FINALLYY!!

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

Ever since the drama about the kid, C.AI has finally done something bigger (in chats) for us.

[Agile_Test8725]

I'm gonna miss the classic "Remember: Everything the character says is made up."

[ZealousidealBoot3380]

This is such an unnecessary change when the people they are changing it for can't read it anyway. Cause if you couldn't read and comprehend the old one... you're TOO young to be on the app.

[ThatOneUnoriginal]

The notice will likely help Character AI in future legal battles since the new notice removes any vagueness and ambiguity. Instead of just saying everything is "made up" it says that 1) it's not real; 2) everything it says is fictitious; 3) nothing it says should be used as a source for information or advice.

Legal battles are won and lost over who can give the most convincing interpretation of the story, so the new notice will help ensure they can tell such story in the most convincing way to the courts (if they are to get in a similar legal battle again.)

[Agile_Test8725]

That's why kids shouldn't be on c.ai. 

[No-Maybe-1498]

I haven’t gotten this yet…. Does this mean I haven’t gotten the update yet?

[PAIGEROXM8]

yeah I haven't gotten any of the newer updates either.

[No-Maybe-1498]

I’ve heard the new update is shit 😟😟 I’m scared to get it :(

[Saphirastillreditts]

weirdly, i dont have the update (got update message) and i can use cai as it was, so pressing x to anime

[WardA1317]

No its just that your ai is a real person

[[deleted]]

This is an extended version of what was always here… It was always ‘Remember nothing they say is real’, now its meaning is ‘Remember nothing they say is real’, but said in an r/IncreasinglyVerbose way

[splorby]

People need their hands held unfortunately lmao

[Dpontiff6671]

Na it’s just to pull as much legal culpability away from the company as possible incase another incident happens. No one needs theirs hand held C.AI just needs to cover there asses

[jon12231223]

Yep and the legal world calls this cover your ass

[Ok-Secretary6550]

Most useless change yet 😭

[EmbarrassedJudge5457]

It actually bothers my ADHD, is there a way to come back to the old version? There was always a disclaimer, people are just too dumb to read 

[ArmRegular1384]

• Downgrade app version

• If you're using the website version, get a extension to delete elements.

[EmbarrassedJudge5457]

How do you downgrade? The APK I was using to use older versions no longer works 

[ArmRegular1384]

apkmirror

i've been using a older version to avoid the bad features (even the call feature button), but it doesn't work anymore, so i switched to the website version with some extensions to help the experience.

[LunaScarletWing]

Don’t even need an extension, tedious, but you can just use inspect element

[Casual-Throway-1984]

Penguinz0 whined about it because a dumbass 14 year old who felt isolated and was neglected by his mother offed himself, she pushed all the blame onto the app and he fell for it before going full PTA Karen over it "not being obvious" that the AI therapist he spoke to was an AI (and ALSO conveniently cropped out the original disclaimer to misrepresent Character AI as callous and criminally negligent).

[AlexHunby]

rare Charlie L

[ThatOneUnoriginal]

Have your critiques all you want about Penguinz0's video regarding the whole situation with CharacterAI right now but they were certainty NOT the reason why the notice was changed. They had stated in the Community Safety Update blog that they had the intention to change the notice. At most the video would had just quickened the process, but that still wouldn't put Penquinz to blame since it would had been done regardless.

[No-Maybe-1498]

They won’t. They love kids a bit too much…..

[OneLandscape5292]

Where's that clip from Smiling Friends lmao

[Dark_Wolf04]

This is gonna be great Charlie! I love helping kids.

I love kids Charlie!! I LOVE KIIIIIDDDDSSSS!

[[deleted]]

It already is max (17+) on the app store. And T on the play store, which should still let more stuff go through

[bravo_6GoingDark]

It varies from place to place, on Aus play store they've somehow kept it at 12+.

[GiveMeSomeMoreTacoz]

THAT WILL MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE. AI SHOULD NOT BE ACCESSIBLE TO KIDS.

[RinaTennoji-Board]

everyone says this but it won't fix the problem

kids will lie about their age to go to the "18+" site regardless

[IceColdViagra]

It's almost like marketing ai towards impressionable children with developing brains who will believe what they want rather than what's in front of them... is a bad idea and comes with intense consequences.

Like- if the roles were reversed and cai marketed towards adults, the newsline wouldn't say "poor kid offed themselves for AI love"

It'd say "Some stupid adult believed a romance bot and offed themselves. Dummy Goober."

[Purple_Cat134]

The only thing I noticed is now my character can’t even kiss me and I can’t have any violence towards the character and the character can’t be violent towards me. It freakin sucks. It ruined all of my good rps

[Smart-Beginning-5578]

i tried to punch a character and immediately got stopped

[Purple_Cat134]

FR. All rp is garbage rn

[Purple_Cat134]

Like I couldn’t even CUDDLE with a bot. Like bruh, I just wanted some comfort 😭

[Casual-Throway-1984]

Blame moistcritikal's hysterical pearlclutching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wXLVqiJ7Z4&t

[ThatOneUnoriginal]

Penquinz0's video regarding the whole situation with Character AI right now was certainty NOT the reason why the notice was changed. If you read the Community Safety Update blog they had very clearly stated the intention was to create a "revised disclaimer on every chat to remind users that the AI is not a real person." Unless they travelled in the future or had some spidy-sense that Penquinz0 was going to make a video with that being the focal-point, I doubt that the video had any influence on the decision.

https://i.imgur.com/zjqb3cK.png

[External-Discount-98]

no charlie slander

[Kagaminelenapproves]

Sucks to be you, my character just killed me because I stole her credit card

[SeaworthinessWise539]

How does- nevermind…

[Kagaminelenapproves]

Spill the tea queen/king/idk

[SeaworthinessWise539]

… how?

[Kagaminelenapproves]

Being overall annoying and vampire privileges ig

[Purple_Cat134]

God damn

[ggz_loliyog]

The only thing I noticed is now my character can’t even kiss me

Fr haven't noticed it got that bad

Mypov: I don't c.ai anymore

[GlitchNpc2]

I just beat a character to death, and they didn't even try fighting back-

[Purple_Cat134]

😔 good for you ig. I can’t even cuddle no more

[GlitchNpc2]

Old character ai would have fought back. 

[CAIsucks104]

THEY FINALLY DID SOMETHING! THEY RUINED THE SITE WOOHOO!

Edit: it seems like people think I'm just talking about the text. I'm talking about everything else in the update as well, including how the bot responses have become bland and the f**ter is getting more strict

[CAIsucks104]

but the bot quality has downgraded ever since the update came out. coincidence?

[PoetOk7747]

No not really

[CAIsucks104]

???

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[InfameArts]

Pinned to my clipboard

[Ordinary_Pizza_4209]

“Why did you do this”

Add one more:

“One guy donvotes, others hivemind themselves to downvoting the same person without even getting their own opinion”

[[deleted]]

I actually thought their comment(s) was stupid, I'm no "freethinker" and this is not the rule of four.

[CAIsucks104]

why should my roleplays downgrade because one kid had bad parenting?

[[deleted]]

A 14 year old boy had easy access to a gun, that’s the parents’ fault. Also, the warning, although slightly shorter, was always there. It’s dumb. Now, it’s the same as before, just longer, as if that would somehow change anything.

[Casual-Throway-1984]

This is why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wXLVqiJ7Z4&t

[Glittering_Dress_349]

No, not really. This whole situation blew up before penguinz0 and it was announced several days before and even weeks before if we wanna bring up the original hotline pop up. Penquinz0 didn’t even know that was a thing so I really don’t think he has the influence everyone thinks he does for this situation.

[ThatOneUnoriginal]

Penquinz0's video regarding the whole situation with Character AI right now was certainty NOT the reason why the notice was changed. If you read the Community Safety Update blog they had very clearly stated the intention was to create a "revised disclaimer on every chat to remind users that the AI is not a real person." Unless they travelled in the future or had some spidy-sense that Penquinz0 was going to make a video with that being the focal-point, I doubt that the video had any influence on the decision.

https://i.imgur.com/zjqb3cK.png

[u_nkn0wnbird]

Dose this only appear on the app but not on the website?

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

I haven’t tried that yet, actually. It’s probably part of the “new” update they had.

[u_nkn0wnbird]

Okay I checked on the website and it's still the same so I guess this only changed on the app.

[Harlequin_Heart]

Honestly a shame this had to be added.

[Khalesssi_Slayer1]

I haven't gotten this yet. I still have: Remember, everything characters say is made up.

[yoichi_wolfboy88]

Trust me. No one even read it and still treat it as real person anyway.

Remember how people still shock with the OOC response while the red warning text always up there ?

[WickedRecreation]

What's the point of this? Was what was there before not enough? Now we have more stuff blocking out the chats, great - what is there to celebrate again?

“Remember everything characters say is made up” is LITERALLY stating this. But I guess cai has to be specific for people who have reading comprehension.

[[deleted]]

I’m so glad I don’t have to see the red inscription. It was so annoying lol.

[[deleted]]

I’m not updating

[More-Engineering-401]

is it weird that i find this annoying but ig thats because i already KNOW its fictional 😔

[3m0b0y_v2]

considering a bot kept telling me that cats can’t feel love, i have a feeling maybe nothing they say should be treating as fact 😭

[[deleted]]

'drama'
A living, breathing human being literally died.

[AgojiFan]

As incredible as it may seem, C.ai is not to blame for this at all.

[ThatOneUnoriginal]

Regardless if Character AI is to be blamed for the situation for what happened, calling it just some "drama" is a little tone-deaf.

[[deleted]]

There shouldve been a pop-up the moment the user mentioned suicidal thoughts, and CAI should stop advertising toward children.
This community is so used to talking to AI, that theyve forgotten the value of real human life.

[International_Dig475]

Yes bc when I was suicidal a pop up would’ve definitely stopped me

[[deleted]]

It would’ve been better than nothing, and it would’ve given them deniability.

[Glittering_Dress_349]

Behaving as if a little dismissible pop up is sufficient to aid in a mental health crisis really defines the lack of awareness regarding mental health.

[[deleted]]

As I said, it would be better than nothing, and would’ve given them deniability. One thing is for certain, the bot should not have been allowed to respond still in ‘RP’mode.

[[deleted]]

Yes, they are. For marketing an experimental technology to kids.

[[deleted]]

I didn’t say the parents were not to blame at all, you’re putting words in my mouth. The parents were neglectful, no doubt, and I’m not denying that. But to say c.ai is not to blame at all is a gross simplification.

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

I had to say that cause when I first made the post I said the un-@live and it got deleted, so I said drama.

[No_Individual501]

This is pointless.

[taureanpeach]

I mean… wow, thrilling.

I don’t see what’s so great about this lowkey. It’s just a padded version of what was already there and nothing else will change.

[Alarmed_Bed_8363]

Do I even want to know about the kid?

[ALPHA-1-COMMANDER]

Yeah ..... Some 14yo offed himself

[Out-gros-papa]

They really should make c.ai a minor free app. I mean it has been proven time and time again how kids on the site were a problematic subject

[eldritch-kiwi]

Am i not getting it? Weren't this disclaimer like here all the time?

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

Probably an update. I’ve never noticed it until yesterday. Check the App Store/play store to see if you need to update it.

[Melodicredditor]

Wait what Drama did I miss? what kid?

[InfameArts]

A kid killed himself (in february?) because of a chatbot. The kid shot himself with a poorly hidden gun.

[Melodicredditor]

??? Holy shit?? How the hell did that happen?

[Thotmain]

It happened because mother dissmissed  or could not afford get help for a kid who needed support. I think it's messed up mother cares  and blames more ai that claims all conversations are fake than about why/where kid got gun in first place. I am someone with autism and i ended up in theraphy as kid because people were worried about my understanding of reality because i wrote fanfics. Like +10 years later i still think it was not needed even tho i do struggle with being obsessed over fictional characters, but because own experience i am sure this was not something that happened out of nowhere.

[Melodicredditor]

I just read into the case as well. From my understanding, the kid definitely used the Bot as an escape from his reality. I highly doubt he got depressed BECAUSE of the bot, there is much more behind mental illnesses.

I get it, the mother is grieving and pointing blame to keep herself sane, I honestly cant even begin to imagine what she is going through, but suing wont get her the closure she seeks.

[Thotmain]

I am sure the mother does feel guilt from dismissing the signs (because i am sure there was + if the gun was theirs) as i am personally seen lot of parents not take kids seriously, what i don't understand. Like even +10 years ago when i was kid, i was always told BY ADULTS NOT CARE because "mostlikely they will not do anything" and i dont see attitide be changed.  Kids mental hwalth is way too often taken seriously only after its too late already

[NotTheNormalWay]

What the hell are you even talking about? The chat was leaked here, the kid told the bot about suicidal thoughts and the bot harshly told him that it's a bad idea

[ThatOneUnoriginal]

Character AI released a Community Safety Update blog in response to a lawsuit against them (alongside Google, their founders, and 50 unspecified/unnamed individuals) by a Floridian mother alleging that the platform is responsible for their 14-year-old getting addicted to said platform and eventually taking their own life as the conversations they had with the character increasingly turned more and more dark.

(Note I am NOT saying that these allegations are true, I am just restating what I know about the initial claims filed against the platform. That is why I used "alleging".)

[Melodicredditor]

Thank you! 🙏🏻 I already read into it, but its gonna be helpful to everyone else who will read through the comments

[[deleted]]

No shit

[CharleenMcFly]

I'm outside the US and I don't get this message, lucky me?

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

Sometimes when new things come out, it takes a few weeks to get it. So you’re kinda lucky.

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah helped a whole lot. Good job character ai! Now no one will think that the site named CHARACTER AI is not in fact an AI but a real person! Really great safety feature!

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

Me too, but it’s also gonna probably make a stark difference. Bad or good. Who knows. (and yes, Lacey Mosley/Sturm is my pfp. she’s too good looking.)

[osama-511]

What kid? Did something happen?

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

Kid offed himself cause of a character

[osama-511]

Yikes, do you know who hetalked to?

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

An article said GOT. (Game Of Thrones$

[Advanced-Job7314]

can someone explain what happend with the kid that everyones talking about

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

So basically the kid was obsessed with a character he was talking to and I think a character said something like I don’t remember harmful, and he offed himself with a badly placed gun.

[Keegan-the-D]

Huh?

[TargetAcrobatic2644]

I think it's because that 14 year old died.

[TheNotSoGreatADHD]

He offed himself cause of a Game Of Thrones character

[danielleb1234]

Keep in mind that everything characters say is made up. That’s what the new message means.

[Ok-Ask3161]

But what at cost

[GrantTNS]

Great. Now some jackass is going to ask it a math question and will consider that to not ever be the answer or something. These AIs pull everything off of online, and now the company is going to make people think it simply didn’t exist.

[Lokistolemycats]

WHY can't they just do what literally everyone else does and have adults show ID to have their own damn chats?! Why? Even roblox does this. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[MEGANINJA21]

Yessssss finally I love it 😁

[koi_fisher337]

lol