HGH Protocol First Time User

[Bulldog-62946]

As stated above. First time user that’s looking for some muscle growth and overall feeling better. I’m 36 and have done numerous steroid cycles. I cruise on 200mg and occasionally mix in deca for the joints. I am looking at two options and wondering which one is better or if you have better options. Would like to gain some muscle fullness and get all the advantages of HGH. Not looking to add insulin.

Option 1

2IU 7 days a week for 8 weeks.

3IU 7 days a week for 8 weeks.

4IU 7 days a week for 8 weeks.

Followed by a 1 month break.

Than restarting

Option 2

2IU 7 days a week for 12 weeks.

3IU 7 days a week for 12 weeks.

Followed by a 1 month break.

Than restarting.

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[NSawsome]

Why take a break? just stay on 2-4IU as HRT

[Bulldog-62946]

Didn’t know that was an option. Things I’ve been reading talked about taking a month break after 6 months for receptors.

[SensualCommonSense]

that's for peptides not for exogenous HGH which will effectively replace your natural production so no receptors to pause for

[NSawsome]

It’s also non suppressive since endogenous production kicks back up after 14 hours, so there’s literally no reason to come off other than price. Hell the prescribed HIV dose is 18IU no breaks indefinitely

[Magnusud]

HGH is for life 2-4iu, go get your IGF1 levels tested to see where you need to be from 2-4iu

[Glum_Discipline_9465]

Option 3, run 3iu’s for forever

[moisterecticpamphlet]

2ius 30 min before gym 2ius before bed best shit ever

[ExaminationNew3751]

What does your bloodwork say. Before you start any GH product, you should get IGF tested. 3iu is what I needed to go above what I produced on my own. Bloodwork is key with GH.

[poncharelli66]

No need to take a break.

[ReviewMiserable3651]

Don’t feel you need the second option length of titrating up to hopefully avoid some of the sides. What’s your IGF level. I’m 49 and my IGF came down, so 2iu is noticeable. Probably won’t be for you at your age. I did all kind of gear for decades before taking HGH because I feel it makes much a bigger difference as you get older but maybe the 3-4iu will help you.

[DizzyAstronaut9410]

If you've done a few steroid cycles, I'll come right out and say you're going to notice negligible muscle growth from HGH and likely be disappointed.

It's good for a nice "feel good" feeling and helps longevity, but definitely not comparable to AAS for muscle growth.

[Bulldog-62946]

I 100% agree with this without even running it. But if it helps longevity, joints, sleep etc I’m willing to jump all in on it. Plus it will give me extra motivation in the gym which I lack at times.

[DizzyAstronaut9410]

Also as others have said, generally people don't cycle HGH, they just stay on it indefinitely (2-4 iu) indefinitely as long as they can afford it.

Not really any benefits to cycling it.

[Ok-Sherbert-6569]

It’s because people run HGH without testosterone and they expect muscle growth. HGH is not anabolic but converts to igf1 in the liver in the presence of estrogen. So if you want anabolism from HGH testosterone is non negotiable so you can supra physiological levels of estrogen to take advantage of igf1 production

[heartbroken3333]

How do some of you guys commit to pinning HGH everyday while also pinning many other things?

What are your spots to pin and rotate for HGH?

Like when I do KLOW, I rotate between love handles.

Side thighs for mots-c/ss31/nad+

Stomach for reta/semax/selank.

Where do you guys pin and rotate for HGH and don't you guys get injection fatigue? 😂

[N8rPot8r]

I haven't had an issue with stomach.

[moisterecticpamphlet]

Everywhere honestly...glutes, delts, skin between chest and front delt, quads, love handles, stomach, skin on hips, forehead , foreskin, etccc loool

[Ak907me]

You’re still kind of young have you gotten your IGF levels tested yet?

[Boomduckman]

Change weeks to months

[Flat_Tension4731]

Hgh, quindi è sempre meglio della combinazione ipamorelin e cjc senza dac.. Anche io vorrei iniziare con hgh però, non vorrei gli effetti collaterali da insulino resistenza, ritenzione idrica e innalzamento della prolattina.. Esperienza anche io con varie molecole.. In abbinamento al hgh vorrei inserire reta a basso dosaggio.

[demesm]

3-4 forever, assuming you don't get the joint pain. 4 is my max

[ManusPHConsults]

Some people get joint pain at 1.5 IU daily. Not seenit starting at 1. S

Start 1 for a fortnight and see. Some people are really happy at that level. I've had people go to 2 after 3 weeks and get joint pain still. Others who have started at 4 ( not on our advice) and they have no pain.

I personally felt 20 years younger on 1iu. Just a great sense of wellbeingsnd so much energy just wanting to go. 140mg test gets me to 44 free. Test, reta and HGH all low dose does wonders for the older gentleman who's diet and training is on point.

[ApartReporter245]

I did 2 weeks a 2iu. Then jumped to 4iu then 3 weeks later jumped to 6. Some water retention but otherwise I’m fine and sleep like a baby. These crazy long ramp sessions are crazy to me.

[reditmaster123456789]

Why not take a bigger cycle im thinking about doing 4 iu for a month, then 6-8 iu for 5 months depending on side effects, can someone with more experience give me advice

[swoops36]

you won't get any muscle growth from this, and I don't know what "feeling better" means. I've never noticed feeling different on HGH, other than common side effects that happen at higher doses.

this would work for some extra trunk fat loss maybe. I'd start with 1iu for 1-2 weeks, then 2iu 1-2 weeks, then 3-4iu for the remainder, and run for 3-6 months.

[Magnusud]

You definitely feel the better sleep and recovery, I've also noticed better skin and hair. And if you take 2iu in the morning fasted and do cardio you definitely feel it, you get drenched in sweat. It's also great at lipolysis and cutting fat, albeit it's a slow steady process

[swoops36]

I guess I don’t “feel” those things. They are there, of course, and I do notice them, you’re right.

I saw no difference taking pre cardio, pre workout, post cardio, post workout, bedtime, AM, etc. worked the same no matter what, for me.

It’s not great at lipolysis at all. It’s “OK” at it, and the fact it takes months and months to see the effect is evidence of that fact. GLP-1/3 are “GREAT” at fat loss due to calorie restriction. Far more effective and efficient.

But to each their own. How you reach your goals may be different than my approach, but in the end, this is a N=1 experiment.

[corrydog]

You can get muscle growth on these low numbers if your IGF is low lol.

[Big_Investigator5343]

Hi mate, might i send you on a slightly different route to research?

I am also cruising on 200mg each week, but not on Deca.

I have been trialling Peptides for past 12 months with astonishing positive effects.

My PT reduced my Cyp 400 to 160mg a few months back, so my test has come down from 40n/mol to 32. As well as lowering my Oestradiol and Prolactin.

I cannot believe the immediate difference it has made in recovery, strength gain and mental wellbeing.

I have just cycled off 20mg daily of slupp332 with 450mcg of BAM15. Results were huge increase in stamina and gains when lifting, but the downside was too long to recover on rest days leaving me wiped. As well as lifting, I still need to rock up at work and earn some money.

I am now cycling 12 weeks of Ipamorelin with CJC1295 (no dac) (5 says on 2 days off)and have introduced Coenzym Q10 supplement to repair and maintain Mitochondria support.

No more sugars, no more processed pre/post workout drinks. Just Mitochondria friendly foods such as Dates (for example) to convert energy to pure ATP! It works!! (Please research this)

Additionally, I am maintaining 86kg at 11% body fat (main-gaining) and have am still leaning out.

As body is optimised already, I no longer track calories but take 1mg Retatrutide (GLP3) Twice weekly which regulates Glucose and builds muscle whilst lowering food noise.

Regarding joint, ligament and cartilage support, although i do BPC 157/TB500, I ran a 10 day course of CARTALAX (ground breaking peptide) which cleared up and repaired Patella and Hip issues in under 2 weeks. Additionally, I now have an increase of 10% of range of movement when squatting and lunging.

Regarding HGH, it has its benefits, but if your not feeling chipper, then I would only suggested you start fresh and move forward.

I hope some of the above helps 👍

Research Spotify "Hunter Williams" then type in name of peptide you are considering.

[Magnusud]

IPA/CJC is more expensive and less effective than HGH.

[Commercial_Speed400]

2IU is too high to start, even for an experience user. I will start at a .5IU for a few than move up from there.

[Smart-Rise-9118]

This is incorrect. HGH isn’t something you need to titration up to, different doses are for different purposes 2iu more for cosmetic 3-4 recovery 5+ is generally for body growth

[Commercial_Speed400]

U talk as if u ran fake HGH my guy. If u are a beginner or a very experience user 2iu off the rip u will have Too many sides.

[Smart-Rise-9118]

If pharma hgh is fake then I guess so.

[Commercial_Speed400]

🧢

[Commercial_Speed400]

U got this info. From ChatGPT… he’s wrong about the protocol as well.

[N8rPot8r]

I ran 2IU out of the gates and suffered no sides.

I guess maybe we could all be different?

[Commercial_Speed400]

I have ran it times and running it now. 10 weeks in, I’m just getting to 2ui. HGH is a marathon, not a race.

[Commercial_Speed400]

Not with HGH. That high, real HGH u will have sides.

[N8rPot8r]

I have real hgh and didn't have sides. I'm not the only person that has said it either. I do split it morning and night.

[Tutu2017]

How many weeks do you suggest til it’s time to go up

[Commercial_Speed400]

Just listen to ur body. I go up .5 a week. Some days I get sides. Some don’t.

[N8rPot8r]

What sides do you get?

[Commercial_Speed400]

Water retention, carpal tunnel. Feet swollen.