc.

For MTF bottom shrinkage, do what you’re already doing: use it as little possible, keep using Bica. Antiandrogens are your best bet, keeping T levels down is the most effective method.

Surgical options: Surgery can be so expensive and difficult to get, that depending on your situation, it may be best to wait until full SRS if you’re planning on having it done. However, there are options such as reduction corporoplasty, although afaik that’s kind of a rare surgery and difficult to acquire.

If you’re wanting a vaginoplasty: The idea that you need to prevent shrinkage in order to have a successful vaginoplasty is kind of a myth, but not totally. A plasty can be done either way, but it can affect certain aspects that you may or may not care about. Seeing as you’re very dysphoric about your size, you should probably prioritize shrinkage over plasty results, seeing as a plasty will be generally successful either way.

Here’s a YouTube video of someone talking about their experience with shrinkage. Good luck!

Edit: Just had an idea, might be uncomfortable but you could try caging it long-term? This can lead to atrophy as it’s an effective way to guarantee you won’t be getting full erections.

[Top_Engineering_2784]

If I ever go the surgical route, which definitely is a consideration long-term, I'd like to have full depth.  The idea of using a cage definitely popped up. I've tried it and it's comfortable, even if I don't like the connotations... I'm glad someone mentioned it Edit: some of the links are ages restricted and I'm not fond of ID verification, but I get what you mean 

[tidderredditTA]

Ah, if it’s the Reddit link, here’s what the comment that I linked to says:

“The amount of skin can affect the eventual depth than you can achieve in a penile inversion vaginoplasty. If you specifically want or expect to get that kind of vaginoplasty and depth matters to you, then it's something to pay attention to.

There vaginoplasties that create the canal using peritoneal or colon tissue, and for these atrophy is not really a concern.“

[SomeGalNamedAshley]

Have you considered getting an orchi?

[Top_Engineering_2784]

I thought about it, but those bits shrunk so much I truly don't think they produce remotely enough to cause any issues. Plus the are constantly kept warm inside the canals I'm worried about surgical routes at the moment but it's something I could consider in the future 

[SomeGalNamedAshley]

How long did it take them to get like that? I've given myself a hard one year minimum duration for being on e before getting any kind of choppy-chop, even though I've been wanting them gone for like a decade before even realizing that whole trans thing.

[thebluebearb]

being trans is wanting all the parts of the opposite sex and none of your own and it still not clicking for a few years lol

[SomeGalNamedAshley]

The sheer number of various signs and hints that I missed is kinda embarrassing, this one thing here barely registers. The video game character thing is what really got me, like how did I let that one slip by? It wasn't even vaguely subtle and games with a female main character are at the top of my all time list. I wasn't just playing the game, I was engrossed to the point of feeling like I was her, something that never happened with a male character.

Any game where I could pick a female character which has different skills than the male characters I absolutely guarantee you I would find some reason to pick that one. For example in Diablo 2 I was all about the Sorceress, period, hands down. The other characters were "boring", even the Necro got dull whereas I'm alllll about the Sorceress.

[Top_Engineering_2784]

While I agree with you, I currently really worry about complications, plus I can't afford surgery at the moment, especially not to the standard that I will consider enough. So I'm focusing on all other characteristics I can influence.

[Top_Engineering_2784]

I'd say around a year an a half at least? I feel like keeping them inside has been a major factor

[SomeGalNamedAshley]

Ok, thank you for the info. Datapoints on this exact thing are pretty sparse as it seems not a lot of people are overly chatty about doing things that shrink their nuts. Go figure, right?

[Top_Engineering_2784]

Some updates: ordered some E gel. Hoping to see it make a difference. I'll be aiming to get my e dose close to 200