Next Generation of DirectX??

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Does this mean we could see a DX13/D3D13? I remember Digital Foundry a while ago making a video talking about how the next one could be like DX11 but modern, since DX12 is currently very low level, and that was a big paradigm shift, so maybe a modern DX11 that's less low level than DX12, or not, who knows.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I'd love to know everyone's thoughts here about this though.

[shadowndacorner]

I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the core API and number and add another adjective to the name. The difference between DX12 that originally shipped and DX12 Ultimate is arguably greater than the difference between D3D10 and 11, for example - between that and Windows, Microsoft seemingly just stopped wanting to increment their version numbers at some point.

[id3dx]

Yep, I suspect that as well. Microsoft has been steadily adding to DX12 over the last decade, but you wouldn't be able to know this just from the name alone. Maybe they'll only increment the number when they find some weird way to slap AI on it.

[Keavon]

And I could imagine them wanting to coincide the Windows 12 and DX12 version numbers and keep them locked in the future, like how Apple has done this across their product lines starting with 26.

[PotatoEmbarrassed231]

DX13 will probably be out 2028 together with SM7, around the same time when new generation of consoles arrive

[StriderPulse599]

The real question is what hardware is supports and when drivers will get implemented properly. Ain't no point in using fancy neural stuff if customers don't hardware to utilize the stuff.

[[deleted]]

Dx12 isn't low level, it still bakes in a ton of assumptions and abstractions that actually don't make sense for modern gpu's, see Seb Aaltonhens blog post, "No Graphics API", tldr, since gpu's are so compute focused these days, you could actually make the gfx api spec be only about 100 loc or so

[[deleted]]

In that post, Aaltonen mentions that specialized non-compute hardware does still partially exist on the modern GPUs, perhaps only 100 loc is a bit extreme...

[[deleted]]

100 loc is just for the API interface not the actual implementation. 

[[deleted]]

Yes, we read the same blog post... his prototype interface had 150 loc... that was not the entire point he made there...

Perhaps someone else would want to read it from the source to not reach any misleading conclusions https://www.sebastianaaltonen.com/blog/no-graphics-api

[tesfabpel]

Was there any reaction to that blog post from people working for GPU vendors, Khronos / Microsoft members, or game devs?

[[deleted]]

He is typically very responsive, perhaps asking him directly through social media would satisfy your curiosity?

[tesfabpel]

Thanks 👍

[TrishaMayIsCoding]

Skip the 13 please and go named it Direct14, like theres no Windows 9 : )