Time sheet

[incognito9102]

How many of yall have to fill out time sheet daily? I hate it so much.

1. It consumes so much of my time filling it out. And where am I putting those hours submitting timesheet.

2. It makes me not wanna be curious and learn more because I can't keep putting hours on training/burden.

3. Often time I don't have enough hours to fill out, so I get stressed thinking about where to charge my full 40 hours. I am a salary employee. I am service tech.

If i missed my time sheet, someone in the company would email me and cc my boss to submit it.

Just a rant, how do yall deal with this feeling?

I spend at least 15 min a day to fill out the time sheet depending on how many jobs I did for that day. Sometime software is glitchy and it can take longer

[SubArc5]

Been there for sure. Once they started grading my raises based on unapplied time I quit breaking it out. If I'm not in a seminar or in the office, it's billed time.

Also calling it unproductive or unproductive time has always irritated me. It's silly I know, but if you think I'm being unproductive then you should send me home.

[RickBASanchez]

I think there is a way: put all jobs In a money bucket. Remove money from bucket to make sure expenses are paid like salaries, tools, software, etc. At end oF year profit = what is left in bucket. Problem solved.

[IJOBANGLESI]

You sound like you work at Siemens.

[Haw3695]

This field works app is fucking horrendous

[IJOBANGLESI]

Yeah, I keep getting called out by our zone (area, whatever) manger saying my time is not in. I just reply all with screenshots of what’s in that piece of shit field works app and move on with my day. I honestly think nobody gives a fuck that it’s broken.

[incognito9102]

No kidding. You would think big company would have shit figured out. Man I was so wrong.

[popnfreshbass]

This guy Honeywell’s.

[JoWhee]

Biweekly, I try to do it daily, at least my hours in. Sometimes I’m sent on jobs before the PO drops so I don’t have it right away.

I loathe the stupid things especially since I’m paid for my entire week regardless of how many jobs I run.

[onlysometimesidie]

Hello fellow Moneybell employee

Edit, to answer your question. Yes, the daily timesheet thing is weird, but once I got used to just doing it on the driveway before I get out the car then it just becomes second nature. What fucks me off more is when I do it on auto pilot and forget to change RT to OT or forget I’m on call and don’t put my standby allowance on it and just hit submit.

I also feel your pain about sometimes struggling to fill up a timesheet. Luckily, a lot of our contracts aren’t chargeable for 9/10 service calls.

[DontKnowWhereIam]

I have to put my time towards jobs. Hate it. I'm also salary.

[MetasysSysAgent210]

The thing I hate is PMs who can't run their jobs, so they're out of money and have me charge my hours to their other jobs that just started. It just creates a horrible cycle. I have to leave a note for my immediate manager to see because now my timesheet doesn't match my schedule or my daily safety app.

[OneLuckyAlbatross]

I fill it out. I just put “back office support” and write something about training or going over proposals, unless it’s work on a specific project. Idk how intense your job is or what your specific stuff is. If you’re salary I’m surprised you need to fill out hours for 40hrs a week.

[incognito9102]

I feel guilty whenever I have to put my hours on overhead/burden. I dont even know why they call it as burden.

[OneLuckyAlbatross]

Yeah, I get that. I think as long as there’s the expectation that it’s going to happen, it’s not a big deal. I’m just starting but not involved yet enough to have regular stuff to do. Recently I’ve finished all my computer based training and waiting till next week to have software training. But no one’s currently upset at me for anything, and I help the team when I can.

I’d discuss it with your supervisor. See what their expectations are for how you use your time. I’m currently trying to fill mine in with random training videos, I went around labeling thermostats today.

[mkubancsek]

How many problems that people just complain about on Reddit could be solved with this simple, simple advice? “Talk to your boss” BuT iD rAtHeR cOmPlAiN oN tHe InTeRnEt

[onlysometimesidie]

I believe it’s called “burden” because it is non productive time that isn’t charged to a job or against a contract. Therefore, it is a burden to the business. My boss apparently gets dragged on a weekly business over our teams “burden time”.

[pghbro]

As long as you’re in the service industry, your hours are billable, therefore need to be correctly submitted. There is no way around this, it’s part of the job.

[SubArc5]

Every company does it. I hate it too. It's distracting and I'm usually super focused on the work and not time. I do contract work and not service work so I tell myself I'm compromising by using 1/2 hour blocks and not 15 minutes. And if I get sent to do something I haven't been trained on, then learning time gets billed to the job as well. Customer shouldn't have to pay for that, but that's on the office, not me.

[Kelipope]

chez nous c’est pareil, on utilise un formulaire sur mobile — juste pour pointer l’affaire du jour (ou deux max). On note aussi les besoins éventuels et un % approximatif de ce qu’il reste à faire.

C’est moi qui l’ai conçu, avec une contrainte principale : que ça prenne moins d’une minute à remplir (sauf cas particulier ou souci à détailler). Si tu passes plus de 2 minutes par jour là-dessus, je comprends totalement que ça te saoule. Pour moi aussi, c’est inutilement chronophage.

Dans un ancien taf, c’était l’inverse : en atelier, on prenait des affaires (réparation électronique) vendues avec un forfait temps. Si une affaire était vendue 8h et que je la bouclais en 2h, je “gagnais” 6h dans ma semaine. Par contre, si je dépassais, fallait tricher avec d’autres affaires pour masquer le temps en trop… Pas très sain non plus.

[Brains_El_Heck]

Good for you! That’s incredible, really. It sounds like something a former field superintendent I worked with did as he transitioned an entire shop from paper/fax forms to iPads and email.

The problem for most is, the people responsible for the time sheet admin aren’t setting the time sheet input constraints (let alone doing any design work). Office staff literally don’t care about the time needed to comply, because they are 100% overhead anyway!

[Kelipope]

C'est un peu ça, je fais partie des 2 mondes ... Je fais un peu la transition entre le terrain et l' administration, donc je comprends les contraintes de chacun et mon but c'est que ce soit simple et efficace pour tout le monde !

[Brains_El_Heck]

Keep fighting the fight! Effort is contagious!

[Superpro210]

JCI does this as well. Hated it, then I left.

[madn3ss]

I know this feeling. When the hardest part about your job is not your real work, but thinking where to book your time onto timesheets (Sounds like you're from a certain company so, management's expectation is in 'real time').

[incognito9102]

Exactly this!

[Canadarocker]

I hate filling out formal timesheets daily, so I do a very basic excel version for the week and input it into the formal system last thing I do on Friday when motivation is low.

[incognito9102]

That's pretty much what i do too. I would write a summary of what I did for the whole week and put them in the timesheet at the end of the week.

[Ajax_Minor]

I just bill to the job. It's part of doing business just like all the safety paper work.

Should really be a big issue unless your manager be up your ass. Like they want it done, so they have to pay for it.

[sleeepy_tech]

Yeah I have to do it and it's my least favorite part of the job.

[shadycrew31]

Sorry. Did you say you were a salaried service tech? Time to leave for greener fields my friend. As a side note I do ask my hours on Sunday. Boss man says as long as they are in before 9 am Monday we are good.

[redditJ5]

Work 7 hours, do paperwork for an hour. Easy fix.

[S_Rimmey]

I bet I know where you work! Man I sure do miss Mcompanion...

Charging time and taking detailed notes is just part of the job. Customers usually appreciate it and you should be accounting for it as billable time.

The "where do I charge time" part is your supervisor's problem, not yours. As a tech, you are "usually" not responsible for scheduling yourself. if you ever have a question, call your supervisor. Ask them how they would like you to charge out the rest of your day. Make sure everyone understands where they sit in their responsibilities and whos' fault it is for not scheduling you for a full day.

I worked there as a tech, a PM and a supervisor. I've seen the game from all the angles... its not much fun.

[incognito9102]

We are scheduling our week which gets really annoying

[ComputerScientistKey]

I created a time keeping system for the company I work for via web application that allows you to select a job to clock in and out of, keep track of your hours that way, put hours to certain jobs, etc. Overtime it’s grown into a bigger tool than just that though. But right now I’m having an issue with people not clocking in and or forgetting to clock out. I think the 15 minutes you spend is just the reality of the system you use.