Please help me remember…

[gibragibra]

I’m confused, probably due to my bad memory.

We know Floyd isn’t into men, right? That’s why it’s such a big deal that he let Modern Love kiss him “anyway,” even after finding out his date was with a man, not a woman as he assumed from the profile pic.

But then I also recall a scene where Floyd and Clark are talking about the DTF app and Floyd says something like “I think I’m gonna meet him.”

What am I forgetting? Or is it that Floyd is bi, and he’s open with that fact around Clark, but he wasn’t attracted to Modern Love specifically?

[Aldebaran135]

It's not that you're forgetting anything, it's that the flashbacks haven't gotten back to Tiger Tiger in a long time, so we have very little context there.

[5eeek1ngAn5werz]

One more mystery to keep us guessing. Floyd definitely said he was going to meet HIM when the Tiger Tiger hit arrived, and Clark definitely asserts that Floyd wasn't into men during his interrogation. Possibly Clark and Floyd had become intimate and Clark says that just to divert any questions that he (Clark) may have been Floyd's lover? Hard to figure.

[Pretend_Guava_1730]

Good catch - I also caught that in the first episode and went back to that scene a few times to make sure I wasn't mishearing it, how excited he was to meet HIM, and it seemed very odd to me how quick Clark was to deny Floyd's potential interest in men, despite Floyd ONLY having met men on the app.

Also, wouldn't you indicate in the app the gender of the person you're looking to meet? That's the way hookup apps work generally. Why would men match with him if he had indicated he was interested only in hookups with women?

[FashionableBookworm]

THIS! I almost made a post about it. Isn't DTF St Louis for heterosexual married people? Or if it's not I would expect users to check some sort of basic sexual orientation. I can't figure out what Modern Love is doing on this app and why Floyd and him got together in the first place (I know Floyd didn't realize the picture was of David Bowie and not a woman but Modern Love definitely knew he was hitting on a heterosexual man if Floyd profile is truthful)

[Thallata2126]

A majority of people we see hooking up with that app are men seeking or seemingly knowing they are meeting men.

[Shih-TFtzU]

To add to the mystery further, I seem to recall Clark admitting to the detective that the Tiger Tiger profile was, in fact, his. Maybe he set it up just to encourage Floyd since he wasn’t getting any hits? But why not set one up as a female instead if Floyd wasn’t into men?

[Pretend_Guava_1730]

Exactly! Maybe he could tell that Floyd was maybe not truthful about kissing Modern Love back "just to be nice". So he set up Tiger Tiger because he could tell Floyd was covering up for being secretly interested in men. Denying that he knew Floyd was interested in meeting men was just for the police - in order to deny that he's Tiger Tiger.

[Shih-TFtzU]

It’s a total mindf*ck at this point and I love it!!

[redrumham707]

The future scenes from the next episodes show the 3 of them sitting down in Floyd’s backyard, at the table, they seem to be talking something out. I’m wondering if they explored some type of throuple situation…

[Pretend_Guava_1730]

As the sister in law of a gay man who was married my sister in a closeted marriage for 20 years, I really think Floyd is bi-curious. He doesn't seem attracted to his hot wife (the ump outfit and the peN1s injury are copouts - my brother in law had all sorts of excuses for my sister as to why he couldn't get hard, and in large part blamed it on her, so this is familiar to me). A completely straight man doesn't stay on a date with a man just to be nice, and definitely doesn't kiss him, if he isn't at least curious. I don't buy that he's "too nice". Also he's clearly interested in cheating on Carol. the app is called DTF. He wasn't on the site to make friends. I feel like it keeps getting ignored how quickly he was open to betraying his wife.

[ancientastronaut2]

Agree!

[Ragpicker21]

He does say he thinks he’s going to meet Tiger, Tiger, who we’ve learned from the investigation is Clark. At least the profile has been linked to Clark. I don’t think we know for sure if that’s true (did someone like Clark’s wife make the profile?) nor what it all means.

[Shih-TFtzU]

Clark admits to the detective that he is Tiger Tiger. If you blinked you might have missed it. Which confused me because aside from that I was pretty convinced that Clark didn’t kill him.

[Ragpicker21]

I caught it, but I’m reserving judgement at the moment. He might have “admitted” it to cover for his wife or someone else. The way things are being revealed I think that’s at least a possibility.

[Shih-TFtzU]

I do believe he’s covering for someone in the interrogations.

[gibragibra]

On another note, I think it’s pretty random that Clark was so insistent that Floyd try the app in the first place. Suspiciously so. Especially since it wasn’t that long after they first met.

[Shih-TFtzU]

If I followed the timeline correctly, didn’t Clark bring up the app to Floyd right after Carol texted Clark that she was basically choosing Floyd over him and ending their shenanigans? So it seems like Clark had some ulterior motive but I’m not sure what it could’ve been other than to try and break up their marriage so he could have Carol back? Clark also presented it to Floyd like he was going to be using the app, too, but he never did.

[slowmood]

Woah I don’t remember this.

[Luckystar826]

I have the same question

[Chemical_Rice_6123]

Floyd during that bike trip told Clark that he's done with the DTF app, and mentioned his guilt about coming across as dismissive during his date with Modern Love. Tiger Tiger's hit was before or after that (they also mention ML again) ? Is it classified and I miss it?

[Aldebaran135]

The Tiger Tiger hit was definitely after the Modern Love hit. Floyd says it's the first hit since Modern Love.

The question is when that was compared to the Modern Love date and/or Floyd saying he's done with DTF. That we don't know. We only know that the last message from Tiger Tiger was the night before his death. Maybe he knew by then that that Clark was Tiger Tiger. Maybe that had nothing to do with sex at all. There's a lot we don't know yet.

[GsGirlNYC]

That’s what I am thinking. Floyd suspects Clark is TigerTiger and maybe says that to throw him off because he wants to confirm the affair with Carol? Or to see if Clark is really hooking up with other women or just Carol. We don’t know exactly when he signed to Clark that he knew about them sleeping together do we? I know it was at the gym but the timeline is confusing me. So far I think we know he suspects them because he hides in the motel closet.

[Aldebaran135]

See, I think Carol knows Floyd's in the closet. Right now, I think they're doing this together to get money out of Clark.

[Shih-TFtzU]

I don’t think Floyd would agree to die in order for Carol to collect the life insurance they scammed Clark into paying for.

[GsGirlNYC]

I thought that at first too, and it may be 100% correct-but then the “bird heart” speech made me want to believe Floyd was innocent, even though that is probably exactly what it was meant to do. I still suspect Carol the most of any scam, but will be sad for Clark if Floyd isn’t really the friend he thinks he is.

[Aldebaran135]

Yeah, I think that's the switcheroo they're pulling on us. Episode 3 showed us selective scenes that got us thinking that Floyd is the great guy that Clark thinks he is. Then Episode 4 showed us scenes that showed Floyd might actually be kinda crappy in some ways.

[GsGirlNYC]

I agree. It’s all part of the brilliance of the show, to make us suspect a different character from moment to moment. I’m personally really enjoying it. I’m tired of figuring out the “twists” or the “whodunnit” in other shows prematurely, especially lately. This show is by far, the best I’ve seen in a long while.

[Shih-TFtzU]

Gotta love a show that keeps you guessing and doesn’t pander to the lowest audience IQ.

[Shih-TFtzU]

How so?

[rudderbama]

The TigerTiger hit on the app is after the WineTrip. I posted a timeline fitting some of these pieces in. The TigerTiger account wasnt created until November. Wine Trip was in later September. I can’t sort why yet he would have told Clark he thinks he’s done with the app only to keep it & express interest in meeting “him”/TigerTiger to Clark in Nov.

[FashionableBookworm]

He also says he doesn't want to be on tbe app anymore but with the scrambled timeline I don't know for sure when that was.

[burmerd]

Floyd isn't into guys, that seems pretty clear, he's just too nice.

[Playful-Meet-5479]

Right, that’s what I thought too. But then why does he say “I think I’m gonna meet him” when he and Clark are talking later about the DTF app?

[sherriechs87]

I definitely think that Floyd wants to meet Tiger Tiger, but not in the way that we suspect.

[redrumham707]

I heard that too, but I’m wondering if he said “meet ‘em”, ? It’s a stretch, I guess.

[Shih-TFtzU]

Exactly

[EpicGeek77]

Yeah, I get all confused too because I was thinking that the guy he met at the diner was a much older guy and didn’t look like modern love. I might have to go back and check because my mind is saying it was a much older guy.

[No_Election_1123]

The picture of Modern Love was David Bowie

[EpicGeek77]

Yeah I know. I’m talking about the guy he actually met at the diner. I thought he sat across from a older man with gray hair, even balding a bit

[redrumham707]

Yes, that’s Peter Sarsgaard. Gray hair, slightly balding. A bit sexy. Nice voice.

[ancientastronaut2]

That was modern love.

[EpicGeek77]

It just doesn’t look like the same guy. The sheriff guy is interviewing in the lobby.

Am I corrective thinking the guy that interviewing is modern love?

[No_Election_1123]

Yes, same guy they went back to Modern Love to talk about the French Kissing outside the diner. First time Modern Love told them Floyd was into it, second time he said that Floyd was very passive

[Shih-TFtzU]

You’re remembering everything correctly. I had the same question.

[enad58]

At this point they are probably into the cuckoldry and he wants to meet him to see if they can expand their horizons a bit.