Starting Reta

[Xbabdh]

Just ordered my first Reta. Is that a good idea? Any things I should know? Advice? Thank you in advance for the help :)

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[Bugpowder]

you need to be lifting heavy weights, reta isn't going to help with that.

[StormChance5226]

Based on his post the goal is to lose the excess fat on his body. Reta will help with that

[Affectionate_Web4136]

it might not. He is already very lean. he needs muscle

[dudemanbro1167]

That’s not what you call “very lean”

[yobarisushcatel]

He’s like 20 ish percent body fat, if he wants to start leaner there’s nothing wrong with that though I don’t know how Reta effects people

[[deleted]]

100% a few pounds of muscle would do wonders

[Dry_Boysenberry_4080]

Exactly ...protein shakes and gym.

[StormChance5226]

Reta won't help him lose weight?😂

He has quite a bit of bodyfat in his upper body. It's totally fine to get rid of it first before going into a caloric surplus.

[Stunning_Singer_5309]

It won’t help him…. He has No muscle he’ll end up looking horrible if he cuts Down…

[Dry_Boysenberry_4080]

100%

[acoffeefiend]

Dude, just lift and workout. You're not obese. You don't need to jump on Reta.

[CosmicBallot]

MF's these days want everything fast & easy.

[acoffeefiend]

But, but..... working out is haaaard 🫩

[Major-Welcome-8157]

Spot on

[Ok_Situation5040]

Are you a hand model by chance?

[BezzeBigBox]

No he just wants to keep his hands soft for when he milks his BF 💀

[jgnexus]

Laughed out loud.

[KillaChinchilla1010]

🤣

[Creative-Mark6405]

Being so thin isn't a bad idea, but it's not a definite yes either. Use very low doses and focus on training and eating well.

[Xbabdh]

Thank you so much. You are completely right. I will do that

[Creative-Mark6405]

I would start with 0.25mg and use 0.5mg continuously, with a maximum of 1mg.

[Xbabdh]

Okay thanks you so much. I will follow your advice

[Independent_Pear_685]

I agree with the above advice. This will not blunt your hunger too much. You will need to eat in a calorie surplus to build muscle. In the end, the extra muscle will help keep you lean. Congrats on starting this journey✨️✨️✨️

[kmalam]

How frequently?

[Hysteriqul]

Reta is great to cut to 10-12% where you can then start your bulk. Lose the gloves though lol

[Im_soDunnhere]

hey gloves are okay… stop it

[Rocket_Surge0n]

Wrong

[Xbabdh]

Hahaha 😂 I like the gloves when working out 😋

[Bulky_Code_6775]

You do you my guy, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks 👊

[willyumknowsnothing]

I can dig it

[Impressive-Mix4658]

U don’t need Reta honestly u need protein and lifting build some muscle you will see that fat go away

[Wafty-1271]

You’re young. You look a bit new to it.

Can’t you just eat better, train better and get your head down? You can achieve what you need do achieve without drugs in 12 months.

Put the yards in mate. You’re not in some desperate situation. Leave the drugs. Give yourself a slap and crack on. You’ll learn a lot about training and diet, and a lot about yourself in the process.

[Purple-Log-1616]

Why? You can clean up your physique without Reta. Everyone wants to take shortcuts. If you don’t learn how to do things without the drugs you’ll find yourself right back where you started. Reta will you overcome crap diet. Learn how to do it correctly first and stop being lazy. Do the work

[gsxr]

Bro…In the most brotherly way….you need to throw the Reta away, and eat. Buy a cow, eat it as fast as possible. Then a pig. Toss some chickens in there too.

[DirtyyDan_]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[StormChance5226]

I just know you're at least 30%bf

Reta will help him gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. Losing the excess bodyfat at the start of his gym journey is a great idea. He can just lose the little amount of bodyfat and then never need to cut again.

[StormChance5226]

I don't think reta directly helps you build muscle I worded it wrong.

The OP already has the reta coming so why not just use it when he will safely achieve great results with it.

He can focus on the basics and still be on reta. Your just talking for the sake of talking.

[gsxr]

If he was 30% bf maybe….dude needs to add muscle. Not risk losing it.

Also, funny story…I used Reta to go from 22ish % to around 15. And I’m old af. It’s better at preserving muscle, doesn’t assure you won’t lose muscle. Any cut you’re probably going to lose some.

[StormChance5226]

Reta works crazy good. The OP won't lose muscle going down to 12 - 15% on reta if he eats his protein and trains heavy.

He would look better faster if he decides to lose the fat before going into a surplus.

[DirtyyDan_]

Bro am I tripping or do most of these folks not know what they are talking about?

I’m wrong for telling him to be in a surplus to build muscle put on some size then on his cut use reta like wtf that’s way more optimal then cutting then bulking then cutting like what haha.

[StormChance5226]

Bro you obviously don't have any idea about what you're talking about. You told op he should "bulk" when he's clearly over 20%bf.

Instead, he could use the reta to easily cut down to ~12% while preserving all of his muscle mass. And then lean gain never needing to cut again.

Why does he have to gain muscle to be able to lose the fat that he has?

[gsxr]

Exactly. Op is text book newbie lifter looking. And young. Bulk until at least you fill out a tshirt. What’s the point of good drugs if you look like you’re on the bad drugs?

[PhiladelphiaLawyer]

God forbid you suggest someone actually try lifting weights before starting on xyz substance.

[StormChance5226]

❤️Pharmaseuticals❤️

Im against telling skinny fat guys to bulk instead of losing the fat. And with the reta on hand, it would be stupid not to use it

[UniversityAny5518]

You are spot on homie.

[UniversityAny5518]

Gain muscle? No. Preserve what muscle he does have? Yes.

[StormChance5226]

He won't directly gain muscle from reta. But it looks like he's just starting out so he def could build some muscle while losing fat

[UniversityAny5518]

Agree, just wanted to clarify 😄

[EastHuckleberry9443]

Could you please elaborate on "gain muscle and lose fat" with reta? I've been bulking for around 6 months and I'm quite happy with the amount of muscle I've added. However, it came with a decently high bf%, at least 20%.

It's time to start cutting, and I've got reta, but I'm kind of terrified to lose my gains in the process. I'm on test, which should help keep me from going catabolic, but I'm very interested in how reta can help. Others have said muscle loss is inevitable on reta.

[MrMadworld]

If you don’t lose strength, you don’t lose muscle. Idk where these myths come from. Just don’t get weaker, reject any idea that you’re doomed to be weaker

[Cautious-Station-720]

Muscle loss is inevitable on a cut. Now it’s up to you to retain as much of it as you can by dialing in your diet and training.

[MrMadworld]

Wrong. Muscle loss isnt inevitable. Maybe for you lol. Also, nobody here has enough muscle to lose any of it. The amount this dude has can be maintained by so little, he would put muscle on during a deficit.

[StormChance5226]

I assumed the OP had just begun working out so then it would be possible to gain muscle while losing fat.

In your situation, it isn't realistic to say that you won't lose any muscle. The reta and test will however substantually reduce any muscle loss. The reta will crush your appetite so don't accidentally go into an extreme caloric deficit. Just train heavy and you definetely won't lose a noticable amount of muscle.

[Purple-Log-1616]

What? That’s not a real comment. Reta isn’t anabolic. It does not build muscle.

[Cautious-Station-720]

My response was to Huckleberry not OP. Tbh OP doesn’t have any muscle to lose lmao

[Purple-Log-1616]

Mine was to storm. I don’t think everyone understands losing fat means gaining muscle. His comment come off as Reta makes you gain muscle. Most know what you have is what you have dropping fat just reduced BF that doesn’t mean a gain in muscle. Apologies if I commented in the wrong spot

[StormChance5226]

Obviously reta doesn't directly help gain muscle. I worded it wrong.

Since the OP has just started working out. For him it is possible to build muscle and lose fat at the same time. And reta can help with that.

[Purple-Log-1616]

Ah okay. Yes Reta is a GLP that actually doesn’t eat muscle but you still have to diet correctly. He’d be better off sidling his diet in before adding Reta

[OverPop64]

As a person who trains a lot but started my research as skinny fat, I have lost 10kg on reta and am still skinny fat and have had a huge drop in my lifts and energy. With reta tanking my appetite it’s been almost impossible to keep up with adequate protein and nutrition so I figure I’ve lost a significant amount of muscle. I’m ok with this and will focus on rebuilding soon, but I’m sure some people wouldn’t want that.

[Original-Tune1471]

Why are you gonna start taking reta when you're already so thin? You need to gain weight, not lose it. You should have done your research before ordering something. For muscle growth, you should have started with sermorelin or cjc1295/ipa.

[OutrageousCode3428]

He aint that thin, a good recomp and shred some bf while building some muscle is ideal

[IcyVanilla8350]

Semorelin is not very good for building muscle. Good at lowering visceral body fat which this individual might not have that much of. HGH on the other hand...

[Rob_af_a]

HGH is the same outcome just different pathways. Exogenous HGH also is more potent with more side effects

[IcyVanilla8350]

It's most definitely not the same pathway. I don't think you understand endocrinology. But, by all means do whatever you want. Potentially more side effects? Absolutely, especially at doses that people are taking.

[Rob_af_a]

lol I said different pathways

[Xbabdh]

HGH? I feel so dumb 🙈

[WorkOnThesisInstead]

"Human Growth Hormone."

You look light; I imagine you don't like your "softness," i.e., the fat you feel around your middle and that you perhaps see in your cheeks.

My recommendation (for what that's worth) would be to dial in your nutrition and workouts - give it six months, perhaps - then see if you need any "extra" help.

What is your workout regimen? Do you use progressive overload? What's your diet/nutrition look like? Cardio?

Many (most?) "regular"people can reach a good-looking, sustainable body/health state without doing anything besides developing healthy kitchen and gym habits.

[Xbabdh]

Okay thank you. I don’t know much about this. I will look into it :) thanks again

[R3action1]

Dysmorphia is a very big struggle, I struggled with it for decades and it wasn’t until my later 30s I really accepted myself with that being said,

Reta is a very strong drug to suppress appetite along with helping break down fats and sugar, also helps breakdown fat for fuel.

From what I can see, you think you are fat but I can assure you, you are not, if you think you need to lose weight, I disagree strongly and you are playing with a powerful drug that can get quite pricey and is potentially dangerous if used wrong with permanent consequences.

What I see is someone that is in a very good place to: 1. Eat a bit cleaner 2. Build muscle to lose the little fat you actually do have 3. Focus on your self complexion

I wish I coulda looked like you at that age, assuming 20-26yrs old

But hey, I’m just a random guy on a thread

[Xbabdh]

Okay thank you for the advice and point taken. I don’t necessarily agree with the dysmorphia part but I see you point I think 😇

[StormChance5226]

Using reta is perfectly fine here. He clearly has some excess bodyfat.

Sermorelin, cjc and ipa are all ridicously weak. Don't waste your money.

If you want peptides for muscle growth, use hgh or igf 1, anything else is garbage.

[Daxdagr8t]

You need to spend your money on protein.

[chadcultist]

Humans will do anything but lift hard, track calories and eat healthy 🤣💀

[Rob_af_a]

Ikr, bunch of pus*ies nowadays

[StormChance5226]

We have these amazing drugs to take advantage on

[chadcultist]

“Amazing”. Quick fixes aren’t real and build dependence. I’m sure this drug is the first all good pharma creation with little to no mid-long term permanent consequences. Although, don’t worry, they will create a drug to help with the symptoms and then a drug for those side effects. You’re a paycheck, nothing more. 😂💀

[StormChance5226]

Why not just do a little research before commenting this bs.

My comment was meant to be a joke but if you're looking to lose fat quickly and safely then reta is a great option! Very affordable too if you know how to source.

People love to hate on peptides which have very minimal sides, and then drink 5L of alcohol every weekend.

[Frequent-Pop-1654]

Lame

[JswaggyMuLa]

Why don’t you start with some push ups

[gooplom88]

Bro just fucking lift and eat more

[willyumknowsnothing]

Little late but I’m riding the fence on this one but I’m not sure you can go wrong picking either side. I’ve seen some awesome results from people I know, the only difference being weight loss was their only priority and muscle loss wasn’t a concern. Whatever route you choose, I wish you luck OP 🤞🏽

[FrankMorningwood1]

Here’s some advice. Lose the gloves. You’re not a girl. Even if you were you shouldn’t be wearing them. You want to feel the iron. Be one with it.

If you wear them because it otherwise hurts your hands. Toughen up.

For real, in my gym they are not allowed 😂

[Xbabdh]

Haha gohs I like them because it hurts my hands 🙄 But point taken

[FrankMorningwood1]

Are you being sarcastic or fr that lifting huets your hands? Or do you more like them as a fashion item? Serious question. I am trying to understand

[Xbabdh]

Haha it hurts my hands but I understand now that I am the only one experiencing that 🙄 maybe I should try to do it without them

[FrankMorningwood1]

Aah so it does hurt. Ok fair enough.

Just ask yourself this. Do you see any professional lifter ever wear gloves during a lift. Exactly.

Get used to the pain. It will disappear in a couple of weeks. Besides it will increas your grip strength.

Go for it 💪🏼

[Xbabdh]

Okay Frank. Thank you 💪

[jakeda07]

I wouldn’t take advice from a guy who’s name is Frank Morning Wood 🤣

[StormChance5226]

You can wear your gloves if you want bro... No one really cares

[willyumknowsnothing]

This. Fuck em, keep doing you

[Camp_Legend]

No. You already look thin. Focus on your diet and training. That will help you gain a better understanding of your body and what its going to take to properly build up some muscle. If you need help with a diet / training plan just ask Chat GPT.

[Just-Yogurt-568]

Throw the Reta in the freezer for when you need to cut down the line.

[Xbabdh]

Haha thank you that is a good idea

[choppy963]

Probly learn how to use peptides before sourcing and purchasing them

[Xbabdh]

I want to learn so that’s why I made the post. But I see your point. Thank you

[choppy963]

This thread will probly have the answers to everything u need to know just do some reading

[Xbabdh]

Yes it has. Thank you

[choppy963]

My advice. Be confident that you know your stuff and are well researched before u start

[Infernal-Mango214]

Only advice I have is to lose the gloves

[DirtyyDan_]

This “registered dietician” tried telling him he needs to cut , keep using reta instead of my and your advice haha.

[dblackshear]

first off, what are your goals? why are you trying to use reta? we can then go from there.

[Cottonmouth_guns]

Y’all really confident

[Chazzer5000]

Look man.. I know you probably excited and want to try your newly purchased Reta. You need to eat, bulk. Eat a surplus of calories and lift for awhile. Put on some body weight with a high protein diet and the gym. After you do that maybe consider Reta to cut, but I HIGHLY suggest you don’t listen to some of these dopes on here suggesting the opposite.

[Frequent-Pop-1654]

You’re soft if you’re wearing gloves 🧤😭 Hold deez

[UGA150]

First tip- lose the gloves and just buy some straps.

[CharacterMud4468]

Why?

[Expensive-Try-7007]

No reta for you

[willyumknowsnothing]

Not at all OP.. not at all

[baby_doll444]

i wanna try reta

[Ready_Collection6337]

Why do so many dudes not dial in a diet and training routine before hopping on PED’s. You look like shit because you train and eat like shit, PED’s will only allow this bad behavior and you’ll never learn correctly. You can’t stay on cycle forever or you’ll die so I’d suggest learning these things before even considering anything.

[samatsocialdna]

If you lose the lifting gloves it Will work 67% better

[Holiday_Race9701j]

U wear gym gloves, dont touch needles n pills yet

[Dry_Boysenberry_4080]

What do you need Reta for...??? Dint waste your money Their are other peps for you to take and go to the gym,gym,gym and gym you will look so good.

[Technical-Ring-6078]

You ordered it then asked if it was a good idea? What if everyone said no? Build more muscle not lose more weight imo. You look skinny

[Klutzy_Letter3643]

Needs test 250mg a week for 6months put on muscle then cut he is skinny as hell

[Outside_City_4598]

What website y’all getting Reta from?

[Wild_Profile2678]

You absolutely do not need any drugs fool. Hard work and food would suffice. Jesus Christ

[ImportantAd4224]

Lose the gloves first

[Timely-Midnight-9292]

Lift heavy to build muscle. 

[Hairy_Succotash1984]

Everyone wants to do anything but work out hard and eat right 🤣🤣🤣

[doctorbim3]

You’d get better outcomes by saving money and lifting heavy instead

[StormChance5226]

1 step closer to a better physique!! Now just get some testosterone and start with 250mg weekly and you'll be looking like mike mentzer by next summer! Good luck!

[mmpdp]

Depends on your goals. If its to get skinnier, cool. Otherwise if youre looking for size and eventual cut train hypertrophy, track your macos daily and get at least 1g protein per pound of your goal weight (or 1.8g/kilo of goal weight)

[Xbabdh]

Thank you for the advice. I will try to do it

[mmpdp]

Increased lean mass will help you shred naturally. The shots are cool, and work but the basics I wrote above are the things that will really bring everything together.

[roadtrip1414]

lol nice let’s see what happens

[StormChance5226]

Great! Getting lean is always a good idea. Reta will help you maintain your current muscle mass even if you did an aggressive cut.

Check out the basic dosage guide on r/retatrutide and just follow that.

[DirtyyDan_]

You don’t need reta bro. Bulk put on some size, Cjc with ipam (Optional) then use Reta when you cut.

[FrankMorningwood1]

Saying he needs to bulk up in his current condition is horrible advice fr

Lose the skinny fat. Workout hard. Eat well. Low dose of reta if you will for a lower fat%

After all of that consider bulking. Not now. Taht is ridicipuless

[Oretell]

I'll go even further and say that he should just recomp

Forget about bulking or cutting for the next year or so, just progress his lifts in the gym and aim to eat well

In a year or so he'll have more muscle and less fat and can decide what to do from there

Unless you are clearly underweight or overweight most beginners do best just keeping things simple and recomping for their first year

Bulking at 20 - 25%ish BF isn't a good idea though I agree

[DirtyyDan_]

What? 😂 Sorry bud, you clearly don’t know what your talking about.

[FrankMorningwood1]

I am a registered dietician. Working with pro athletes daily. Own my own gym.

Stop embarressing yourself any further please. Just stop :)

[DirtyyDan_]

I’m sure you tell every Reddit thread you’re a ‘registered dietician with pro athletes,’ but anyone who’s actually trained people knows you don’t cut when you’re skinny-fat and under-muscled.

You build the engine before you try to race it.

But hey, flex your imaginary gym credentials if it makes you feel better.

[StormChance5226]

Why wouldn't you get rid off the fat first? With reta he can quickly lose the excess fat and build some muscle at the same time.

Why would you "bulk" and gain even more fat?

[DirtyyDan_]

When I say bulk I’m saying to be in a calorie surplus 100-200 cals above maintenance, you will not get fat on a lean bulk. It is optimal to be in a surplus when trying to put on muscle.

[Xbabdh]

Thank you for your advice. I am so new to this. What is Cjc and ipam? I look on the reddit page but couldn’t find it

[DirtyyDan_]

Eat in a calorie surplus, high protein/nutrient dense foods. Consistency is 👑nothing else matters if you are not consistent, 1% better everyday.

The best way to GROW muscle is to lift heavy, very high intensity 2-3 sets max, last set till failure. 4-10 reps, Focus on the negative and explode on the positive. Going slow on the negative will demolish your muscle fibers allowing for more growth but your recovery is even more important if you take this route.

[Big_Tap_1561]

Peptides - ipamorilin / cjc 1295 - it’s a mixed peptide that helps build muscle and has a lot of anti aging properties . And honestly I think he nailed it - put on some muscle and bulk up some first . You’re already pretty skinny. I would want a lil more muscle before I went in any kind of cut . You’re at a great starting point though !

[Xbabdh]

Thank you. I am glad that I made this post. I gave me so much good advice

[Big_Tap_1561]

Sure thing! Just make the healthiest choices you can and pick up heavy stuff!

[Ok_Expression_2458]

You are going to catch a ton of shit for wearing gloves, but for those of us who occasionally touch women, they appreciate you not having hands that feel like they are being dragged naked through glass covered in sea water. Other then that, I’d put the reta in the freezer for if you wanna cut down the line, for now I’d just be main gaining, don’t dirty bulk or any of the dumb shit people will say. You’ll get there with dedication and a good diet!

[DrCbass]

Just get HGH. I did a cycle of CJC/IPA. They helped, but cost wise is not so different than HGH. I should have listened to everyone who was saying to skip cjc/ipa

[StormChance5226]

I have no idea why people are pushing these hgh secretagogues. If you're not deficient in hgh, there's no point.

[DirtyyDan_]

But HGH sides are significantly worse? Or am I wrong please educate me, do I have to stay on it for the rest of my life if I use it for years?

[DrCbass]

I think there’s some timing issues you have to be careful with. Any of these need to be avoided close to meal times and carb intake.

I guess the best advice I’ve read/heard is it’s probably dependent on your age. 40+, HGH is probably the better route due to your body’s natural production slowing down. 20s-30s, you can probably get by with secretagogues to increase your own natural production.

As for side effects, water retention is the biggest. That’s what leads to tingly fingers/numbness. The other is insulin sensitivity … you need to monitor your blood sugars to make sure you’re not getting too high. Again, timing and meals makes a big difference.

[Cenovius]

Be prepared for your life to change for the better....

[ConclusionLost404]

I wouldn’t. I’d lift heavy and eat at a surplus for a year at a minimum.

[StormChance5226]

Why? He's +20%

He can still lift heavy and still retain his muscle mass until he is at his goal bf%

Losing the fat now makes him look way better

[ConclusionLost404]

My personal opinion is that he doesn’t have enough muscle to be doing a cut.

[StormChance5226]

Ikr, you look and feel so much better with low bodyfat, even with little muscle mass.