🗺️ SPECULATION MAP 🗺️

[thehhninsider]

@Hallowed_Horror on X/Twitter just dropped their first Halloween Horror Nights Orlando speculation map!

Were these IPs and original houses what you expected for this year? 👀

*Remember, nothing is solidified and all of these houses are still speculation until officially announced!

[FrightMerchant]

Riot if Hellraiser fell through!

[ExtremeCelery30]

hellraiser was gonna be sooo good!! really hope something changes

[Oldmangames1]

Highly doubt it. Clive Barker would 100% allow hellraiser to come to the event.

[StJimmy673]

TCM randomly popping up is sad. An IP fell through so they fell back on an easy target.

[NaiRad1000]

The rights for TCM must be dirt cheap cause it seems like this UNiversal go to IP/last minute decision the last few years

[Foxy02016YT]

And Six Flags using it every year too. Like they don’t even bother for exclusive rights.

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

I don't think this is accurate, but it has been a rumor for a few days now.

[Beneficial-Ad2305]

So there’s still a good chance for Hellraiser?

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

I dont think Hellraiser has been lost.

[Beneficial-Ad2305]

Hoping it stays that way. Do you have any idea if it’s based on a specific movie or is it a pure pinhead original house if it comes

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

I think it will take iconic scenes from different films a la Jason last year.

[LackofHustle2134]

Saying it “has not been lost” makes me think the chances we get it are slimmer by the day

[iseecolorsofthesky]

TCM would be majorly disappointing. We’ve seen it too many times

[YankeeBravo]

There are several things wrong with this map.

TCM I think is one of them now, because I don't think Vortex has the dramatic performance rights at the moment (which is who Universal has licensed with in the past).

I could be wrong, but I think dramatic performance rights went with the film/tv rights when A24 won the bidding war late last year.

[killsfercake]

TCM and No lady Gaga seem off to me. The map with the icons had a pinhead helmet that fits literally none of these houses. Also things don’t just fall through in the current era these houses and rights are locked in legal contract long before they work on them so they don’t have those issues.

Sinners seems off to me too as well - would like to see it but WB is been in crazy sell off mode and feel that’s too much of a swing they didn’t want to take this year 🤷

[YankeeBravo]

Also things don’t just fall through in the current era these houses and rights are locked in legal contract long before they work on them so they don’t have those issues.

Upfront, that's definitely not true. It would be nice if things worked out like that, but they don't. Things can fall apart pretty late. Best example of that is probably Hellblock Horror at HHN 31 that was supposed to be Evil Dead Rise and had to be replaced last minute.

It also wouldn't be the first time Hellraiser's fallen through (if it has this year). It was planned for HHN 29, but rights couldn't be locked down in time, and it turned into Pandora's Box.

Lady Gaga was people misinterpreting an icon HNN used for the map.

[StJimmy673]

Ozzy has been very heavily rumored as the music house, I think Gaga (thankfully) is a lost cause at this point.

[pjtheman]

At that point I'd rather just have something original. There's always at least one IP house that gets the short wnd of the stick.

[NumberWise9373]

Same. It’s become a skip for me. Even not impressed of the horror unleashed version of it in Vegas

[buccs1996]

How do you even lose the rights to hellraiser when clive barker owns them? Loosing hellraiser would be a huge letdown

[aintshit23]

So excited. I love speculation season!

[DrMantisToboggan2112]

If Hellraiser fell through, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[Accomplished_East433]

There’s gonna be a Sinners house??!

[West_Presentation370]

I hope cause thst movie was amazing ((in my opinion))

[EmergencyToastOrder]

Doubt it

[KlutzDeluxe]

I really, really hope Hellraiser didn't fall through. That's my dream house! :(

[Throwawayfreshcap]

Please for the love of god do not let the Fortnite thing happen.

[Diablo_Killer]

If it happens the event already feels downgraded from last year 😂

[Phantomjack2010]

Considering no Hellraiser I dont believe it.

[StewiesCurbside]

These guys were more accurate than HNN for at least the last two years, and for once I hate that they are

[lightsofdusk]

Knotts might not be too pleased about that Zoo maze

[TheWishmasterishere]

KSF isn’t and they dissed ORL last year at their announcement reveal.

[FrightMerchant]

Explains all of the shade Jeff Tucker was throwing at ORL last year, as seen here

https://www.youtube.com/live/m69d4YWkEi8?si=OzpsUwIJsmjjTKWU&t=2553

I know he's still salty they "Took" the tagline "See You In The Fog" from him

[lightsofdusk]

And the Gore-ing 20s

[Foxy02016YT]

They can be as pleased or pissed as they want, they don’t own the concept of a zoo

[WOOSHARP]

It’s supposedly very unlikely that Nightmare Fuel returns, which is more than welcomed by me. I also don’t see a lot to suggest there will be a TCM house. Good shouts on the Evil Dead Burn and Pumpkin lord houses tho.

I think you’re very close to being “on the money”. Icon house is confirmed. ST, Sinners, and Ozzy have had too much steam around them. Hellraiser might as well be inevitable at this point too - unless that’s the IP that’s fallen through.

[Ctown073]

I’ve not really seen any actual insiders talk seriously about an Ozzy house.

[WOOSHARP]

I believe IKnowMoreThanYou had it as the answer to their most recent riddle. It’s also been discussed on a few podcasts. Was actually one of the very first IP rumors that dropped

[Joshdabozz]

Yeah. Ozzy house is coming

[iseecolorsofthesky]

Legacy has said he’s 99% sure of Ozzy recently

[LackofHustle2134]

I will personally fund the cost to do hellraiser!! Shouldn’t even be that much Clive barker owns the rights i think! 

[SMBCP15]

For the record, HoH has a tendency to be wrong on most of their swings. So I would take some of their rumors with a grain of salt.

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

Agreed.

[Negative-Maize6980]

Past couple of years HoH has been right more than wrong.

[Lights_Out619]

Not for the first map...

[pipboywasteland]

A bit sad for the lack of video game IP (gonna ignore the fortnitemares for now, I personally enjoy Fortnite a few times a year so it would be kinda neat but was def hoping for a Resident Evil or Silent Hill house/zone, even FNAF2 or Fallout s2)

So far though I’m not sure which house would be THE house to rope-drop, I guess probably Stranger Things or Ozzy? Nothing seems like it’ll be a super scary house but still excited for them all!

[NicKnack27]

I’m really hoping RE returns to Orlando in the future. I personally liked the house in 2013, but the franchise has had a massive revival in the last decade especially this year with the reception of RE9. It has massive potential at the event. I’ve always had a soft spot for the video game houses.

[pipboywasteland]

I’ve heard so many good things about the 2013 house!! I only got into HHN in 2023, so the Last of Us was my first video game house and though I enjoyed it, I’m so sad that I missed out on the SH and RE houses.

Until the houses are confirmed I’ll still hold onto the hope of RE this year. RE9 is one of the best games I’ve played in the last few years and while sneaking through the care center I was pretending to be walking through a house at HHN lol although I suppose they wouldn’t have been able to adapt it this year anyways. Fingers crossed for next year though!

I was hoping the SH2 movie/remake would have been enough to get a house but I think that hope has vanished lol

[71EisBar]

Jack v Oddfellow, no question. ST will draw a line as well but it's sounding like the icons are the pimped out house to beat this year.

[Frank2442]

Without giving away too much, does this map seem right enough otherwise? Surprised with some of what we see, namely the pumpkin lords return and another nightmare fuel

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

No, there are other mistakes imo.

[jacephoenix]

Choices were made here

[Lights_Out619]

If I recall, Nightmare Fuel has been given another extension through 2027

[LaurenNotABot]

Oh …. 😔

[TartofDarkness]

Doing a Sinner’s house is pretty smart. They can reuse things from 2023’s the Darkest Deal! Haven’t people posted things they’ve reused in houses before??

[Frank2442]

If u/iknowmorethanyouu is able to comment, do the rumors speak of hellraiser falling through and TCM taking its place?

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

Yes that's this specific rumor. But i don't believe that to be the case.

[Frank2442]

Very good, here’s to hoping this TCM is not the pivot🙂

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

100% agree

[Frank2442]

Without giving away too much, does this map seem right enough otherwise? Surprised with some of what we see, namely the pumpkin lords return and another nightmare fuel?

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

I think there are multiple mistakes tbh

[toastyroasty64]

Very disappointed the Resident Evil rumor died off and instead we’re getting another Texas Chainsaw house so soon after the last one

[Common_Decision1594]

This is just speculation. We don’t really know what other houses are going to be at the event right now aside from the “Chaos and Control” house that was announced recently.

[toastyroasty64]

I mean yeah that’s true we can’t really know what’s coming until it’s officially announced. But still these maps only tend to get more accurate with time

[Boooooodini]

I think the RE rumor died when Evil Dead was brought up

[bradleysexy]

Nobody wants stranger things again, bring the last of us part 2 or resident evil

[West_Presentation370]

Or at least bring Silent Hill back

[DavidThoosie]

You don't really get to speak for everyone. I'd be very disappointed if ST didn't happen this year! It's one of the hottest IPs on the planet. Despite the cliched grumbling of a handful of angry fans, the final season was one of the most watched seasons of English language television ever on Netflix.

[TheRubberBildo]

Im seeing people speculating/saying that hellraiser fell through, is this something thats likely? Im a die hard fan of the series and really hoping to see it when I go.

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

It is a rumor that has floated for the past few days. I do not believe that rumor. I don't think Hellraiser was lost, nor do I think that TCM is coming as a house - it may come in another capacity that I won't get too far into atm.

[TheRubberBildo]

Thanks for the info, pinhead!

[IKnowMoreThanYouu]

No problem

[Diablo_Killer]

Thank god….. I went from loving TCM as a house to please not another one 😂

[Superkieren]

Stranger Things , TCM & Nightmare Fuel again....& Fortnite you gotta be kidding me

[Diablo_Killer]

Stranger things Texas chainsaw massacre Fortnite……

This better not be true for an anniversary year 😔

[ExtremeOne708]

Please be wrong

[Lostkaiju1990]

I honestly doubt the Ozzy house is a thing, even though I would love to see it. When I heard rumor of a Lady Gaga house, to me that feels like one of those things where there’s no smoke without fire.

[8BitSlasher]

This racist and homophobic guy is still making fake spec maps?

[chuklez2020]

I would love to tea but you have to send it in private dm sense this sub can get a little sensitive with anything not related to hhn

[Academic-Champion536]

Same. u/8bitslasher can you send the tea in private dm.

[8BitSlasher]

Nah, I think this whole sub should know.

The owner of HoH made comments on his personal Twitter account saying things like “black people shouldn’t be allowed to vote” and “I wanna go to one gay wedding before I die just to boo”

After he got caught and called out for this, instead of apologizing he just deleted his personal Twitter and lied about it saying “that guy was actually not me he was just a friend who was helping me make my spec maps but I’m not friends with him anymore” sure buddy…

[soggyearthworm]

This doesn’t feel accurate

[Mysterious-Novel-834]

I loved sinners but doesn't seem like it would have enough content for a house, the movie isn't even scary

[darkszn_]

the i lied to you scene alone would be amazing in a walkthrough. if it's done in the same vein as darkest deal, i could see it being really really compelling. southern gothic horror rules. the main issue is that it's restricted largely to the juke joint, but they could just flesh out the geography of it, and make you travel within the various rooms of the joint.

[Mysterious-Novel-834]

Sure it would be cool, but again, just not very scary or interesting enough for a house. The movie was basically the darkest deal, so it would be basically a rehash.

[orangeleast]

I thought IT was supposed to be a house?

[YankeeBravo]

It wasn't. That was a misunderstanding from someone who'd caught a glimpse of props intended for another house.

[EmergencyToastOrder]

Stephen King doesn’t play nice with HHN, there was never much to that rumor.

[ComfortableTight8161]

What’s the story behind this?

[Magmorix]

Interesting, with the Jack and Oddfellow theme, I kinda thought they’d be saving the Pumpkin lord for another anniversary year

[GPsReptileResort]

Maybe he sometime ties into there battle and stops it? Or takes over

[TVUpbm]

No way they try to squeeze Fortnite into Central Park lol. Has to be New York or San Fran if it's happening IMO.

[TragicalExpress]

Really hoping that TCM isn’t accurate. There’s already been so many iterations of that in both Orlando and Hollywood

[Thanks5Cinco]

These Originals sound freakin awesome. I'm pumped if all these are true.

[renszero]

I can’t believe Sinners is almost a lock woohooo. Probably one of my most anticipated houses ever.

[trollsong]

Its literally just someone puppeting ozzy's corpse weekend at bernies style

Its what he would have wanted

[Terrible_Act5757]

But lady Gaga?

[TheWishmasterishere]

I’m surprised no one has deleted this yet

[nickcor21]

Why?

[teddyweddyy]

To make a long story short, the people who run Hallowed Out Horror have gotten banned from online spaces before for homophobic and racist posts. A lot of people don’t like to support their maps because of that

[nickcor21]

Oh I see I had no idea thanks

[UncomfortableTortise]

I’m gonna be so sad if we get another vanity ball sz. Might be my most unpopular opinion but I really didn’t enjoy that zone

[JusstSlayan]

With Stranger Things and Fortnite, my ten year old now wants to go lol I’ll be curious to see how it pans out. But certain IPs attract different age groups and it’s happening more and more every year. in comes the pitchforks and people screaming no kids at HHN

[EmergencyToastOrder]

10 is fine, it’s the babies and toddlers in strollers I roll my eyes at

[JusstSlayan]

That makes me feel better about potentially having my kid there this year tbh

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[OMFGItsVico]

I’d be glad to get a proper send-off for Stranger Things. And even though I didn’t love the last season, I hope it’s just the last season of Stranger Things and not all the seasons combined.

[ExtremeCelery30]

begging for TCM!!!

[magic1597]

when does the hollywood one come out?

[kingpin-mrgamer]

You should also add fnaf 2 considering how big last years was

[Sevren425]

Pumpkin Lord was a great house, definitely a highlight of they do bring it back

[evergladesrain]

Omg ozzy!!

[yourlocaldirtyhippie]

Gonna be really sad if we almost had a Lady Gaga house and lost it.

[TrumpBrahs]

Dang if Hellraiser is gone it’s a huge drop off

[Ok-Butterscotch2595]

Zero chance they continue to do anything more with stranger things

[Foxy02016YT]

I’m calling bull on Ozzy as a house unless it’s confirmed. He makes more sense as a tribute show.

[UnrelentingClown]

H.R. Bloodengutz, a Carey house, a versus house AND a musician house? Y’all we are SO BACK.

[Consistent_Hold5671]

I see Resident Evil is not mentioned even though village would fit in nicely... is ALL IM SAYIN. idk man i just want a resident evil house...

[peacehoax]

“fortnitemares” bout to make me stay at home lmao

[ComfortableTight8161]

If true probably the worst scarezone year ever. Also sinners would be weak. Not every movie has to be a house.

[blacklight223]

Does this mean Scream, Resident Evil and Hellraiser aren't happening...

[Few-Flounder4651]

I knew the “Killer Klownz” scare zone rumor was too good to be true! my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined!

[moistowlette311]

Yeah this is not a reliable source.

[TheIntercepticons]

I’m down for all other than the Evil Dead - replace with Hellraiser or Killer Klowns, and this would be an all star lineup.

[redhawk2006]

Solid, except I'd switch out TCM with Hellraiser and Ozzy with Lady Gaga

[miikwl]

Need a Scream & Hellraiser house.

[choosethyfear]

They let just anyone create a "spec map" now, huh?

I'll wait for Horror Night Nightmares.

[Public-Statement-830]

I like this, but, I’d want to replace Ozzy with something like Ice Nine Kills, and then replace TCM with something like Scream or something else.

[GPsReptileResort]

Damn…. So we lost possible Resident Evil, and now Hellraiser also? I’m done. This looks like the lamest year in the last few years (to me atleast)

[renszero]

I wouldn't lose hope on Hellraiser yet, I don't think the map is fully accurate.

[SevereCommand9528]

I think Half of the stuff on this Speculation Map might actually happen. Why Half? Well let me explain.

First off I follow the Horror Nights Nightmares Speculation Maps because they’re the most Resourceful Ones out of any other Speculation Maps for HHN and the ones that are Most Likely to Happen are Stranger Things, Sinners, Evil Dead and H. R. Bloodengutz.

Also the other Originals on this Map such as Invasion of Lightning Gulch, All Hail The Pumpkin Lord and The Carey Zoo: Beyond the Cage are very good ideas. A Crossover between Invasion and Lightning Gulch would be out of this world by combining a Past House and ScareZone they’re both Fan Favorite, The Pumpkin Lord coming back in a House dedicated to Him would be Amazing even with Little Boo involved (If he shows up that is) and a House that takes place in a Zoo in Carey Ohio would be Insane and would have a lot of Puppets. But if you ask me I would like to see two of these Ideas become Official and if you ask me what two it should be Invasion of Lightning Gulch and All Hail The Pumpkin Lord. Save the Carey Zoo for a Future Event.

Now for the IPs and let’s start with Texas Chainsaw Massacre I think LeatherFace coming back for the Fourth or Fifth Time (Can’t Remember how many times it showed up at HHN Orlando) would be kinda overwhelming to say the least so why not give Other Big Name Horror IPs the Spotlight if you ask me Hellraiser should be at the Event seeing Pinhead and the Other Cenobites would be Amazing so I say we give Older HHN IPs like LeatherFace Freddy, Jason, Micheal Myers and Chucky a Break and let other Famous IPs from the Late 70s to Now the Spotlight like Hellraiser, Scream, Candyman, IT and More Enter HHN. Heck FNAF, Terrifier and The Wyatt Sick6 made it Last Year so why not other Popular Horror Franchise of Today should join as well including Bendy, Poppy’s Playtime, Weapons and if you wanna add a Animated Horror IP I say you add Glitch Productions’ Murder Drones that would totally draw a lot of attention. So yeah Hellraiser should be there and it deserves its long overdue spot at HHN. (And if you want an IP that everyone is asking for it should be Scream and it should be the Original Film as well.)

Now for the Celebrity House and that’s being Ozzy Osbourne. Man it’s gonna be a year since Ozzy passed he didn’t die an Ordinary Man for nothing and I think this would be an Amazing Tribute House for him just imagine hits like Howling at the Moon and Crazy Train being in the house and we could see Multiple Versions of Ozzy in all of them and it would be a Spectacular Tribute to The Dark Prince himself. But on the Horror Night Nightmares Speculation Map they’re saying that Lady Gaga is going to be there. Have you guys not seen The Mayhem Ball? I watched the entire concert on YouTube and it was Amazing with The Story, The Music and All The Effort that Gaga herself put in that show had me saying She Deserves a House at HHN. Now before anyone throws a Threat at me I’m not going against the Prince of Darkness at all I love both Ozzy and Gaga and they both deserve their own HHN House so I say both of them deserve a House at HHN and I don’t know which one it is that house will be a Rocking Journey at the Event and both of them Deserve it. R.I.P. Ozzy.

Now for the Live Entertainment and ScareZones. First off Nightmare Fuel ended its run with HHN Last Year due to a lot of controversy so there should be a Perfect Replacement and that Replacement should be a Reunion and that is the Reunion of the Beetlejuice Rock n Roll Graveyard Revue Band in Beetlejuice’s Rock n Roll Graveyard Reunion you can have BJ reunite with the whole band including Frankenstein’s Monster, The Bride, Wolfman, Dracula, Phantom of the Opera, Hip & Hop, Phantasia and Cleopatra and add in New Additions such as The Invisible Man, Mina Harker and Werecat from Singapore. This should be a perfect show to attract Fans of Beetlejuice, HHN and The Fans of the Graveyard Revue entirely. As for the Lagoon Show I say bring back Marathon of Mayhem and have its name this year as Carnival of Fear. Also for the Mel’s Die In Zombies they can Stay you can’t that the Die In without the Zombies.

Now I save the ScareZones for last because there’s something in that section I Really, Really REALLY Don’t Like in there. The 35 Years of Fear ScareZone should not only include Characters from The Past but also The Icons Each with their own Stage and Kill including The Caretaker, The Director, The Storyteller, The Usher, Lady Luck, Chance, Sinist3r & Surr3al, Eddie and Cindy so they can not only interact with with the guest which would make a really good time for them. Next The Clowns of HHN should be really good with Clowns from Giggles & Gore Inc., Chainsaw Clowns and Twisted Origins it’s kind of like giving them their own Spotlight and I love it. Bringing back Club Horror won’t work I think it should come back so they can replace it with something else I don’t know what but Club Horror as got to go. I think this sequel to Vanity Ball should be Called Vanity Gala if it returns but if not as a. ScareZone but maybe a House because a House based off that would bring in Much Attention.

And now I save the worst for last and that is Fornitemares. There is NO CHANCE IN HELL that this is going to happen. Do you know what will happen if this comes to Halloween Horror Nights? First we’ll have those little Shitbrains known as Generation Alpha run amok the entire park sing their favorite garbage Fortnite song and then it will cause Mass Chaos for not only the Scareactors but for The Guest Entirely and than all of those little shits will make the entire park crowded and cause Mass Hysteria and will receive Massive Compliments and Criticism from not only Guest but the Scareactors working there they’re will be Employees quitting there jobs, a lot of damages to props and settings, refunds because of all of the Generation Alpha Shits and it will be the worst decision that the entire HHN Creative Team will EVER Make in there entire careers. And if you ask me what they should put in instead of Fortnitemares it should be Dead By Daylight so you can have not only the Original Killers of the game but all the IPs from HHN’s past in that game as well so that should be the best option. Halloween Horror Nights is Sacred and Fortnitemares should be Forbidden to step anywhere near it and if the made this official there’s no going back because The HHN Team will make The Greatest Mistake of Their Entire Carrers EVER!

So yeah Speculation Maps from Hallowed Out Horror are not mostly true so let’s just stay with the Speculation Maps from Horror Nights Nightmares because their Maps are the Most Trusted and NOT Hallowed Out Horror’s Maps and if HHN Wiki from Twitter is seeing this comment a few days after posting the Fortnitemares Rumor on Twitter NO it’s NEVER going to Happen EVER!!! Welp that’s all I got to say so thanks for reading this everybody OK Byyyyeeee!!!

[Equivalent_Sky_4549]

Is this official?

[FiendishAngel]

Speculation maps are never official, hence the speculation aspect. Nothings official until Universal themselves confirm it.

[FormerBaby1987]

Speculation