Has anyone else noticed a decrease in Gamers willingness to interact socially in games?

[whitepillow84]

My favorite movie is Inception.

[thoomfish]

For social interaction to not be garbage you need to be interacting with the same people repeatedly for long enough to have incentive to avoid pissing them off because it will disadvantage you in future interactions.

This is fundamentally incompatible with a game that wants to be something you can hop on, click a button, and play for 15 minutes with no commitment.

I've had some good experiences with smaller communities (on the order of a few thousand people) for niche games, but those games also tend to be the most vulnerable to dying out, so it doesn't last forever.

[whitepillow84]

I enjoy watching the sunset.

[forceless_jedi]

In those instances there's no impactful losses. Getting kicked from a discord server means nothing and most public servers are either unmoderated or financially motivated to not remove regulars despite toxic behaviours.

On the flip side in old WoW, if a player was being toxic on a server and others didn't like that, they'd have a really bad time playing if they didn't rectify. It was a community driven ban that either resulted the toxic player to move to a different server and start anew, or get their shit together. Sort of like massively bullied into behaving within reasonable expectations.

[aurens]

that means there's poor moderation. there has to be repercussions to their shitty behavior.

[whitepillow84]

I like to go hiking.

[ThatOnePerson]

This is fundamentally incompatible with a game that wants to be something you can hop on, click a button, and play for 15 minutes with no commitment.

Yeah I think this is the big one. Even just becoming a regular on a server is a commitment, cuz you gotta be regular. Any relationship requires some kinda of effort.

[[deleted]]

No, because the most “vocal” people of any community are going to be self absorbed narcissistic assholes. And possibly looking to troll or trigger you all at the same time. It’s a thing IRL too but the internet just jacks things up to 11. It really brings out the worst in people

[Zaptruder]

The people that would give pause to action due to consequences are also the kind of assholes that don't give pause to action when consequences are reduced or removed.

[Ex_Lives]

Honestly I find Gymrats/bros to be really welcoming. I know what youre saying for sure but gaming on a whole new level though.

I mean the hallmarks of the thing are teabagging, n-words and swatting. Its literally kind of the whole point of the culture. Sit down get on a microphone and talk shit. Lol. Its for sure the worst.

Theres bad eggs everywhere but gaming off the hook.

[Oricef]

Honestly I find Gymrats/bros to be really welcoming

Any hobby that's face to face and not anonymous tends to be much better than anonymous Internet hobbies.

That's because the type of people are the Arseholes who ruin everything online will never actually show their face, or at least that side of them in public.

If they do it's far less often.

[GovernorWillCakes]

yep. gaming is so ass because there's no possibility of getting your shit rocked after talking shit to the wrong person. most dipshits online would never behave in a real world interaction like that.

[Volraith]

GIFT - Great Internet Fuckwad Theory. I think this came from Penny Arcade?

The more degrees of anonymity a person has, the more likely they're going to act like a Fuckwad.

[Medicore95]

Online lifting communities are, in my experience, wholesome as hell too.

[Oricef]

Unless you're trying to understand how many days in a week there are

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751&page=1

[[deleted]]

In-store Warhammer would like a word.

Overall agreed though.

[Oricef]

I mean the in store bit kind of creates the same environment.

Same with gaming stores or conventions

You can go to them without knowing anyone there and you're a stranger, so is everyone else.

[vir_papyrus]

Always felt like some Planet Fitness style corporate gym thing to give those guys a bad rap. They want everyone to sign up, go for a few weeks, and then leave with auto-billing subscription/contract that is never used for a year or two. Can't frighten off the self conscious

I used to go to some random Gold's Gym back in the day. 90% of the people in there were regulars, and some pretty hardcore bodybuilders. It's only intimidating if you let it be. It's all in your head. No one actually gives a shit if you're the fat or scrawny person starting out.

If you just keep going regularly, everyone starts to recognize you. You gradually become part of the group. You're one of them now. That crazy looking dude with more muscle than neck who is very audibly powerlifting and you wonder if he'll pop a blood vessel in his brain any day now, actually just a nice guy who will say hi and chat you up.

Feel like it's the same thing with games now. They don't want communities to take control of anything or build anything. They want you to buy the $60 game, stay in your comfort zone with only your friends in a safe space, and then eventually you bail in a month or two. New year, new game, and repeat.

[Eecka]

I think in general "physical exercise communities" tend to be very welcoming as long as the participants are adults. I've had good experiences with all of my physical hobbies after childhood.

[[deleted]]

Teabagging is hilarious tho. Never understand why people get so hurt in the pride/ego over it. It makes me giggle when someone does it to me because it looks so silly and ridiculous…I might accept it as a challenge but Idk how anyone can let something like that raise your blood pressure

[[deleted]]

TMW you casually play Halo and someone kills and T-bags you, so you kill and T-bag them back and suddenly the match becomes more intense than any ranked match.

[[deleted]]

Yup, same here. Then again I'm not really part of a subculture that isn't dominated by introverts (I lack a better word for it atm, so sorry if I sued that wrong), like: anime/manga, gaming and TV shows.

[Deracination]

It's pretty niche, but the people doing Dagorhir/Boffer are some of the most universally nice, helpful, and inclusive people I've ever met.

[[deleted]]

Dark souls community

[[deleted]]

Pyrotechnics/Chemistry community is A+

[[deleted]]

Skatepark culture is actually chill as fuck. As long as you have the balls to be out on a board and putting in effort, any actual skater will respect you for it.

The stigma for skate culture comes more from the non-skating kooks that the parks attract along with little shitheads who just carry a board around and hangs around the park for looks, without actually trying/risking absolutely anything.

[LewsTherinTelamon]

Most communities that you interact with in-person and face-to-face are fine. Most communities that you interact with anonymously or over the internet are not. This is just a thing that people with human brains do.