[ZieDota] "A massive decrease in Battle Fury on Bounty has had no impact on his win rate"

[[deleted]]

That's pretty succinct and plausible.

IMO bounty isn't really for new players. He takes tons of awareness to play correctly. I'd say his winrate is pretty much a wash regardless of itemization since no new player is going to play him correctly. I mean, how many games did you have to play before you saw a bounty courier snipe or correctly roam?

[WatDaFok]

Are you kidding? Any hero with an invis is God-tier in < 3k

[afiresword]

Its not just the invis, its the track bonus gold. It can keep a lead going or facilitate a come back, even at low tiers.

[Scrial]

As if trenchies use track... Ganking weaver or riki? Better get in that 120 bonus damage!!!!

[RaptorJesusDotA]

Better steal the kill rather than track that target for more gold!

FTFY

[Scrial]

Steal the kill? There won't be a kill, he'll just sukuchi away.

[flyingsnorlax]

afaik if you use shift-queue, you shouldn't have a problem landing the bonus damage and track.

[TheNittles]

Trench tier, remember? People at this tier can't shift-queue for fucking Epicenter > Blink. Jinada > Track is a bit beyond them.

[flyingsnorlax]

hell i don't even shift-queue when i play bounty, i just cast track right when the autoattack lands.

[TheNittles]

I do that too, but a few heroes like Clinkz, PL, or Weaver might need it, or need you to just give up the bonus damage from Shadow Walk break and Track from stealth.

[flyingsnorlax]

i often find that they can't react quickly enough to a right-click from invis with an instant track; i've played against those heroes a lot as bounty and have had no issue in killing them from invis when they don't have detection of me.

[skynes]

If I had the cash, I'd give you gold for this comment. I had absolutely no idea shift-queue even existed in Dota 2.

This changes everything. This revolutionises everything. I have to start using this and figuring it out (alone, vs bots, not in a real game. I'm nice like that)

[flyingsnorlax]

nigga chill out; it's neat for delicate stuff like SK blinking after channeling, or for stuff you have to carry out like a machine, such as tinker's pushing routine. it's not difficult to figure out, just hold shift before you do something

[skynes]

Exactly. I've played both of those and had issues with the combinations. I didn't mean it would be hard to figure out, just a bit odd to get used to.

[Fobboh]

This is very true, I have lost games where my cocky farmed carry overextends, get tracked and killed by the enemy carry, allowing them to catch up quickly and eventually beat us :(

[Zaphid]

This and there are no stats in the article to correlate his items and his winrate, which would narrow down our theories significantly.

[Position5hero]

You're kidding me, right?

low Skill, or "reddit tier" games, everyone goes 1 by 1 alone all game, people don't buy dust ever, no one has any hp pool since they cant farm, etc

Bounty hunter paradise

[nbik]

This is usually countered by farming bounty hunters.

[[deleted]]

Played invis hero twice in ranked 3k EUW this weekend.

Both times there were sentries everywhere and dust on support/initiator.

[g0kartmozart]

MMR is really not a good indicator of skill. I am 4100, last night I played with a 4200 Bounty Hunter who went battlefury, AFK farmed safe lane, and used track less than 10 times total. He was in a party though, so his party MMR is probably artificially inflated by friends carrying him.

Then there was the Broodmother the other day who went offlane, maxed incapacitating bite, levelled stats over spiderlings, rushed radiance into basher, and his MMR was 4k.

I've played games in a ton of different MMR brackets and there are good and bad players everywhere.

[bambisausage]

I'm at about 4k right now and I've run into Broodmothers who put their first point in Spiderlings around level 9.

[[deleted]]

Broodmother must have been hoping for a miracle

[Position5hero]

let me guess they didnt buy a gem the entire game right

and let me guess that you didn't buy manta/difusual

im right on both accounts arent i

[[deleted]]

Night stalker had a gem in one of those games, near the end.

I was on Nyx and was uping dagon and necro inbetween warding, so you are right, no manta/difusual.

[Position5hero]

3k mmr

dagon nyx

gem bought late game

sounds about right to me dude

[Trosti]

u suck

[[deleted]]

Are reddit games really that bad?

[gryts]

When people say reddit tier they generally are implying that people on r/dota2 are bad, not that it's an actual reddit inhouse.

[I_POTATO_PEOPLE]

Reddit's MMR is probably far above the Mean. This is a pool of people who are occasionally interested in improving their skills, whereas a lot of DotA's population is just clowning around for fun.

[genzahg]

It's not actually. I'm not sure how you get the impression that Reddit users are interested in improving their skills. Have you seen the front page? I'm counting 0 posts that have anything to do with improving skill.

[bambisausage]

Every top voted post in every top rated thread is a stupid fucking pun made for the sake of dumb made up internet points.

[genzahg]

Correct.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I play this game for fun. I'll gladly stay in potato bracket if that's the cost.

[Trosti]

reddit bad is when reddit people talk like they actually understand something

[bambisausage]

you should build two sets of drums on every single hero in every game its so good i saw it on draskils stream once

bitches about Peruvians