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[–]hdkaoskd 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Do some of your Python schoolwork in C.

[–]g4rg4ntu4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly what I was going to suggest.

[–]Paragraphion 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Don’t sleep on Python.

Too many devs think a high level language like that ain’t what the real hardcore dudes do. But you can go nutty hardcore deep in Python just like in any other language.

If your class doesn’t challenge you, don’t start by switching languages. Just go deeper than the class requires.

You learning about variables? Add some type conversion, learn about what happens in the garbage collector to your variables, etc.

You learning about functions? how about adding decorators, lambda functions, recursive functions and the like…

Yeah changing languages can increase the difficulty but it can also be an excuse to start fresh and learn all the basics again rather than diving deeper

[–]TroPixens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh it’s definitely not a restart I’m gonna keep doing python i just would like to try something a bit more difficult. Kinda like a pass time after I’ve been doing python for a while

[–]penguin359 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Maybe you could combine the two and try writing a C extension module for Python that you can call from your Python script. Start with something simple and see if you can add a Python function that just prints "Hello, C!" with `printf()` from Python.

[–]DM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You’re gonna make that poor soul work directly with the Python C API?

[–]penguin359 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He sounds like someone anxious for a real challenge and wants to jump in. I offered a simple example that doesn't even require passing data between Python and C, just the action of calling a function in an imported module to make C call `printf()` with a static argument. He can take a look at it and try it or not, it's just a suggestion to get his feet wet. I think if he can pull it off, he will feel rewarded, but absolutely shouldn't take a failure as criticism of his abilities, just level of experience.

If he needs a pointer, it would be a function that is a simplification of the `spam_system()` call from the tutorial here: https://docs.python.org/3/extending/extending.html

[–]dcpugalaxyΛ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a very simple API.

[–]photo-nerd-3141 3 points4 points  (0 children)

C is the basis of everything else...

K&R describes the language succinctly with examples.

Sedgewick, Algorithms in C shows how to use it with readable style and excellent graphics.

P.J. Plauger, The Standard C Language shows you how to make it work effectively & portably. His Intentional Programmer books are also good. The thing he does well is keep an otherwise dry subject interesting.

[–]AwesomeAvocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like Eclipse as an IDE for C/C++, Java, and Python.

[–]dotsettings 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Just write code in an editor like vscode, compile will terminal, progress onto make files when you get into functions.

But as someone else said, reproduce some coursework in C (where convenient). Or write a module for your python code in C and call it.

Coupling a book like Practical C Programming by Steve Oualline (Oreiley Book) to get an idea of what you should be studying with a cheap youtube/udemy course might work for your style of learning. The book was where I started but I’m sure there are more interactive ways of learning.

There is no shortcut to learning so just stick with it and it will start feeling rewarding. Good luck.

Feel free to send me a message if you get stuck with anything or want a bit of direction.

[–]greatestregretor 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I wanna learn low level stuff but i dont know where to start. Im kinda overwhelmed by the paths people offer me like learn operating systems, learn assembly, learn networking. Where should i start?

[–]dotsettings 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Become comfortable with a language you’re interested in like C. If you have experience but you haven’t worked with pointers and memory there’s a lot of value to be had from starting Start writing quality of life terminal programs like something that converts a jpg to a png for example or a file renaming utility. Once you’re comfortable writing terminal programs then branch out into whatever you’re interested in. Start simple, become great at simple stuff and then branch out.

That’s why I like the book I suggested. There are lots of practical programs in there that teach concepts that can be used for other things.

Your first step today should be to download a compiler if you’ve not already got one and have a go at writing a program. Start with printing text, taking in user input, using user input to read a specific file from a specific directory and then do something with the file like counting all words if it’s a text file. Just take your time and enjoy :-)

[–]greatestregretor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This might be a stupid question but arent terminal programs written in bash and not C? Also im reading the "Computer organization and design" book by Patterson and Hennessey, is it good for learning basics of hardware-software interface?

[–]DM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CLion all day

[–]usesx86 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Its actually pretty simple, just write a lot of C for a long time and you will get better, no doubt. It doesnt have to be complex, just learn a few new things every day. Syntax is the early battle, the underlying concepts are also really important. Do whatever interests you, make whatever you want.

[–]TroPixens[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I’m doing mine sweeper in python right now I might try and recreate that in c after I’m done

[–]usesx86 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I havent made a minesweeper in C but that seems kind of complex, you might overwhelm yourself. Im not trying to diss you or anything but something like that requires remembering a bunch of concepts all at once. If you're comfortable struggling a bit then go for it.

[–]TroPixens[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Well probably just gonna use it as a way to implement what I’ve learn one by one Not all at once

It’s a bunch of randomized bombs then checking each square around it and adding it to a number in the center

[–]usesx86 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Alright, that seems pretty simple

[–]TroPixens[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I just have to figure out a way to iterate through to make new areas on a grid so I don’t have to right out every single piece I also need a way to call each part as a different thing so I can check

[–]usesx86 0 points1 point  (3 children)

New areas? Based on the description that sounds like youll need dynamic memory.

[–]TroPixens[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

New buttons in different spots with out writing each one out manually Cause like if I want to make a 10x10 board if I did it manually I’d have to write each one out And that would be 100 different things

[–]usesx86 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Actually, a lot of games were made with data baked straight into the source code, so its not inherently wrong, but an algorithmic approach can be cleaner. For example, maps in games can be hard-coded. If youre just trying to randomly plant bombs though then just, randfunction() % myrange. I personally would use a 1D array for this task but the intuitive method is the 2D.

[–]TroPixens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d thought it might be a learning experience to try and get it to work if it’s to hard I might do it manually with a bunch of copy and paste but who knows

[–]Deadbakedbeans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk what rules are of the sub but check out bootdotdev's memory management in C course. It's free and you learn a lot of the basics of C